>>1224518neat
https://youtu.be/EZbg5hCRyvs?t=671>>1224559there was some weight weenie stuff in the 1990s that got hectic
like super light alloy frames with fatigue in the chain and seat stays
and titanium handle bars that would snap where they had any scratches
the older sort of bike has triple butted chrome molly tubing with wall thickness too thin to clamp in a bike stand (something like .6 mm at thinnest point)