>>1988127>a few pounds here and there don't matterShaving real weight is about adding up minimal gains across your entire setup.
As soon as you get to a hill on a loaded bike you're strategizing about how to make it lighter because climbing is so difficult.
There's also a hard line where you want to be able to lift your bike over a fence without removing the bags.
>Look at people who went touring back in the 50s, 60s and 70s with heavy steel frames and 5 or 10 speeds.yeah or look at the people who drilled holes in their components, rode 23mm tubs in the mountains, didn't carry water bottles, and declined racks/panniers for lighter bags just as bikepackers do now.
cutting your toothbrush in half isn't a new idea.
Also lighter bicycles and lighter bicycle components are generally higher quality and have other superior qualities also.
Obviously some stuff is worth the weight like wider gearing or high spoke count wheels.