>>1243780Grant used to have some good ideas 20 years ago, but he's gotten too far up his own ass these days, or just plain senile. He brings nothing to the table now, just heavier and heavier frames with as long a wheelbase he can convince his stuffy, old, white fanboys to buy. He doesn't even sell made in usa frames anymore because he's lost his appeal, he can't ask for that premium anymore. Look around the RBW google group, you'll see even his diehard fans are disillusioned that every new model is more and more similar, they have revelations that bicycles can be ridden fast when they try drop bars again. Rivendell has lost its meaning, the bikes used to have some logic, but now they're just aesthetic and rhetoric at as low a price grant will concede.