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having ridden pinned flats with chucks and vans and other shoes
i gotta say that these are by far the best shoes for cycling
leather means they actually mold to your feet, amazing comfort
leather also means that they're water resistant
they've got WAY better grip than most shoes
and the soles are really thin so you're not pedaling on a stack, which fucking sucks.
the only problem is they don't last that long and you might want to take your pins down a bit
chucks and vans both just suck by comparison. Although those shoes do hold up in trad cages & straps better because of the thick soles.