>>1807691If you live in California, your urban/suburban situation is fucked no matter where you live. Your shitty cities are irreparably damaged by decades of poor policy, while the surrounding areas are dense-yet-empty nightmares full of c*lifornians. The rest of the country hates you, often more than they hate Texans. Your antics are our entertainment. Your misery is our schadenfreude. Your spectacle is ridiculous. After India, California is the second place in the world I'm glad I wasn't born in. No matter what happens to my city, it relieves me that I'll still be happier than if I was living in your hellhole of a state. LOL