>>1435076the heavy steel bikes I've seen are old 1970s and 80s Peugeot @ 24 lbs
with the lighter bikes being 23 to 22 lbs total weight
the most modern heavy frame I have is a giant
52 cm frame @ 4.8 lbs of frame' fork and headset bearings
fully decked with mid 1990s parts it comes out at 21 lbs
most of the weight (6.6 lbs) is in the rear wheel and crank set + chain and cassette