>>1471347>steelIs great
>heavy as fuckPic related is 20lbs with Dyno light, racks, leather saddle, and fenders
>ugly in every way. You either look like a hobo or a retro douchebagsheep
>bends into a pretzel every time you hit a bump, forcing you to spend half your life realigning your dropoutsNo, you just didn't tighten it properly. almost all of them have vertical dropouts now anyways
>steel frames with hipster cred are just as expensive as aluminum, if not carbonI like aluminum too
>manufacturing is done by stoners in a garage somewhere borrowing their dad's spotwelderThat's based