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Anonymous Tue 06 Mar 2018 01:32:30 No.1162664 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1163828 >>1164942 >>1165554

Diesel loco thread, starting with a classic.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Mar 2018 03:24:47 No.1162682 Report

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The first mainline diesels in my country are these GE-Alco shovelnoses

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Anonymous Tue 06 Mar 2018 03:43:24 No.1162687 Report

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Whitcomb Bo-Bo Diesel Electic running as No 890 'Tobruk' at Longmoor

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Anonymous Tue 06 Mar 2018 08:19:06 No.1162740 Report

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Anonymous Tue 06 Mar 2018 11:33:48 No.1162766 Report

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Powerful diesel loco from Czechoslovakia, unfortunately only two prototypes has been made, one of them was destroyed in crashtests.
Nicknamed "cyclop" it was capable of reaching speeds up to 180 km/h and would've been used on non-electrified mainline express trains

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Anonymous Tue 06 Mar 2018 11:48:28 No.1162768 Report

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East German-made Shunter

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Anonymous Wed 07 Mar 2018 10:16:08 No.1163104 Report

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>>1162682

Uh, how many bogies/axles there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Mar 2018 14:45:09 No.1163157 Report

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>>1163104
Co-2-Co

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Anonymous Wed 07 Mar 2018 16:06:44 No.1163182 Report

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>>1163157
>3 bogies on one carbody
What the fuck? How does that work?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Mar 2018 17:44:45 No.1163208 Report

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SJ T46, does shunting of iron ore hoppers.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Mar 2018 17:45:49 No.1163209 Report

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>>1163208
It was later rebuilt, moving the driver's cab to the ends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Mar 2018 20:47:12 No.1163270 Report

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>>1163209
Damn i like the funky center cab

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Mar 2018 21:18:36 No.1163276 Report

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Here's my train

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Anonymous Wed 07 Mar 2018 21:20:04 No.1163278 Report

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Anonymous Wed 07 Mar 2018 21:40:37 No.1163286 Report

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>>1163270
I reckon the rebuild is easier to work in, but yeah it's just not as wonderfuly brutal.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Mar 2018 21:57:00 No.1163291 Report

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The T46 may have had some inspiration from the T42, an american model which GM tried to sell to Europe in the 50s. The single demonstration unit ended up in Sweden where it worked until ending up at the railroad museum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8kSKUtRfeQ

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Anonymous Wed 07 Mar 2018 22:01:38 No.1163295 Report

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Most swedish diesels are T44s. They could run in multiples with the lone T42, which was relegated to a supporting role due to its funky cab.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Mar 2018 20:18:11 No.1163636 Report

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Here are some Norwegian locos.

First is the NSB Di 2, used for shunting and light freight trains, but I believe they've all been retired by now, not 100% sure though.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Mar 2018 20:21:27 No.1163638 Report

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>>1163636
Here's the Di 3, based on the EMD F7, it was used all over the network untill major lines were electrified, retired in 2001, apparently four of them are running in Kosovo these days.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Mar 2018 20:24:21 No.1163639 Report

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>>1163638
Here's it's replacement, the Di 4, personally I really like the look of this.

Enteared service in 81, and is currently the only diesel loco running passengers in Norway, runs between Trondheim and Bodo.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Mar 2018 20:30:59 No.1163643 Report

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>>1163639
This is the Di 6, ment to replace the Di 4. First one was delivered in 96 but were sent back to Germany in 99 because they were basically fucked and had major construction flaws. Apparently some rebuilit ones are running in cargo service these days but I'm not 100% sure.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Mar 2018 20:37:34 No.1163647 Report

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>>1163643
And here's a pair of Di 8's, one in the new CargoNet livery and one in the old NSB livery, in service since 97 and still going strong. A few of them were sold to Britain and are used around steelworks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Mar 2018 20:43:57 No.1163652 Report

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>>1163647
Other than that there's basically just a lot of locos that look alot like the Di 8's doing shunting and stuff like that, there used to be some Class 66's running freight but they have been replaced by the Stadler/Vossloh Euro, pic related.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Mar 2018 08:57:53 No.1163827 Report

Quoted By: >>1163884

So far the edgiest locomotive running on the rails here

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Anonymous Fri 09 Mar 2018 09:00:10 No.1163828 Report

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>>1162664
It's smaller, yet better looking (IMHO) brother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Mar 2018 16:03:28 No.1163884 Report

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>>1163827
looks like it came out of some mid-'80s sci-fi dystopia flick; love it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 Mar 2018 22:07:54 No.1164323 Report

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 01:25:40 No.1164387 Report

Quoted By: >>1164561 >>1173763

>>1164323
>diesel train
>running under wires
why can't they just electrify the whole network already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 13:20:53 No.1164546 Report

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>>1163884
Yeah I know right? The locomotive was built locally with caterpillar engine and VOITH transmission
It is owned by the Railway department not the Rail company so it’s only used for pulling inspection trains

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 14:10:17 No.1164561 Report

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>>1164387
>diesel train
>running under wires
Because it can.

Thunderbirds exist for a reason.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 18:56:07 No.1164653 Report

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 18:57:20 No.1164655 Report

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 18:59:01 No.1164656 Report

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 19:04:23 No.1164660 Report

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I won't let this thread die

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 19:06:30 No.1164662 Report

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 19:11:47 No.1164667 Report

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Class 221 Cross Country

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 19:23:10 No.1164674 Report

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Obligatory F40 shitpost

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 19:24:36 No.1164675 Report

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 19:25:53 No.1164676 Report

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 19:27:16 No.1164678 Report

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Class 142 shipped to Canada for trials.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 19:29:21 No.1164679 Report

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Comfy 1980s British Rail

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 19:31:43 No.1164681 Report

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Last post for now, will be back with more 80s BR

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 20:40:22 No.1164690 Report

Quoted By: >>1164796

>>1164678
Sorry, Canada.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 22:07:25 No.1164719 Report

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>>1164656
From what I've heard, these things are laughably underpowered and can't exceed 75 mph

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Mar 2018 23:58:51 No.1164770 Report

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Swiss-built rack diesel locomotive purchased for hauling coal trains
Pic shown in old livery

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 00:26:59 No.1164794 Report

Quoted By: >>1164807

>>1164719
Really!? That is fucking sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 00:28:52 No.1164796 Report

Quoted By: >>1165425

>>1164690
Are these really as bad as I hear. I know it's based off a British Leyland bus which isn't a good start but they seem to be used quite a lot in England. But I'm in thw US so I wouldn't really know.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 00:45:14 No.1164807 Report

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>>1164794
These things are pretty much the same. Good engine but top speed and acceleration are limited in order to meet fuel efficiency standards and EU emissions regulations. Hopefully they'll start running better locos after Brexit.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 02:11:44 No.1164850 Report

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>>1164807
They should bring back the class 37s. One of the best sounding diesel locos

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 02:13:20 No.1164851 Report

Quoted By: >>1165031

You guys have any opinions on the class 158s?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 10:20:40 No.1164942 Report

Quoted By: >>1164992

>>1162664
Op is a cuck, old fashioned cuck fudder

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 14:06:55 No.1164992 Report

Quoted By: >>1165079 >>1173776

>>1164942
Go back to the bikefag threads cuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 14:14:41 No.1164995 Report

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>>1164850
Bashers get out.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 16:31:52 No.1165029 Report

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>>1164850
Yes, please.
Although there are some running push-pull on teh Cumbrian coast and in Norfolk somewhere at the moment.

Captain Slog

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Captain Slog Mon 12 Mar 2018 16:34:00 No.1165031 Report

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>>1164851
Fine as units go, but I always prefer LHCS.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 18:36:08 No.1165079 Report

Quoted By: >>1165081 >>1165420

>>1164992
Any idea why GM was unsuccessful selling diesel in Europe? In general american diesels are very successful in foreign markets even today.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 18:37:14 No.1165081 Report

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>>1165079
Sorry meant for
>>1163291

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 02:04:38 No.1165290 Report

Quoted By: >>1165449

This locomotive had it’s cab rebuilt with bigger windows
Railfans here call it “Lefty” because the rebuild requires the removal of the short hood controls
Three Locomotives receive this rebuild and now they reverted the cabs to original windows

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 09:31:42 No.1165420 Report

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>>1165079
I think the american cab designs weren't really suited for european jobs, they impeded the shunting ability.
Nohab did build a bunch of locos on license, with GM powerplants. And Nohab's models are popular in scandinavia and on the balkans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jeLUyIZQFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BljsYMJL3Ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cku5QexYNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snD1C3T6XvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFIZsF0ofso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl8X2-sesnY

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 09:51:08 No.1165425 Report

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>>1164796
>Are these really as bad as I hear

Yes.

>I know it's based off a British Leyland bus which isn't a good start

No, and then to compound the error the chassis is actually based on a high-speed 2 axle *wagon*. Two axle design means that the body tends to roll around, which is where they got the name "Nodding Donkeys"

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 09:53:38 No.1165427 Report

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>>1165420
I think this illustrates it. GM original to the left, Nohab license to the right. Just tweak the driver's cab for extra vision and it sells.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 11:25:58 No.1165444 Report

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>>1163182
middle one on a sliding mount was common.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 11:27:56 No.1165446 Report

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>>1163182
middle one on a sliding mount was common, reduces dynamic track load compared to all on two bogies when you've got sharp corners. Bo-Bo-Bo is reasonably common in Japan and Italy, NZ has a few too

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 11:31:15 No.1165449 Report

Quoted By: >>1165451 >>1165460

>>1165290
More rebuilt noses, from this

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 11:32:18 No.1165451 Report

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>>1165449
into this

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 11:56:48 No.1165460 Report

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>>1165449
Into this, DC class

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 12:04:31 No.1165463 Report

Quoted By: >>1165551

8 powered axles, 6000 hp, 100 feet long

The mighty emd dda40x.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 16:04:22 No.1165551 Report

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>>1165463
What a damn meme engine. Literally worse than 2 GPs

SD40-2 is the GOAT locomotive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 16:06:44 No.1165554 Report

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>>1162664
Trains are cool. You guys wanna be friends?

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 18:56:35 No.1165617 Report

Quoted By: >>1173949

EMD G16

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 Mar 2018 13:26:45 No.1166698 Report

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SJ Y3, a diesel locomotive with passenger compartment on top.
Built in the late 1960s and decomissioned shortly after, due to overheating and catching fire.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Mar 2018 08:03:17 No.1167700 Report

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>>1163638
Here is some M61/618, which was almost identical to the Co'Co' version of Di3.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Mar 2018 04:41:59 No.1170910 Report

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bumpp

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Anonymous Sun 01 Apr 2018 22:45:37 No.1173067 Report

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The best F-units are double-ended.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Apr 2018 12:02:14 No.1173285 Report

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U20C with streamlined cab

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Apr 2018 18:39:42 No.1173385 Report

Quoted By: >>1173435

>>1165427
Cool, you get a mich improved view of... the hood, and with the addition of being roasted alive in the sun

Fucking Euros

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Apr 2018 18:47:32 No.1173386 Report

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>>1163639
Here is the engine sound, dat sweet thumping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIF65X9Diw

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Apr 2018 21:35:46 No.1173435 Report

Quoted By: >>1173529

>>1173385
>being able to see on both sides from the driving position is bad

pic related: 040 DA / A1AA1A 62000, 106 of those Baldwin DRS detuned to 660 hp were delivered to France (including 6 for Morocco) after WW2. last one retired in the late 90s. A pair of BB 63500 shunters on its side and a main line BB 67000 behind it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Apr 2018 02:45:30 No.1173529 Report

Quoted By: >>1173673

>>1173435
>needing to see everything while switching at yard speed
Let me know when Europe learns about two way radio tech, Safety Sally

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Apr 2018 12:58:50 No.1173673 Report

Quoted By: >>1173737

>>1173529
What the fuck are you on about?

Hood as tall as the cab is a retarded design that only exists because unions wouldn't allow one man operable designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Apr 2018 15:36:56 No.1173737 Report

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>>1173673
Diesels are one-man operable with any hood or body style, idiot

There is literally nothing wrong with high hoods

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Apr 2018 17:57:28 No.1173763 Report

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>>1164387
Virgin West Coast use their Super Voyagers to go to Wales and Shrewsbury where there are no electric wires, so they go under the wire to as far as about Wolverhampton I think

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Anonymous Tue 03 Apr 2018 18:16:50 No.1173770 Report

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>>1164667
Near Small Heath?? some part of Birmingham at least I have seen that mosque

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Anonymous Tue 03 Apr 2018 18:45:17 No.1173776 Report

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>>1164992
The best way to get around is to ride the bike to the train station and then get the train then ride the bike from the station, best way to commute, healthy too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Apr 2018 18:55:11 No.1173778 Report

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>>1164656

Barrow Hill 4eva

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 07:02:49 No.1173949 Report

Quoted By: >>1176794

>>1165617
Neat. We had a couple of G12's operating in my region about 50 years ago. Was told it's a bit small (low ceiling) in the cab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Apr 2018 06:40:33 No.1176584 Report

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Bumpity bumpington

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Anonymous Tue 10 Apr 2018 18:09:35 No.1176794 Report

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>>1173949
Najs. They were somewhat recently retired in Slovenia. Our rail managment is retarded so things are 40 years back in time at the railraod here, but slowly improving. But i did alaways liked older trains so im not botherd.

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