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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 06:08:34 No.1331702 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1331704 >>1331732 >>1331747 >>1331748 >>1331783 >>1331804

Does anyone here suffer from back pain?

I have no idea why it's an issue for me, I've had my bike fit by the best fitter in the country and I'm flexible enough (can do pic related). However if km im cycling for 3 hours I need to stop 4/5 times to get off the bike, stretch and give my back a break because it feels like it's being torn apart by some middle ages torture device

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 06:12:32 No.1331704 Report

Quoted By: >>1331719

>>1331702
Did you try a recumbent yet

It seems you have old man disease

Do you insist on wearing lycra all day even after your ride

Do you drink craft beers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 06:21:36 No.1331711 Report

Quoted By: >>1331718

bike fit isn't a one off process man
subsequent issues need to be identified and addressed specifically, so i'd go back to your fitter

That and/or improve your core strength. That's more important than flexibility. Do planks every day.

Your form may also be off. Don't throw around the bike with your upper body. Don't mash. Don't 'sprint'. Spin a higher cadence and focus on riding smoothly.

You can also simply raise or flip your stem, or even just tilt your bars up a little.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 06:24:19 No.1331713 Report

Quoted By: >>1331718 >>1331734

bars are too low
core is too weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 06:51:31 No.1331718 Report

Quoted By: >>1331734 >>1331747

>>1331711
>>1331713
He addressed my posture during the fit, as he had me rude while recording me with sensors on. He lifted the hoods up which changed my posture dramatically and I should have a decent enough core as I train it 2/3 times a week at the gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 06:53:15 No.1331719 Report

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>>1331704
I don't even commute in my lycra, and I don't drink alcohol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 07:56:15 No.1331732 Report

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>>1331702
How often are you in the gym, working on your core strength?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 07:59:06 No.1331734 Report

Quoted By: >>1331784 >>1331828

>>1331718
What are you actually doing in the gym for core work? Deadlifts? Squats? Overheadpress?

>>1331713
>bars are too low
I actually had a bikefitter tell me that lowering your bars aids in lower back comfort because it removes a lot of pressure. I would agree if we were talking about neck issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 09:44:06 No.1331747 Report

Quoted By: >>1331784

>>1331702
do core exercises and later build on deadllifts and squats to reinforce it. obliques are a must as they reinforce your center of mass, especially around the middle to lower back
>>1331718
>I should have a decent enough core as I train it 2/3 times a week at the gym
weak core, do more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 09:51:54 No.1331748 Report

Quoted By: >>1331784

>>1331702
What kind of frame and what size tires do you ride, and what are the roads you usually ride on like? I did a 60 mile gravel race after putting 28mm tires on my aluminum road bike and my lower back pain after that put me off the bike for 3 days because riding on washboard roads for miles on end beat the shit out of it. On the paved road I can sit on the same bike in the same position for hours on end with no problems.

Also how do you hold your arms, specifically your elbows? Are they completely straight or do they have a slight bend? If they're straight I could see them transmitting a lot of shock to your shoulders/torso over bumps, but I would think your upper back may be suffering from that. But who knows. I am just trying to brainstorm ideas that might help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 11:44:46 No.1331783 Report

Quoted By: >>1331784 >>1331787 >>1331830

>>1331702
Flexibility is not strength. Do a variety of deadlifts, hanging leg raises, and so on. Also other kinds of compound exercises that engage the core. Yes even squats, overhead press, and cleans, just because it's not a "core" exercise doesn't mean your core isn't engaged. Stay off the leg press machine, stay off machines period. Don't use any cheats like straps or "lifting shoes".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 11:48:46 No.1331784 Report

Quoted By: >>1331801

>>1331734
>>1331747
>>1331783

Deadlifts, Squats, ohp, cleans, rows are all part of my routine but I do exclusively target my core after every session.

crunches, Planks, extensions, reverse cable crunches, dragon flags, leg raises, window wipers, boat rows, air bike kicks

>>1331748
I'm 179cm,53 cm felt f5 105mm stem. 28mm tires. Roads are decent, not entirely perfect not constantly poor either.

When I'm climbing I have my hands stiff on the bars about 10cm out from the stem, otherwise I'm on the hoods and I have them bent but I have decent stability still

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 11:50:54 No.1331787 Report

Quoted By: >>1331801

>>1331783
wtf I just do planks and sit ups once or twice a week and have never had back problems

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 12:06:39 No.1331789 Report

Quoted By: >>1331797 >>1331801

Do you consciously use your core muscles during riding? I have to constantly remind myself to do it otherwise I end up just slouching over the bike which causes back pain after a while

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 12:43:16 No.1331797 Report

Quoted By: >>1331799

>>1331789
Can't say I do, I do know what you're talking about though, and I find it difficult to breathe when doing that, don't you have the same issue?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 12:45:35 No.1331799 Report

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>>1331797
Can't say I do, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 12:50:27 No.1331801 Report

Quoted By: >>1331802

>>1331784
>crunches, Planks, extensions, reverse cable crunches, dragon flags, leg raises, window wipers, boat rows, air bike kicks
I hope you only do one of those for each session otherwise I feel bad for your CNS.
All you need is an ab wheel and heavy deads.

>>1331787
How many hours do you ride each time youre out?

>>1331789
Yes, after +4 hours in the saddle you really need to focus on where you have your core. Its like remembering to always activate your abs and push your belly in while walking to not lose posture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 12:54:17 No.1331802 Report

Quoted By: >>1331834

>>1331801
Weekdays I do 1-3 hours on days that aren’t recovery, weekends can be anywhere between 2-6 hours. I never really ride more than 200 km at a time, there’s not much reason for me to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 13:00:48 No.1331804 Report

Quoted By: >>1331810 >>1331812

>>1331702
Probably because you drink too many so'y lattes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 13:14:51 No.1331810 Report

Quoted By: >>1331812

>>1331804
best and most correct answer ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 13:18:17 No.1331812 Report

Quoted By: >>1331813

>>1331804
>>1331810
>that /pol/ invader who wants to destroy /n/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 13:19:36 No.1331813 Report

Quoted By: >>1331843

>>1331812
>that guy who keeps feeding the troll

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 13:27:41 No.1331815 Report

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Maybe it’s not your biking but other things you do during the day. Think about your mattress and your computer chair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 14:21:21 No.1331828 Report

Quoted By: >>1331836

>>1331734
>I actually had a bikefitter tell me that lowering your bars aids in lower back comfort because it removes a lot of pressure. I would agree if we were talking about neck issues.
you don't stand to lose anything by trying it though
raise your bars for one long ride and see if that improves your back pain

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 14:38:38 No.1331830 Report

Quoted By: >>1331833

>>1331783
>lifting shoes are cheating
Nigga what? There's absolutely nothing wrong with using lifting shoes. Much better to have stable platform to stand on than use soft soled shoes like running shoes which you see at the gym regularly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 14:58:39 No.1331833 Report

Quoted By: >>1331839

>>1331830
A stable platform is ideal for competitive weight lifting. This is not competitive weight listing, it's training for cycling. An less-than-perfectly-stable platform is preferable for maximizing the load on your nervous system. You can't pull as much weight and you don't want to because you'd injure yourself. I am not suggesting you try deadlifting with bosu balls as this is still a power lift, but lifting shoes are by no means necessary and focus the attention on the wrong thing. They are often used a crutch for people with bad flexibility in the lower limbs. Just as using straps are a crutch for people with shitty grip strength who only want 1RM.

Physical therapy uses unstable platforms a lot, with smaller weights and greater volume. It is a really bad idea for people with bigger egos than brains because you will fuck yourself up, that is why crossfitters give it a bad reputation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 15:01:41 No.1331834 Report

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>>1331802
Thats really good. You must have an awesome nervous system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 15:03:23 No.1331836 Report

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>>1331828
I'm not OP but from experience my body loves an aggressive stance, only problem ive had is neck issues after +10 hours in the saddle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 15:10:19 No.1331839 Report

Quoted By: >>1331860

>>1331833
This whole post is incorrect.

From the weightlifting side of me, shoes are a must if you want to hit the correct depth and form while activating every possible muscle.
From the powerlifting side of me, deadlifting heavier weight with straps isn't cheating if you've already attempted the weight without them.
You'll probably say that lifting belts is a meme too.

>Physical therapy
Dude, really?
Lifting heavy vs lifting light isn't even a thing. You should always combine a heavy routine with a lighter routine. If you only stick to lighter equipment youll never react your best potential and you wont train your nervous system to grow stronger.

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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 15:21:48 No.1331843 Report

Quoted By: >>1331957

>>1331813

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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 16:09:07 No.1331860 Report

Quoted By: >>1331926

>>1331839
>shoes are a must if you want to hit the correct depth and form
See my point about flexibility. A normally constructed body does NOT need special angled "lifting shoes" to hit proper depth. If this is you, you are using shoes as a crutch to work around bad flexibility. Unless you are the 0.5% of people who legitimately cannot flex their ankles right, but oddly enough almost everyone who claims to NEED special lifting shoes seems to fit in this 0.5% much like the mythical "slow metabolism" people who gain 50 pounds from being in the same room as a donut

I'm not saying don't buy lifting shoes, there's nothing wrong with accessories but it is not a prerequisite for doing a squat or a deadlift. If you think it is, you skipped a step in your training

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 19:23:17 No.1331926 Report

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>>1331860
Op here, to answer your original post I don't wear lifting shoes. I wear 5 fingers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 20:15:21 No.1331944 Report

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I never got the weightlifting advisers. I doubt 1/5th of the peloton through the past century has lifted free weights. Just get used to eet, it worked for me. Raise the bars and lower them progressively if it's unbearable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 20:48:37 No.1331957 Report

Quoted By: >>1331971

>>1331843
Terrible argument

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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2019 21:34:50 No.1331971 Report

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