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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2019 23:25:19 No.1360274 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1360276 >>1360295 >>1360312 >>1360320 >>1360350 >>1360574 >>1360681 >>1360690 >>1361850

>see people driving around in mandeville
>literally every location there can be reached just as easily if you're walking
>there's even sidewalks for you to do this yet people don't even walk
>you could clear up any environmental issues you have by just walking
>it's also healthier for you and less expensive

What the fuck /n/? Why don't they just walk? What is wrong with my fellow Americans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2019 23:26:24 No.1360276 Report

Quoted By: >>1360278

>>1360274
walking is exercise in the mind of the average American

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2019 23:29:06 No.1360278 Report

Quoted By: >>1360294 >>1360461

>>1360276
You don't even need a car in a fucking city, I could see using one when living in rural areas. Also these very same city people like to create controversy about le environment but they never do anything for it and instead just continue to drive their cars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 00:25:20 No.1360294 Report

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>>1360278
Because working remote is better for environment, but greenfags can't agree with that. It is almost 2k20, and we still have not enough remote job offers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 00:26:00 No.1360295 Report

Quoted By: >>1360350

>>1360274
>dat pic
I learned to drive in a Ford Ka..... ooof

The issue comes down to US urban planning being focussed around the car. Compare any US city to a French, German, Italian, Dutch, Spanish, Belgian or Japanese city, and the difference is night and day.

Sure people still have cars, but they tend to leave the car out of the city, and instead will just drive to the train station and get the commuter/regional train into the city and then transfer onto rapid or light transit for their destination, with walking filling in the gaps in the city.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 01:19:14 No.1360312 Report

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>>1360274
DRIVINGDRIVINGDRIVINGVROOM VROOM I LOVE DRIVING

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 01:58:15 No.1360320 Report

Quoted By: >>1360324 >>1360347 >>1360520 >>1360551 >>1360709

>>1360274
If you hate it so much then don't drive.
But don't make the *mistake* of thinking you get to dictate what people can and can't do -- or would you like to live in an authoritarian dictatorship where (You) are forced to do or not do things that otherwise would be your choice?

Should people get more exercise? Yes.
Should they be *forced* to? No.

>and since someone is going to now give me shit:
I get more ""'exercise""" than any 3 average people because I ride a bike so much (just not for transportation, that would make zero sense and be completely inefficient in the use of my time every day).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 02:07:30 No.1360324 Report

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>>1360320
>If you hate it so much then don't drive
I don't when I'm in a city but it's needed when in rural environments

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 04:15:11 No.1360343 Report

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Your fellow Americans are quite fat and lazy.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 04:26:26 No.1360347 Report

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>>1360320
Imagine thinking that the auto-industry doesn't get to dictate city planning and nerf public transport to the point where it's really only an option to drive.
You fucking retard.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 04:41:08 No.1360350 Report

Quoted By: >>1360357 >>1360470

>>1360274
>just posts "Mandeville" as your location as if anyone in the fucking world knows where the hell that is
>thinks walking across town is remotely as convenient as driving even in your tiny little shithole
>apparently hasn't walked outside in a few days as your area is currently getting raped by Tropical Storm Obama
>prior to that, the daily high temp hasn't been below 90 since May

>>1360295
>eurocucks think their cities being so poorly planned that they're literally impossible to drive in is something to brag about

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 04:56:14 No.1360357 Report

Quoted By: >>1360360

>>1360350
Do you actually have autism, dude?

>prior to that, the daily high temp hasn't been below 90 since May
God willing your bloodline dies with you. It's fuckin' summer.

>>thinks walking across town is remotely as convenient as driving even in your tiny little shithole
How fat are you that you can't walk a mile?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 05:00:45 No.1360360 Report

Quoted By: >>1360370 >>1360672

>>1360357
> walk a mile?
This shit isn't worth walking 50 feet for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 05:06:21 No.1360362 Report

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I grew up in a small town (in America). It's 5 blocks long by 3 blocks wide. Perfect for biking. But my mother drives her car to the post office on the other side of town every day to get the mail.

Hot Take: She's a retard.
Smarter Take: It's hard to change someone's habits. She grew up driving everywhere (she grew up on a farm, so biking to town would've meant biking 10 miles on gravel roads up and down hills), and just never learned another habit. (It's the same reason why people are don't exercise enough, eat too much, or watch tv/computer all day.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 05:32:34 No.1360370 Report

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>>1360360
So, that's a yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 12:00:21 No.1360461 Report

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>>1360278
you need a car to not get mugged while walking in a US city

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 12:35:52 No.1360470 Report

Quoted By: >>1360478

>>1360350
cagers often drive so short distances that a bike would be much faster. it takes time to start/stop that thing and other road users and possible traffic lights slow you down too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 13:13:40 No.1360478 Report

Quoted By: >>1360548

>>1360470
You have to obey the lights on a bike too, unless you like the smell of the underside of a truck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 16:05:17 No.1360520 Report

Quoted By: >>1360825 >>1360987

>>1360320
>2019
>still thinks libertarianism is relevant
>still ahsn't realized air pollution fucks everyone over
>still hasn't learned about externalities

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 17:45:49 No.1360548 Report

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>>1360478
Nope! Many laws I have to follow actively put me in danger, so nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 17:51:43 No.1360551 Report

Quoted By: >>1360678 >>1360988

>>1360320
You are forcing people to deal with your pollution, cager. Your freedoms end where the rights of others begin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 18:54:24 No.1360574 Report

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>>1360274
Outside of the ~4 blocks that comprise Old Mandeville, there's nothing there to walk to or from. It's built with the assumption you'll drive.
You could bike but you'd die. Best option for you is to move somewhere people feel comfortable walking, because the built environment makes them feel safe doing so. Your closest option is about 30 miles to the south; it's a pretty easy drive there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 21:38:26 No.1360672 Report

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>>1360360
>that
I'd pay money to get away from there.
>could build anything we wanted
>built unpleasant grey shitstreaks no one wants to be in

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 22:01:57 No.1360678 Report

Quoted By: >>1360685 >>1360688 >>1360690 >>1360991

>>1360551
>Your freedoms end where the rights of others begin
You don't get to decide anything for anyone but (Yourself) so STFU authoritarian fascist pig. Go live in China if you want shit dictated to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 22:05:31 No.1360681 Report

Quoted By: >>1360685 >>1360690 >>1360709 >>1360774 >>1360991

>>1360274
Guess what? We're all going to continue to drive our cars whenever and wherever we want, and nothing you faggots say or do makes any difference at all because you're *irrelevant* and frankly are lucky to be allowed to exist alongside us who are in the majority. Pray that doesn't change for you and keep your fringie mouths shut.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 22:10:17 No.1360685 Report

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>>1360678
>>1360681

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 22:12:59 No.1360688 Report

Quoted By: >>1360989

>>1360678
>You don't get to decide anything for anyone but (Yourself) so STFU
>*decides for others how cities are designed, how much pollution they have to breathe, how much danger and noise they're exposed to*
11/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 22:13:24 No.1360689 Report

Quoted By: >>1360776

anyone ever see people back out of a parking space only to park on the other side of the lot to be closer to the next store to shop in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 22:16:27 No.1360690 Report

Quoted By: >>1360991 >>1360992

>>1360274
Most got jewed into thinking
>The only way I can get to places is with a car
Or
>Muh car=muh freedumbs
Like>>1360678 >>1360681
these fuck faces. I can kinda understand if it's like the middle of nowhere in the flyover states but, in the city? It would be cheaper without all the parking tickets, gas, taxes and all the other BS that comes with motor vehicles.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 22:57:42 No.1360705 Report

Quoted By: >>1360710 >>1360776

>dabs on the greenfags
>keeps congesting the city due to that being an infrastructure problem
>merely displaces the co2 emissions
/n/fags on suicide watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 23:08:54 No.1360709 Report

Quoted By:

>>1360320
>>1360681
how's the internet speeds at the nursing home, dude?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 23:09:12 No.1360710 Report

Quoted By: >>1360757

>>1360705
None is saying don't drive, e're saying they shouldn't come first in planning because it precludes every other option

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 00:55:01 No.1360757 Report

Quoted By: >>1360763

>>1360710
It absolutely should come first because driving is overwhelmingly the *best* option. Other options should still be accommodated more than they are though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 01:04:18 No.1360763 Report

Quoted By: >>1361849

>>1360757
Driving is only the best option at certain distances, in a certain built environment, with certain infrastructure already in place, and ample free parking at both ends. The argument is that building/rebuilding everything to manufacture the conditions for driving to be the best option is not good policy, as driving carries significant externalities making other modes of transportation more attractive to optimize for and encourage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 01:21:18 No.1360774 Report

Quoted By: >>1360779 >>1360796

>>1360681
>We're all going to continue to drive our cars whenever and wherever we want,
*increases car taxes*
*increases license fees*
*increases gas price AND gas tax*
*increases all fines*
*increases parking costs, takes away free gibs roadside parking for bike/buslane development and streetcar*
*takes away parking lots for infill, reducing supply and increasing prices of remaining lots*
Heh. Sure about that, kid? Enjoy paying $1500 a month to drive a cage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 01:24:41 No.1360776 Report

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>>1360689
My family used to do this and I called them a bunch of lazy fatasses and walked there to prove my point. I got there before they did.

I've seen people drive 1/8 mile down their driveway to get their mail and drive back. Cagers are so ugly, lazy, and obese you wouldn't believe it. Cages are nothing but obeast fattycarts, doorstep to doorstep walrus delivery systems.
>>1360705
>cage traffic congestion is a problem with infrastructure, not a problem that 400,000 people all want to drive a bedroom sized box around the city all day and park it 3 different places for free
kk enjoy paying $20/hour for parking fagwad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 01:28:36 No.1360779 Report

Quoted By:

>>1360774

They pay $1500 a month to live in one, so why should that be a stretch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 01:54:49 No.1360796 Report

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>>1360774
*registers car in middle of nowhere*
Prob?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 03:31:32 No.1360825 Report

Quoted By: >>1360990

>>1360520
>still ahsn't realized air pollution fucks everyone over
The smog issue was solved decades ago in the first world. As for global warming, the IPCCs own estimates show that it's better for the economy to do nothing than to reduce emissions with a carbon tax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 11:37:28 No.1360987 Report

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>>1360520
>2019
>still hasn't realized he's completely irrelevant
>still hasn't realized how tolerant society is of fringies like him
>still hasn't realized he should shut his mouth before everyones' tolerance of him wears thin and he is *CENSURED* with severe prejudice by society in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 11:38:46 No.1360988 Report

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>>1360551
You are forcing internet people to deal with your data pollution, cager. Your freedoms end where the rights of everyone else using the internets begin.
>he just doesn't understand: he's irrelevant and just annoys people even worse than Vegans annoy people
Time for the re-education camp, I see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 11:40:47 No.1360989 Report

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>>1360688
>doesn't seem to understand how *the will of the People* works
that would be because you're on the FRINGES of society and not really a part of it. That's why what you think and say are IRRELEVANT.

Go ride your bike, kid, and STFU, before we send you to a reeducation camp or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 11:42:39 No.1360990 Report

Quoted By: >>1361071

>>1360825
>As for global warming, the IPCCs own estimates show that it's better for the economy to do nothing than to reduce emissions with a carbon tax.

What the fuck are you even saying bro? The IPCC strongly suggests a heavy carbon tax. Do you think it's only worth doing if it's good for the economy in the short term?

That's just absurd and makes no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 11:43:02 No.1360991 Report

Quoted By: >>1360992 >>1360993

>>1360690
>Like>>1360678 (You) >>1360681 (You)
Sure, sure. I'm supposed to burn through 3 hours of a 24 hour day 5 days a week taking shitty buses to and from work instead of 50 minutes total driving? I'm supposed to be stuck wherever shitty buses and trains go instead of where I want to go when I want to go there?
Eat shit and die. Enjoy your limited life living in insect hives you call """cities""", never understanding true personal freedom. You're an automaton, an NPC, and you don't even know it.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 11:46:12 No.1360992 Report

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>>1360690
>I can kinda understand if it's like the middle of nowhere in the flyover states but, in the city?
>>1360991
>Enjoy your limited life living in insect hives you call """cities"""

>anon explicitly says he's talking about cities
>you think he's talking about you, who don't live in a city

sweetie you're not making any sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 11:49:15 No.1360993 Report

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>>1360991
I live in the city, walk to work, ride my bike on bike paths for 90% of my grocery and errand runs, and own a car for when I want to drive out of town, and since I put so few miles on it upkeep costs for gas, maintenance, and insurance are dirt cheap. Get dabbed on boomer fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 11:55:54 No.1360996 Report

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>avatarfagging as the bartender
omegayikes

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:34:32 No.1361071 Report

Quoted By: >>1361074 >>1361076

>>1360990
Note that this is only using IPCC data.
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/climate-change/using-ipcc-defeat-un-climate-agenda/
"Therefore, even if massive intervention somehow eliminatedall climate change damage—which it wouldn’t—thenat bestit would spare the globe 2.5 percent GDP of damage in the year 2050. And yet, we already know from our table with the gray shading earlier in this post, that the economiccompliance costsof our policy would be 3.4 percent of global GDP in the year 2050."

This doesn't cover warming that far in the future, but remember that incomes continue to rise over time. The EPA has shown us that an optimal carbon tax would only take the 2100 temperature increase from 4 to 3.5 degrees. When they say optimal they mean at all realistic. Makes you think about government fear mongering over the need to limit warming to 1.5 degrees.
https://mises.org/wire/what-universities-wont-teach-college-students-about-economics-climate-change

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:39:15 No.1361074 Report

Quoted By: >>1361090

>>1361071
Hold on a second. Do you think that not destroying the planet has to be economically justifiable in the short term to be worthwhile?

Just fucking cut down all the forests in the world bro. That will be fantastic for GDP in the next 50 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:42:44 No.1361076 Report

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>>1361071
Whatsmore, the fact that the suggested carbon tax is almost economically justifiable, over 2/3 so, solely in terms of mitigating damage, and ignoring all other potential benefits, within just 50 years, is a stat strongly in favor of doing it.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised that they have found it to be as economically justifiable in the short term, as it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 15:31:08 No.1361090 Report

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>>1361074
https://mises.org/wire/ignore-fear-mongering-heres-what-climate-change-models-actually-say
If they could expect the planet to be destroyed by global warming the IPCCs estimates of GDP change would reflect that, and support a massive carbon tax. It's hard to imagine the apocalypse itself reducing growth by just a few percent.
>Do you think that not destroying the planet has to be economically justifiable in the short term to be worthwhile?
It's not justified in the long term either. Incomes centuries in the future will be so high they'll be able to deal with warming effects, and still be hugely wealthy compared to us.

Not to mention the effect of economic growth on lifespan and wellbeing. If the carbon tax hurts the economy more than doing nothing, that also means it will kill more people than doing nothing. So unless you value the lives of animals and plants over people it's impossible to justify.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jul 2019 02:24:58 No.1361849 Report

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>>1360763
Very good post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jul 2019 02:30:24 No.1361850 Report

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>>1360274
What up Mandeville.. i live about about 45 minutes north of you across the Mississippi border

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