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Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 09:34:18 No.1509457 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1509484 >>1509531 >>1509687

> THRU AXLE STEEL DISC TOURING BIKE?1/?!?!?!?1
> SOUNDS PRACTICAL!!!!!
>LIKE A BOAT ANCHOR, YOU SAY???
> SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 11:56:49 No.1509484 Report

Quoted By: >>1509520

>>1509457
Why wouldn't that be practical?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 11:56:55 No.1509485 Report

Quoted By: >>1509535 >>1509553 >>1509588 >>1511123

it's overpriced and underspecced. fucking lmao at sti on a tourer instead of based barcons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 13:21:55 No.1509520 Report

Quoted By: >>1509523 >>1509553 >>1509593

>>1509484
Can’t fix thru axle with a hammer and some twigs, DIY repairs are very important if you get a flat tire on the five boro boomer ride

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 13:33:41 No.1509523 Report

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>>1509520
i kek'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 13:43:31 No.1509531 Report

Quoted By: >>1509553 >>1509585

>>1509457
I got a Cross Check and it's comfy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 13:50:42 No.1509535 Report

Quoted By: >>1509553 >>1509585 >>1509594 >>1509837 >>1509853 >>1509855 >>1509886

>>1509485

I don't follow. Integrated shifters are like a thousand times more durable and reliable than barcons.... I have literally never seen a pair of shimano barcons that did not crack the detent ring in less than 1000 miles and while I enjoy friction shifting on aesthetic and kineaesthetic levels it is objectively less efficient for all types of riding....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 14:33:47 No.1509553 Report

Quoted By: >>1509785

>>1509531
>I got a Cross Check and it's comfy.
of course, because it's not disc or thru-axle. compliance is all in the fork

>>1509520
strawman. a touring bike is for touring. perhaps surly knows their audience is more interested in hype than practicality. perhaps that's what my entire post was about

>>1509485
yep

>>1509535
>I have literally never seen a pair of shimano barcons that did not crack the detent ring in less than 1000 miles
bullshit. unless _you_ installed it. then maybe I believe it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 16:17:37 No.1509585 Report

Quoted By:

>>1509531
i have a crosscheck and original model lht. i live in the comfy zone.

>>1509535
>muh thousand tiny annoying parts
>muh complex action
>muh tortured cable path
>my personal retardation is objective and applies to everything
lmao, get fucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 16:21:21 No.1509588 Report

Quoted By:

>>1509485
fucking lmao at drop bars on a tourer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 16:34:58 No.1509593 Report

Quoted By:

>>1509520
cant even rip apart a junk yard for spare 13 mm axles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 16:36:19 No.1509594 Report

Quoted By:

>>1509535
>shimano barcons
that was your first mistake

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 18:05:29 No.1509626 Report

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Yeah man ratchets are really fucking complicated

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jul 2020 21:40:30 No.1509687 Report

Quoted By: >>1509780

>>1509457
building 1 atm
u jelly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 01:03:12 No.1509780 Report

Quoted By: >>1510098

>>1509687

consider getting a canti LHT fork and building with machined rims

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 01:11:55 No.1509785 Report

Quoted By: >>1509800 >>1509803

>>1509553
>of course, because it's not disc or thru-axle. compliance is all in the fork
Are you saying thru axle reduces compliance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 03:03:49 No.1509800 Report

Quoted By:

>>1509785
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 03:11:19 No.1509803 Report

Quoted By: >>1509823

>>1509785
>...with a rigid fork, the thru-axle, crown, and legs together form a rigid box, resulting in more precise steering control, thanks to a reduction in lateral fork flex.
- Zinn
https://www.velonews.com/gear/technical-faq-thru-axles-frame-stiffness/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 04:11:59 No.1509823 Report

Quoted By:

>>1509803
>lateral
That's a good thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 04:30:44 No.1509837 Report

Quoted By:

>>1509535
Hello anon, since tourerfags are all dumb retrogrouches, I am going to agree with you. Shimano barcons are meant for aerobars and are not durable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 05:06:03 No.1509853 Report

Quoted By:

>>1509535
friction is superior for shifting triples though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 05:07:05 No.1509855 Report

Quoted By: >>1509859 >>1509864

>>1509535
hmmm really? wtf? why?
shimano indexed downtube shifters last for ever in my experience and i thought barcons were basically the same tech?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 05:28:11 No.1509859 Report

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>>1509855
DT shifters never hit anything when you lean the bike or it falls or crashes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 05:39:08 No.1509864 Report

Quoted By: >>1509957

>>1509855

Yah.
Do not know why.
Like you said the DT indexed shifters are bombproof but it seems like the barcons commonly have problems with the index ring.

I learned this the hard way, by buying several used barcons with cracked and apparently unreplaceable detent rings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 06:40:53 No.1509886 Report

Quoted By:

>>1509535
>Integrated shifters are like a thousand times more durable and reliable than barcons
that's not really true though, is it ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 07:05:46 No.1509907 Report

Quoted By: >>1509965 >>1509970 >>1509986

DISC FORKS ON RIGID BIKES UNDER 2'0: FUCKING SUCK ASS

IF YOU DON'T NOTICE IT YOU ARE PROBABLY A MANLET. IT'S INSTANTLY HORRIBLE IF YOU ARE A BIG BURLY MAN WHO PUTS WEIGHT ON A BIKE. YOU LITTLE NOODLE BOYS PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MASS TO FLEX AN ALAN OR VITUS YOU ARE A WEAK LITTLE BASEDMALES WHO THINK EVERY FORK IS AN UNBENDABLE RIGID PIECE OF DARK MATTER. YES YOU WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND OR NOTICE BUT WE ALPHA MALES EXPERIENCE SIGNIFICANT COMPLIANCE IN THE FORK AREA AND IT FEELS GOOD WHEN DONE RIGHT AKA NO DISC

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 11:29:56 No.1509957 Report

Quoted By: >>1509985

>>1509864
>using indexing period, let alone with barcons
>buying used parts, being surprised they're fucked up/broken
>buying used parts AGAIN, expecting different outcome
>not only admitting this, but using this personal retardation as fact

jfc man

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 12:10:01 No.1509965 Report

Quoted By: >>1510169

>>1509907
t. hamlard who should eat less and ride more

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 12:28:31 No.1509970 Report

Quoted By: >>1510169

>>1509907
>I’m better than you because when I sit on bikes they break

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:06:02 No.1509985 Report

Quoted By:

>>1509957
The jew fears the friction shifter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:06:44 No.1509986 Report

Quoted By: >>1510169

>>1509907
>needing a more flexible fork
man what a wimp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 17:46:10 No.1510098 Report

Quoted By:

>>1509780
>canti LHT
rad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 21:11:26 No.1510169 Report

Quoted By: >>1511092

>>1509965
>>1509970
I'm 200lbs of muscle. Learn to read cowards

>>1509986
While I could break you body in half with one strike, my joints are still made of cartilage and vulnerable to HORSESHIT overbuilt '''road disc''' forks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 19:30:15 No.1511092 Report

Quoted By:

>>1510169
alrighty then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 21:09:14 No.1511123 Report

Quoted By: >>1511181 >>1511188

>>1509485
Is there a single documented case of a brifter failing on a tour?
This seems like a scheme to sell deprecated gear to retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 22:59:39 No.1511164 Report

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>Is there a single documented case of a brifter failing on a tour?

I've never heard of one failing at all except for that idiot in bqg that destroyed one while trying and failing to take out a cable. At the end of the day it's just a fucking ratchet that never gets put under any meaningful load.

>This seems like a scheme to sell deprecated gear to retards.

I wouldn't go that far. Barcons are perfectly nice. I wouldn't ride them in a packed race-pace peloton or on tight, fast singletrack but I would be perfectly happy to ride them anywhere else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 23:34:09 No.1511181 Report

Quoted By: >>1511188

>>1511123
is there a single documented case of a barcon failing on a tour? enjoy your tortured cable path and fraying cables.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 23:42:54 No.1511188 Report

Quoted By: >>1511295 >>1511308

>>1511181
Shifters don't really fail.

>>1511123

I think the idea is that a touring bike is intended to clock up big miles in a short span of time and friction shifters are better able to adapt to a worn out chain than indexed shifters. So at the start of your tour you can have your barcons in indexed mode and a couple thousand miles later when your drivetrain gets noisy you can just flip the toggle to friction and forget about it until you can get a new chain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 09:29:57 No.1511295 Report

Quoted By:

>>1511188
>friction shifters are better able to adapt to a worn out chain

I have worn out tens of chains and I've never had it cause any issue with shifting. How do you even envision one affecting the other?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 11:44:06 No.1511308 Report

Quoted By:

>>1511188
Chain wear doesn't affect shifting at all

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