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At a meeting last year, industry leaders contradicted public claims that emissions of climate-warming methane are under control Last summer, oil and gas-industry groups were lobbying to overturn federal rules on leaks of natural gas, a major contributor to climate change. Their message: The companies had emissions under control. In private, the lobbyists were saying something very different. At a discussion convened last year by the Independent Petroleum Association of America, a group that represents energy companies, participants worried that producers were intentionally flaring, or burning off, far too much natural gas, threatening the industry’s image. “We’re just flaring a tremendous amount of gas,” said Ron Ness, president of the North Dakota Petroleum Council, at the June 2019 gathering, held in Colorado Springs. “This pesky natural gas,” he said. “The value of it is very minimal,” particularly to companies drilling mainly for oil. Yet the practice of burning it off, producing dramatic flares and attracting criticism, represented a “huge, huge threat” to the industry’s efforts to portray natural gas as a cleaner and more climate-friendly energy source, he said, and that was damaging the industry’s image, particularly among younger generations. “What’s our message going forward?” Mr. Ness said. “What’s going to stick with those young people and make them support oil and gas?” Neither the organization nor the official was willing to be identified, out of concerns for industry retaliation, but three people heard in the recording, including the event’s moderator, Ryan Ullman of the Independent Petroleum Association, said that it reflected their comments. Jennifer Pett Marsteller, an association spokeswoman, confirmed the meeting’s date, location and speakers’ list, which matched the recording. Mr. Ness has publicly spoken against the need to strengthen regulation of methane.
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Many companies do directly drill for and capture natural gas for use. But researchers have warned that drilling for the gas also causes sizable leaks of methane directly into the atmosphere, which is even more damaging for the climate than flaring the gas. Methane can also escape faulty flares, and companies sometimes also deliberately release the gas from wells and pipelines in a practice known as venting. Methane can trap more than 80 times more heat in the earth’s atmosphere than carbon dioxide, over the shorter term. Research has shown that methane emissions from oil and gas production are far larger than previously estimated. “The oil and natural gas industry has a pure economic incentive to prevent every molecule of ‘pollutant’ from escaping to the atmosphere,” wrote James D. Elliott, a lawyer representing a coalition of oil and gas groups led by the Independent Petroleum Association, in a letter to the EPA in 2019. But speaking a few months earlier, at the June 2019 meeting, Mr. Ness appeared to contradict that argument. There is such a glut of natural gas, he said, that some producers that drill primarily for oil have little use for the gas that comes up with it. Yet “you’ve got to manage your gas to produce your oil.”
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>>1549758 Chill out dude lol
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>they are just venting fuel because they can't sell that fuel for as much as they can sell the other fuel capitalism was a mistake, profits shouldn't be above efficiency. it's like catching a whole shark just for its fins and then dumping the rest back in the ocean.
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>>1549766 Fossil fuel subsidies were the biggest mistake we ever made.
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Why can't we just gas them with their own fumes and bullshit?
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>>1549757 What's going to make young people support oil and gas? Hard lobbying for more affordable and more enjoyable cars, and building containers to store natural gas in. Sell it off to rural consumers as it gets full and they can expand the market for gas appliances
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>>1549766 Sociopaths were a mistake. There are dozens of alternatives to giving money to jews and arabs, yet this is still going on.
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I'd like to see folks transition from oil and gas to biofuel honestly. Oil and gas executives are sociopaths and destroying the environment, biofuels would help alleviate things by 1: being renewable and 2: being carbon neutral. It'd help a lot while we transition to full electric and hydrogen fuel. Hydrogen fuel is especially based.
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>>1549798 And electric or solar fuels. Some vehicles might not be worth transitioning, specially if batteries continue to suck and real fuel efficiency improvements stop being suppressed.
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>>1549766 >>1549767 >>1549781 Boomers are the mistake. Trace back every single one of those issues and you'll see it goes back to the boomers.
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>>1549757 >agenda-driven anonymous sources selectively leak unverified quotes to compliant media whores who carefully assemble them into hit pieces to push political narratives Yeah, I really just don't give a fuck.
Regardless of whether I give a fuck about muh global warming in the first place, I *independently* don't give a fuck about anything the corporate press shits out these days. Especially during an election.
Seethe and dilate.
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>>1549843 And their juicy masters.
>>1549850 t. juicy person
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>>1549850 >anonymous Looks like you can’t read. Named sources in the meeting confirmed the transcript.
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>>1549932 Cagetrolls have learning disabilities and little to no education.
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>>1549932 One named person confirmed only his own comments, which weren't even in the article.
>>1549943 >this guy Can't you losers even have an internet argument without it turning into group therapy?
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Neither the organization nor the official was willing to be identified, out of concerns for industry retaliation, but three people heard in the recording, including the event’s moderator, Ryan Ullman of the Independent Petroleum Association, said that it reflected their comments. Jennifer Pett Marsteller, an association spokeswoman, confirmed the meeting’s date, location and speakers’ list, which matched the recording.
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>>1549842 Yeah battery-suckage is still an issue, I agree.
It'd be cool working on improving batteries but if that aint an option, spreading and popularizing vehicles that run on hydrogen or biofuels would be very good, especially further out in the sticks, but fueling station availability may be an issue because not everyone can share or get to the single ethanol pump at the station 20 miles away.
I've often wondered about an electric car with a solar panel on the roof but I feel like it wouldn't work that well for whatever reason.
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>>1549956 Hydrogen can be made at home or directly at the gas station.
Also many engines are multi-fuel, some even run on hydrocarbons and hydrogen.
Some existing engines can be adapted to run on natural gas and ethanol already.
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>>1549954 >one other named source verified that there was a meeting >one named source verified only his own comments which weren't even used in the article >two anonymous sources verified only their own comments. Which comments they were and whether those comments were even in the article is anyone's guess Journalism!
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As renewables become cheaper and cheaper, less people will bother drilling for oil and gas. But undoing methane regulations is retarded.
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>>1549983 >electric F-150 Has there ever been a new car model released by a major car company that sold literally zero before?
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>>1550004 It's going to be popular for campuses and places like airports/dockyards
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>>1549971 Sociopaths are so trash they can't even store it ir convert it into a more expensive product.
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>>1549766 Nice bomb faggot
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There have been other instances of oil companies doing this. Rex Tillerson came out and said Exxon acknowledged the fuck out of climate change privately but told a different story in public.
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>>1550320 Too bad CEOs and managers are too retarded to understand it doesn't cause climate change either.
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>>1550004 >>1550034 I think they'll be big with government and corporate fleets too, shit like utility companies, plumbing and HVAC companies, elevator service, pest control, shit like that. Most of those companies serve a relatively small area from any given depot/office and usually drive somewhere in the morning, work all day, and then drive back, so electrics have plenty of range and would mean big savings on gas and maintenance. Power companies in particular will probably eat that shit up because they already own the electricity they'd be charging the trucks with.
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>>1550449 >plumbers and exterminators only do one job per day Anonymous
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>>1550449 Agreed. Amazon and USPS are already buying tens of thousands of electric delivery vans so electric fleet trucks make sense.
Delivery vans have to drive more than fleet trucks everyday anyway.
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>>1549766 waste not want not