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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2020 15:16:02 No.1557890 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1557912 >>1558366 >>1558367 >>1558761

Discuss developments in your area and other urban planning/transit-related topics.

>Jersey City's city council approved an ordinance mandating 20% affordable housing on certain new developments.
https://jerseydigs.com/jersey-city-advances-inclusionary-housing-ordinance/

>A group is suing to stop a development because it will block their view of New York City
NIMBYs at it again...
https://jerseydigs.com/lawsuit-to-block-84-unit-development-144-first-street-downtown-jersey-city/

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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2020 15:32:08 No.1557897 Report

Quoted By: >>1557963 >>1558454

Construction is proceeding at a good pace, right in front of my house. This thing is gonna be YUGE when it's finished.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2020 15:35:09 No.1557900 Report

Quoted By: >>1557912

I’m in a midsized city. Zoning doesn’t seem to be an issue here because the city council is just so grateful that someone wants to build here they’ll zone a parcel however you want it.

That being said it’s nice to see these infill projects going up and people showing interest in the city center.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2020 15:59:05 No.1557912 Report

Quoted By: >>1561003

>>1557890
>NIMBYs at it again...
Lol people paid a bunch of money for the in-town life and get to experience other new-rich assholes coming in and fucking up the one nice thing they had. They deserve it

>>1557900
>it’s nice
Is it nice, Chang?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2020 16:10:54 No.1557914 Report

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I’m not sure which mental disorder this cagetroll spammer has but just ignore him. ^
He’ll probably get banned for flooding since he autistically replies to every single post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2020 18:24:38 No.1557963 Report

Quoted By: >>1558734

>>1557897
looks like you need connections to a river ferry for the neighborhoods north of the river. but wow that's a pretty good looking line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 00:14:28 No.1558082 Report

Quoted By: >>1558086 >>1561006

even if i lived in a dense area id still want a car for travel to rural areas .

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 00:36:18 No.1558086 Report

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>>1558082
Try it sometime. Personally I've found that compared to living in a suburban area, when you live somewhere dense your need for a car drops off even more because the things you need to get to routinely are all closer, and there's less need for longer trips. Then you end up asking whether it's worth paying to insure something that you almost never use, and need to remember to drive at least once a month to keep the battery charged.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 04:45:48 No.1558143 Report

Quoted By: >>1558401

I support nacho sprawl.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 05:52:46 No.1558168 Report

Quoted By: >>1558324

Best City in the US
>tfw can't stop winning

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 17:28:38 No.1558324 Report

Quoted By: >>1558344

>>1558168
Chicago is like NYC but you actually have sunlight and space
t. New Yorker

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 17:39:01 No.1558329 Report

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Soul?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 18:18:50 No.1558344 Report

Quoted By: >>1558934 >>1560434

>>1558324
Isn't Chicago frozen from october to may? What sunlight do you speak of

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 18:50:51 No.1558357 Report

Quoted By: >>1558364 >>1558403 >>1558406

Does anyone experience the problem of a developer buying a prime parcel, clearing the land, then not doing anything with it for over a year?
In my city a lot of times something happens and the developer runs out of financing so it’s a long time before the project gets off the ground again.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 19:01:08 No.1558359 Report

Quoted By: >>1560689

Reseda Blvd in Los Angeles getting new protected bike lanes.

https://urbanize.la/post/new-protected-bike-lanes-coming-reseda-boulevard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 19:15:51 No.1558364 Report

Quoted By: >>1558406

>>1558357
Worse than that is when a developer underperforms. Half acre downtown? Neighboring buildings from the 40s are 20 stories, neighboring buildings from the 80s are 60 stories? Better build a five over one!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 19:22:21 No.1558365 Report

Quoted By: >>1558404 >>1558409 >>1558490 >>1558737 >>1559838

The citizens of Zurich, Switzerland voted for a public initiative, demanding 50km of car free cycling routes built in the city within 10 years. The result was 70.5% YES vs 29.5% NO, the participation was the highest in 50 years. Right wing conservatives and the liberal democrats were staunchly against it, fearing this will interrupt motorized traffic and especially hated the idea that parking spaces get turned into cycling lanes.
Zurich is notorious for having some of the worst cycling infrastructure in Switzerland, despite citizens demanding changes for a long time and having voted so several times before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 19:27:54 No.1558366 Report

Quoted By: >>1558387 >>1558411 >>1558417 >>1558740 >>1558761

>>1557890
The whole point of America is that you work hard to distinguish yourself and ALSO freedom of association. People get educations and jobs to escape poverty and crime, and bringing poverty and crime to people despite their effort to avoid it should be unconstitutional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 19:34:30 No.1558367 Report

Quoted By: >>1558369

>>1557890
Stuff is going slow but good here in KC. Streetcar system is getting another plan for extension, and we might see an Amtrak line to DFW in the next few years (which would be a great alternative to driving considering how shit the I-35 corridor is)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 19:38:05 No.1558369 Report

Quoted By: >>1558489

>>1558367
You know they have direct flights to DFW right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 19:59:01 No.1558387 Report

Quoted By: >>1558412

>>1558366
Wtf are you talking about. Did you forget to take your medication?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:15:54 No.1558401 Report

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>>1558143
wisdom

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:17:16 No.1558403 Report

Quoted By: >>1558491 >>1561011

>>1558357

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:18:34 No.1558404 Report

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>>1558365
Conservatives and liberal democrats absolutely btfo by this BASED outcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:20:01 No.1558406 Report

Quoted By: >>1558693

>>1558357
>>1558364
I see no problem with any of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:22:00 No.1558409 Report

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>>1558365
>Right wing conservatives and the liberal democrats were staunchly against
>the moneyed interests that put me in office aren't going to get what they want
good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:24:01 No.1558411 Report

Quoted By: >>1558412

>>1558366
>and now a word from a fourteen-year-old alt righter from Cornfield, Iowa about what he thinks happens in urban areas

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:25:54 No.1558412 Report

Quoted By: >>1558416

>>1558387
>>1558411
Not him but he's right

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:30:27 No.1558416 Report

Quoted By: >>1558418

>>1558412
Not him but you're wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:31:55 No.1558417 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558366
Wait, crime isn't unconstitutional?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:33:43 No.1558418 Report

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>>1558416
Are you still living in a dorm, or have you gotten an apartment? What classes are you taking this semester?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:34:18 No.1558419 Report

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can we go back to urban panning and leave the /pol/ bait be?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:35:26 No.1558420 Report

Quoted By: >>1558423 >>1558923 >>1561013

Boomer nimbys may not like it, but this is what a perfect city looks like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:36:58 No.1558423 Report

Quoted By: >>1558426

>>1558420
I love the many parks and recreational areas, looks really comfy!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:39:59 No.1558426 Report

Quoted By: >>1558428

>>1558423
Imagine arbitrarily limiting housing supply to have.. uhh... a patch of grass?

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:44:53 No.1558428 Report

Quoted By: >>1558433

>>1558426
Yes, parks and recreational areas are what makes living quality in a densely populated city. If you don't have playgrounds and parks your are will turn into a ghetto sooner or later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:48:13 No.1558433 Report

Quoted By: >>1558456 >>1561016

>>1558428
I’m sorry but if you truly believe in getting rid of single-family zoning you can’t advocate for parks which are an even more massive waste of potential housing. And usually they are where all of the vagrants gather anyways because no one can kick them out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:51:11 No.1558435 Report

Quoted By:

>muh can only have suburbia shoe boxes or asphalt jungle
>because I say so
>muh vagrants
I know you're pissed that Trump is losing the election big time. Please keep your frustration inside /pol/ and don't bring your bait here.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:53:25 No.1558437 Report

Quoted By: >>1558442 >>1558456 >>1558475 >>1558476 >>1561020

>San Francisco doesn’t have enough homes

GEE I WONDER WHY

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 20:55:32 No.1558442 Report

Quoted By: >>1558452 >>1558456 >>1558476 >>1561020

>>1558437
>median home price in manhattan is almost a million

GEE

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:00:09 No.1558446 Report

Quoted By: >>1558449 >>1558457 >>1561019

>I'm looking like this and keep baiting on /UPG/

GEE I WONDER WHY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:00:28 No.1558447 Report

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Blanket ban on the construction of new housing for 10 years.

Let’s see what happens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:02:48 No.1558449 Report

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>>1558446
Damn I actually want that shirt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:03:12 No.1558450 Report

Quoted By: >>1558455 >>1558461 >>1560644

Urbanization is dead. The new trend will be small communities and clusters stretched out along transportation corridors. No one wants to live in cramped hellholes with rampaging wildlife.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:04:36 No.1558452 Report

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>>1558442
Because it's close to water and to green? Yeah, that's exactly how Sim City 3000 works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:04:43 No.1558453 Report

Quoted By: >>1558455

>hey, let’s take a massive chunk of the city the size of hundreds of homes and say no one is allowed to live there so it can be a dog toilet

t. The guy who caused the housing crisis, 200 years ago

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:08:32 No.1558454 Report

Quoted By: >>1558458

>>1557897
>1 air matress
>1 sixpack beer
>1 prerolled joint
>as many friends as you need
Jump in the river at Wipkingen, let the current drag you down to Dietikon, grab a Kebab, take the LTB home. Best thing ever!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:10:54 No.1558455 Report

Quoted By: >>1559336

>>1558450
>>1558453
>look mommy, I'm being edgy
Why tho? Disgruntled cager or just desperate for (You)s?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:10:58 No.1558456 Report

Quoted By: >>1558459 >>1558462

>>1558433
>>1558437
>>1558442
Kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:12:45 No.1558457 Report

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>>1558446
Is that A.F. in Segal's?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:12:47 No.1558458 Report

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>>1558454
Thanks to the LBT we now can send our Armada directly into the heart of Aargau,

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:13:37 No.1558459 Report

Quoted By: >>1558462

>>1558456
Figures you would say that, you don’t care about my life the same way you don’t care about thousands of unhoused humans dying alone in the street every day because of muh picnic in the park once a year

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:15:34 No.1558460 Report

Quoted By: >>1558465 >>1558472 >>1558481

Do Americans have public baths in crystal clear rivers in the middle of their cities? Or is that a luxury only Europeans enjoy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:21:30 No.1558461 Report

Quoted By: >>1561200

>>1558450
>The new trend will be the old trend that existed before cars
Cool, good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:22:32 No.1558462 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558459
See >>1558456

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:31:15 No.1558465 Report

Quoted By: >>1558467 >>1558482

>>1558460
Almost all American rivers are polluted with shit and chemicals from upstream factories and landfills. It's literally a 3rd world shithole.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:33:48 No.1558467 Report

Quoted By: >>1558736

>>1558465
Too bad. It is great fun in summer. After work you roll by with your bike, have a swim and maybe a brew with your buddies whilst enjoying the bikini contest. You really should try it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:44:22 No.1558472 Report

Quoted By: >>1558474

>>1558460
Central Texas has them. Spring-fed pools.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:47:10 No.1558474 Report

Quoted By: >>1558494

>>1558472
What city?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:50:10 No.1558475 Report

Quoted By: >>1558554

>>1558437
one park doesn't create a housing crisis. SF's problem is they can't build any housing over two or three stories.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:50:58 No.1558476 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558437
>>1558442
Even if those areas were converted to residential there still wouldn't be enough homes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 21:59:22 No.1558481 Report

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>>1558460
on a warm day, hundreds of people float the Chattahoochee in Atlanta. the water probably isn't especially clean but it isn't harmful. fun times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:01:17 No.1558482 Report

Quoted By: >>1560435

>>1558465
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:10:43 No.1558489 Report

Quoted By: >>1558500

>>1558369
I’m not made of money, shit’s expensive

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:11:05 No.1558490 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558365
Very based. Beautiful city btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:12:36 No.1558491 Report

Quoted By: >>1558502

>>1558403
No they're not holding onto the vacant lot to sell it. They want to build on it but they rely on multiple financiers. If one financier pulls out they can't build so the project's in limbo for over a year.
Happens a lot in my mid-large city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:16:39 No.1558494 Report

Quoted By: >>1558504

>>1558474
Austin specifically, but there's several all around in smaller towns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:30:32 No.1558500 Report

Quoted By: >>1560266

>>1558489
Southwest was as low as $49 one way. That's below Amtrak pricing. There's always the bus as well.

>But I neeeeeed a train
No you don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:32:20 No.1558502 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558491
Basically this. Few lenders want to commit to most or all funding of new housing even in large cities, so you have to go around to different lenders to get what you need, and if one of them gets nervous before you've secured additional loans or the market takes a dip or whatever, tough shit. Pick up the pieces.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:33:54 No.1558504 Report

Quoted By: >>1558515 >>1558516 >>1558526

>>1558494
Cool, tell me more about Austin. Do they have decent urban infrastructure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:45:19 No.1558515 Report

Quoted By: >>1558518

>>1558504
Austin does not have decent urban infrastructure but they’re proposing a new rail system and subway. It will be voted on next month.

They’re also building a ton of apartments so it’s progressively getting more pedestrian/transit-friendly.
https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/2020/08/20/austin-tops-all-metros-for-apartment-builds.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:46:23 No.1558516 Report

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>>1558504
It's a typical American city, ie not walkable unless you live downtown.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:51:22 No.1558518 Report

Quoted By: >>1558520

>>1558515
Stadler GTW. Good taste! So you say Austin is progressive? How does that pay out economy wise / real estate? Also what's the grove like there? As a European that has never been there I imagine central Texas somewhat conservative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 22:55:23 No.1558520 Report

Quoted By: >>1558525

>>1558518
Austin is known for being artsy and progressive in contrast to the rest of Texas.
It is currently pretty expensive because it’s trendy, but they’re building a lot of housing now so it’s not too bad.
They also have a lot of ADUs lately. My company is headquartered there so I visit occasionally.

https://www.austinmonthly.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-accessory-dwelling-units/

Their motto is “Keep Austin Weird”

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 23:00:27 No.1558525 Report

Quoted By: >>1558593 >>1559328

>>1558520
>Their motto is “Keep Austin Weird”
I guess if all the rest of Texas is the same they can create their own niche by being more pedestrian friendly and more progressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 23:00:31 No.1558526 Report

Quoted By: >>1558535 >>1558546

>>1558504
Yeah they've got one highway with the highest speed limit in the US there (85mph) for over 40 miles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2020 23:12:49 No.1558535 Report

Quoted By: >>1558555

>>1558526
So you can push your Honda civic almost to it's max velocity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 00:03:45 No.1558546 Report

Quoted By: >>1558555

>>1558526
That's not in Austin though. 130 runs outside of the city, and it's connection 'to' San Antonio is 40 miles outside of the city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 00:24:22 No.1558554 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558475
Bulldozing it would be a start, though. But of course if you tried it, the NIMPs would sperg out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 00:28:44 No.1558555 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558535
A Civic will go higher than that easily

>>1558546
But it makes escaping that rathole so much faster. Advantage: highway

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 02:53:44 No.1558593 Report

Quoted By: >>1559328 >>1561021

>>1558525
The last time I went to Austin there were homeless people on every street corner, even the more suburban areas. Yay progress!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 07:58:14 No.1558693 Report

Quoted By: >>1558757

>>1558406
It doesn’t piss you off that a prime parcel that would get little to no opposition in reaching like 80 stories gets used to build a generic ugly building 1/16 of the height?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 10:16:52 No.1558727 Report

Quoted By: >>1558743 >>1558755 >>1559336

I think I get the urban planing problem in the US, it seems like a political one. Right wing cage cuckers just can't stand the idea of people living outside cager suburbia in what the rest of the world sees as normal cities, with pedestrians, public transport parks, shops and restaurants in walking distance.
Pretty sad state of affairs, but as always the market will solve this one, people nowadays prefer real urbanity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 11:03:59 No.1558734 Report

Quoted By:

>>1557963
The river is about 20-30m wide, no ferries but there are a bunch of bridges.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 11:07:52 No.1558736 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558467
The two best things about living in Dietikon are the frequent and fast trains to Zurich, and the convenient access to the river, which doesn't get by far as crowded as in Zurich.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 11:09:30 No.1558737 Report

Quoted By: >>1558886

>>1558365
'ate bikes
'ate cars
luv trams

Simple as

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 11:15:19 No.1558740 Report

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>>1558366
The whole point of America is that you work hard and and pay your taxes so you can subsidize niggers and pay for the wars for Israel. People get education in holocaust class and then work 14 hours a day just to be able to live a European middle class lifestyle in a soulless suburb with a 2 hour commute, and then jews bring poverty and crime to people and you aren't allowed to criticize them.
Both of your political parties swear allegiance to jews and Israel, and the whole reason for your country to exist is to serve your overlords while you live on a diet of poisonous slop until you get sick and have to pay what little savings you have in medical bills.
tl;dr FREEDOM

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 11:19:11 No.1558743 Report

Quoted By: >>1558756

>>1558727
The urban planning problem in the US is that cities are just horrible, unpleasant places, and noone is really up to the task of resolving that.
It's really a crass example of how complex the working of a city is, how hard it is to build it up, how easy to destroy, and how rebuilding it will still never make it into what it used to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 11:32:03 No.1558755 Report

Quoted By: >>1558757 >>1558759 >>1558760

>>1558727
The people in charge of our cities are not right wing. It's not a partisan problem it's a NIMBY problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 11:34:30 No.1558756 Report

Quoted By: >>1558767 >>1559338

>>1558743
Just checked in on Austin TX
>public transport system, expansion planned
>dedicated cycling network
>pedestrian friendly inner city
>public pools and waterways
>gigantic bat colony under major bridge
that doesn't sound too bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 11:35:35 No.1558757 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558693
Not in the slightest

>>1558755
It's not a NIMBY issue either

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 11:42:07 No.1558759 Report

Quoted By: >>1559009

>>1558755
Yes well, we first had 60 years of cager cult, trying to build freeways trough a medieval city because cars are so coo, then we had a standstill for 20 years, then we had 6 years of a completely inept (Green) woman in charge, then we had another 4 years cager cuck in charge, then the people more or less revolted and finally we got Richie Wolff in charge. Now the mood is at boiling point, the city council got a crystal clear mandate and we got the right man in place.
Finally we will redistribute traffic are away from cars and towards cycling and pedestrians. Close down quarter roads for motorized traffic, slash parking spaces, slash car lanes and build uninterrupted, car free cycling lanes. Yes this will lead to more traffic jams for cars, but nobody really gives a fuck no more, take the train or leave us be, we are so feed up with 1 million cars from out of town clogging up our city just because it is convenient for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 11:43:55 No.1558760 Report

Quoted By: >>1558840

>>1558755
>NIMBY
It has more to do with how Swiss politics work, how the city and canton of zurich work and how the council type government of zurich works. It takes a shitload of time to change things here, even when you got the majority of the population on your side for a long time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 11:51:29 No.1558761 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558366
>>1557890
Based, mandatory poorfag aka immigrant housing ruined so many nice cities here, from being nice and comfy to places where girls are afraid to walk home alone at night
God bless those mayors that choose to pay fines over building immigrantblocks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 12:30:33 No.1558767 Report

Quoted By: >>1558769 >>1558889

>>1558756
Let's look at Austin.
Pic related is modal split, we have 4% using transit, 2% walking, and 1% cycling.

Austin is a city of 2 million and has one measly DMU light rail commuter line plus a bunch of buses.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 12:32:20 No.1558769 Report

Quoted By: >>1558770 >>1558795 >>1561023

>>1558767
This is what your "pedestrian friendly" downtown looks like. I guess some decent sidewalks are already an achievement, while the road has no less than six lanes. Plus some deathtrap bike sharrow.

Impressive.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 12:34:33 No.1558770 Report

Quoted By: >>1558771

>>1558769

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 12:35:36 No.1558771 Report

Quoted By: >>1558899

>>1558770
>In mid-2019,TomTomranked Austin as having the worst traffic congestion in Texas, as well as 19th nationally and 179th globally.[291]

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 12:45:43 No.1558774 Report

Quoted By: >>1558781 >>1558823 >>1559340 >>1560450

Anerican cities aren't cities, they're ironically like a communist wet dream only built outward rather than upward. You have the worker's living quarters (suburbs), you have the working area (downtown) and the consumption centers (strip malls). Everything perfectly designed through planned artificiality. The city center is lifeless because people only go there to work. No proper boroughs with places to stroll around, children to play or neighbourhood shops and cafés. You just work, and then sit at home all day and consoom. All the while thinking that having a shitty little house and a shitty little yard and a shitty little car means freedom.
No untouched nature close by. No organically developed city. No history to the place you live. You just work and consume, work and consume, and eventually get addicted to opioids because hard drugs are the only way to make your existence bearable.

That is the tragedy of the american city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 13:00:22 No.1558781 Report

Quoted By: >>1558824 >>1558881

>>1558774
it's because of red scare paranoia actually, we fucked our cities because we were afraid of russian bombers dropping a single nuke in the centers of our cities and obliterating everything. little did we know how easy it was to just build MIRVs

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 13:13:32 No.1558795 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558769
looks like the kind of place where you get stopped by the police for walking to the store. isnt' texas the place that made viral news because a guy walked to work every day and that was so horrifying to the community that they banded together and bought him a cage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 14:04:14 No.1558823 Report

Quoted By: >>1558890 >>1558969

>>1558774
>The city center is lifeless because people only go there to work.
Yeah, in the '80s and '90s, gramps

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 14:07:07 No.1558824 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558781
>MIRVs
If you look at it that way yeah, but USSR had to fabricate, deploy, and commit more warheads to destroy the same target. It was a legit strategy for the US, although not without its drawbacks ofc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 14:39:05 No.1558840 Report

Quoted By: >>1558841 >>1558854 >>1558880

>>1558760
The worst part is that Swiss zoning is absolute trash. Sure there are a couple towns with mid rise buildings, but 90% of the country is single-family homes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 14:40:02 No.1558841 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558840
Why is that a problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 15:05:57 No.1558854 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558840
no, 90% of the country is not single family homes, please stop pulling numbers out of your ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 15:45:00 No.1558880 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558840
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 15:46:38 No.1558881 Report

Quoted By: >>1559342

>>1558781
Reasons that boomeranons think american cities were destroyed
>niggers
>red scare
>auto industry
>capitalism
>communism

Actual reason why American cities were destroyed:
>jews

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 16:02:21 No.1558886 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558737
BASED tramposter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 16:09:43 No.1558889 Report

Quoted By: >>1558900

>>1558767
>51km "light rail" line
>9 stops
What the fuck? Why doesn't it stop at the tons of residential neighbourhoods it goes past?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 16:13:10 No.1558890 Report

Quoted By: >>1558950 >>1559070

>>1558823
Cities in the US south still are like that, northern and western cities are somewhat changing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 17:16:41 No.1558899 Report

Quoted By: >>1560644

>>1558771
That's a result of NIMBYism decades ago. Austin's highway system is garbage, and not laid out well like San Antonio, Dallas, Fort Worth, or Houston. The only city in Texas with worse highways is El Paso, and El Paso is stuck in between a mountain and the border.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 17:20:03 No.1558900 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558889
It's meant as a commuter service, but it still could have a bunch of stops without losing too much commercial speed, seeing as it's operayed with light DMUs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 18:12:34 No.1558923 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558420
Cheap brick Jew york style apartment buildings are my jam.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 18:20:19 No.1558925 Report

Quoted By: >>1558932 >>1558969 >>1560644

Urban planning? We don't need roads at sea

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 18:40:31 No.1558932 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558925
Put enough of those together ans you will.

Also, we've played this game already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 19:01:58 No.1558934 Report

Quoted By: >>1559939

>>1558344
Yah fuck being in chicago in those months. Its a frozen salted misery pit without even the ocean or all the cool stuff nyc does for the holidays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 19:54:23 No.1558950 Report

Quoted By: >>1559026

>>1558890
No they're not grandpa

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 20:36:13 No.1558969 Report

Quoted By: >>1558982

>>1558823
I think you're wrong. I can confirm what the other guy said is true for many cities in Florida: they're lifeless except for things oriented to foreign tourists.
>>1558925
What are you even viewing out the window down there? This idea's terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 21:01:54 No.1558982 Report

Quoted By: >>1558991 >>1559028

>>1558969
>What are you even viewing out the window down there
plants, animals, staring off into the distance; exactly the same concept as windows on land, but you get to see unusual types of aquatic scenery you don't usually see. going to aquariums is very popular, people pay to see them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 21:20:36 No.1558991 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558982
>you get to see unusual types of aquatic scenery you don't usually see
Well, that won't last for long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 21:51:46 No.1559009 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558759
Frankfurt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 22:31:35 No.1559026 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558950
Yes they are, go do your 9th grade algebra homework.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 22:34:20 No.1559028 Report

Quoted By: >>1559042

>>1558982
That far deep would be fairly dark and you'd not really be able to see much. People really overestimate how far down sunlight can penetrate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 22:58:04 No.1559042 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559028
true for the sea-ward windows, but the design is supposed to let sunlight down through the center-facing windows. so there's that, at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 00:01:42 No.1559070 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558890
Southern cities are changing quite a lot.
Atlanta, Nashville, Charlotte, even Birmingham all have a lot of investment in the city center.

Same for Dallas, Houston and Austin. They’re getting a ton of development.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:15:36 No.1559328 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558525
>>1558593
No, you don’t get it. The future is a horrid dystopian hellscape by design, and we’re progressing towards that future very quickly.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:24:07 No.1559330 Report

Quoted By: >>1559333 >>1559458 >>1559495 >>1559498 >>1559554

Apparently US Americans cannot into good city planing. Pic very related.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:30:12 No.1559333 Report

Quoted By: >>1559360

>>1559330
>Sidney
>Copenaghen
getting pretty obscure there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:36:23 No.1559336 Report

Quoted By: >>1559341 >>1559497 >>1559587 >>1561025

>>1558455
>>1558727
>cagers
Forgive my ignorance of your terminology, but it seems like you’re suggesting that the suburbs are cages when compared to urban areas. Is that accurate? It sounds like a counterintuitive statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:41:50 No.1559338 Report

Quoted By: >>1559355 >>1560665

>>1558756
>A 2014 University of Texas study stated that Austin was the only U.S. city with a fast growth rate between 2000 and 2010 with a net loss in African Americans
What’s their secret, bros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:48:13 No.1559340 Report

Quoted By: >>1560436

>>1558774
The tragedy of American cities is that they are packed full of non-Americans who despise America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:49:20 No.1559341 Report

Quoted By: >>1559344

>>1559336
Cager is a derogatory term for someone who drives a car.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:50:00 No.1559342 Report

Quoted By: >>1559499 >>1559540

>>1558881
Jews brought the niggers so you really can’t separate those two, and they’re presently bringing in the additional tribes of invaders as well, so that all ties together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:53:10 No.1559344 Report

Quoted By: >>1559347

>>1559341
>derogatory term for someone who drives a car
As opposed to walking or cycling? Or as opposed to bigger cages known as mass transit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:57:50 No.1559347 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559344
Originally as opposed to riding a motorcycle. Then cyclists, at least here on /n/, adopted the use, because many feel that cars and their drivers are antagonists. Then it's spread from there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 15:15:46 No.1559355 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559338
Gentrification. Keep building luxury urban infill and push the undesirables out.
The problem is other cities make “affordable housing requirements” that kill development and keep the city from improving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 15:34:16 No.1559360 Report

Quoted By: >>1559365

>>1559333
Why, they clearly offer a better quality of life than any major city in the US.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 15:38:10 No.1559365 Report

Quoted By: >>1559367

>>1559360
what country is Sidney in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 15:40:58 No.1559367 Report

Quoted By: >>1559475

>>1559365
that's what happens when you take the intern to transcribe the list...

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 18:44:28 No.1559458 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559330
>every city is either white or Japanese

What are you trying to say here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 19:24:51 No.1559475 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559367
Could have been due to the writer not being Anglo. Copenaghen is the Polish spelling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 19:44:34 No.1559495 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559330
>global vileability
sounds pretty negative to me

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 19:46:02 No.1559497 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559336
first day?

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 19:47:33 No.1559498 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559330
The fewer US cities there are on that list, the better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 19:47:45 No.1559499 Report

Quoted By: >>1559544

>>1559342
>Jews brought the niggers
Goldberg's Georgia cotton plantation was not a thing.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 21:50:32 No.1559540 Report

Quoted By: >>1559750

>>1559342
lmao kike jannies deleted my post

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 21:56:01 No.1559544 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559499
I don't think that's what he's saying

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 22:21:11 No.1559554 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559330
Boston and San Francisco definitely don't belong on the list.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 23:31:20 No.1559587 Report

Quoted By: >>1559620 >>1559629

>>1559336
Car dependency sucks dude. I love riding my Honda on the open road, but i hate traffic and needing to find parking. I would rather live in a place where i can walk for everything and use my car for trips/nature/hauling goods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 23:41:01 No.1559591 Report

Quoted By: >>1559596

I lived in Brooklyn for a while but I never got a chance to visit Jersey City. I should've checked it out.
I hope they don't start putting affordable housing requirements everywhere though, that shit is killing NYC.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 00:09:05 No.1559596 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559591
There's nothing to check out in Jersey City, it's just a bedroom community. My office is in downtown Jersey City so that's convenient but for leisure I always cross the Hudson because there's nothing fun in JC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 01:30:30 No.1559620 Report

Quoted By: >>1560431

>>1559587
I don't give a shit about your life. Making you feel better isn't my nor the government's problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 01:50:52 No.1559629 Report

Quoted By: >>1559663

>>1559587
Same. Most Americans feel the same way, which is why housing in walkable areas commands a much higher value.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 03:14:19 No.1559663 Report

Quoted By: >>1559674

>>1559629
>housing in walkable areas commands a much higher value
Correlation doesn't equal causation

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 03:24:46 No.1559674 Report

Quoted By: >>1559677 >>1559687

>>1559663
Yes it does in this case you cock-for-brains retard, if you took the dick out of your mouth for one fucking second you'd be able to see that walkability has a causal positive effect on house prices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 03:26:28 No.1559677 Report

Quoted By: >>1559685 >>1560437

>>1559674
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 03:37:50 No.1559685 Report

Quoted By: >>1559711 >>1561124 >>1561142

>>1559677
Not that guy but I work in real estate. Everyone in real estate accepts that walkability adds value to a house.
Since you need to be spoon fed there are a lot of studies.

https://www.nar.realtor/on-common-ground/research-shows-that-walkability-adds-value

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 03:39:17 No.1559687 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559674
Could easily be a correlation attributed to shorter commute times, rather than walkability of the neighborhood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 03:39:33 No.1559688 Report

Quoted By: >>1559711

Transit’s also good for property values.

https://www.smartcitiesdive.com/news/property-values-thrive-near-transit-study-finds/564982/

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 03:49:23 No.1559693 Report

Quoted By: >>1559704 >>1559708 >>1560440 >>1560665

More "cheap housing being built to accommodate joggers and tuskan raiders, who both respectively kill each other and rape anybody who passes by.
Worsening public transit, the rats are well fed though.
To top it all off, a few of the cultured lads who immigrated here from Eastern Europe are huffing computer cleaner outside my flat.
Oh, and I can't forget about the commie blocks. They look lovely in the light of the dawn, and make me think merrily about where this shithole of a country will be in 1 years.
Can you guess where I'm from?
You won't be able to in 100 years, a wonderful indictment of globalisation.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 04:12:10 No.1559704 Report

Quoted By: >>1560798

>>1559693
That’s sad, your country should be building traditional styles.
Because traditionalism=urbanism=local identity and pride.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 04:20:32 No.1559708 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559693
Imagine not huffing computer cleaner with the Slavic lads

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 04:24:30 No.1559711 Report

Quoted By: >>1559751

>>1559685
>Not that guy
Yes you are.

>but I work in real estate.
Not impressive in the slightest

>Everyone in real estate accepts that walkability adds value to a house.
Even agrees on a very broadly defined word? Cool!

>Since you need to be spoon fed there are a lot of studies.
Thanks for the link to a single "study" by a national lobbying organization. The "expert" called Buckhead in Atlanta 'Bucktown' lol

>>1559688
>Cheerleading for government intervention that makes housing even more unaffordable
Good move anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 04:33:31 No.1559713 Report

Quoted By: >>1559716 >>1559717 >>1559727

This cagetroll thinks that there’s only one person who disagrees with him.

Lol

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 04:37:53 No.1559716 Report

Quoted By: >>1559720 >>1559727

>>1559713
He's the same schizo who thinks everyone here is a Chinese developer. It's an amazing look into a brain that's been stunted by years of auto emissions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 04:38:57 No.1559717 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559713
How much did you get paid for that shitpost, Wu Li?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 04:40:05 No.1559720 Report

Quoted By: >>1559727

>>1559716
Lol
We always get one very dedicated cagetroll at a time. Then over time their mental state deteriorates and they become a caricature of themselves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 04:46:59 No.1559724 Report

Quoted By: >>1559727 >>1559835 >>1559837 >>1559872 >>1560665 >>1561209

A big mixed-use project in Lincoln heights LA survived a NIMBY appeal to block it. City council allowed it.
3 buildings 4-5 stories.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 04:57:08 No.1559727 Report

Quoted By: >>1559737

>>1559713
>>1559716
>>1559720
How many social credits did you receive for making these?

>>1559724
Ah another shill/bot post: a short, low-info description about a development no one cares about with no link for further information, not even the fucking name of the place. Just filler material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 05:26:29 No.1559737 Report

Quoted By: >>1559740

>>1559727
>not even the fucking name of the place
It's in the title of the picture, I found multiple articles when I googled it.

Your posts have a needlessly aggressive tone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 05:39:52 No.1559740 Report

Quoted By: >>1560101

>>1559737
>It's in the title of the picture, I found multiple articles when I googled it.
Why did you post it then? This is an urban planning thread, all you do is post renderings of forgettable projects, some text about NIMBYs, and nothing else of substance

>Your posts have a needlessly aggressive tone
Did I strike a nerve? I am sorry to have caused great embarrassment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 06:40:15 No.1559750 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559540
>he does it for free

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 06:42:52 No.1559751 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559711
>our residential areas should look like shit so that housing stays cheap
Go on

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 12:40:46 No.1559833 Report

Quoted By: >>1559867

Obligatory weaboo post below:

Kitahama Tower. One of Japan's tallest condominiums, 54 levels. In my country, a tower like this would be twice as tall and not have a single shop at it's base. The Kitahama has men's and women's hairdressers, an Italian wine shop, pharmacy, boutique clothing shops, restaurants, A FUCKING TRAIN STATION ENTRANCE and a convenience store. It's so fucking mixed use I'm gonna COOOOOOOOOOM

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 12:44:11 No.1559835 Report

Quoted By: >>1559841 >>1559879 >>1559894

>>1559724
Are we... sure these aren't industrial warehouses that got hastily turned into accommodation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 12:57:11 No.1559837 Report

Quoted By: >>1559841 >>1559879

>>1559724
Looks like shit desu. American architecture is absolutely awful now, what an embarrassment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 13:02:51 No.1559838 Report

Quoted By: >>1559880

>>1558365
was it citizens of the canton or just the city proper that voted? Because i can understand the conservative's quip about traffic. It's already nightmarish around the station and city's entrances despite most of the canton dwellers using the S-bahn to get around.

They can fuck off about the parking space tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 13:11:07 No.1559840 Report

Quoted By:

In Austin we’re expanding bike lanes. Also voting on a light rail expansion next month. The vote is expected to go through in favor of he expansion.

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200914/pandemic-inspired-bike-lanes-on-congress-ave-to-be-made-permanent

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 13:12:50 No.1559841 Report

Quoted By: >>1559873 >>1559879

>>1559835
>>1559837
My impression is that it’s a rough pre-rendering and it will probably be slightly different irl. That’s common for renderings at the super early stages of development when they’re just providing a rough guide of what the building will be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 14:18:14 No.1559867 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559833
Based
Wonder what that building is next to it under construction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 14:26:25 No.1559872 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559724
Oof

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 14:28:09 No.1559873 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559841
Sadly all of these end up looking way worse than the rendering when they’re done

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 14:33:55 No.1559876 Report

Quoted By: >>1559877 >>1559931

Mid-rise

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 14:34:58 No.1559877 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559876
Single-family

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 14:35:43 No.1559879 Report

Quoted By: >>1559889

>>1559841
>>1559835
>>1559837
Modern society has forgotten how to build beautiful things

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 14:39:11 No.1559880 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559838
just the city, and the cycling roads are built on municipal ground only.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 14:52:52 No.1559885 Report

Quoted By: >>1559931 >>1559980

Despite the pandemic, Chicago is building another skyscraper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 14:55:20 No.1559889 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559879
Modern North American society*. I still see some nice looking construction in Europe and Asia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 14:56:39 No.1559894 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559835
They’re replacing an industrial warehouse actually.
Includes 1.5 acres of publicly-accessible land and 240 trees.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 15:06:05 No.1559898 Report

Quoted By: >>1559931 >>1560690

They built this one in Zurich in an alley that used to be skid row 2 years ago. Not bad as far as modern architecture goes and it has a park and a yard.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 15:55:41 No.1559913 Report

Quoted By: >>1559931

Fireproof, durable, affordable and, dareisay, aesthetic.
Is cross-laminated timber the solution for building better urban infill?
Not to mention it's much more eco-friendly than concrete.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 16:53:12 No.1559931 Report

Quoted By: >>1559941

>>1559885
>>1559898
>>1559913
See:

>>1559876

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 17:10:41 No.1559939 Report

Quoted By: >>1560987

>>1558934
>all the cool stuff nyc does for the holidays.
Wrong. Christmas in chicago, new york for new years

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 17:16:48 No.1559941 Report

Quoted By: >>1560051

>>1559931
Anon, you're very alone with your American suburbia nightmare. European cities just take the cake when it comes to quality of life and that includes sensible apartment housing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 17:29:29 No.1559944 Report

Quoted By: >>1559980

I always like stopping by this thread and seeing all the new infill going up in Sunbelt cities. It's a huge turnaround from the last few decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 18:30:52 No.1559980 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559885
Not even a name or description. Just a placeholder

>>1559944
>I always like stopping by this thread
Spoken like a true Chinaman

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 18:49:59 No.1560001 Report

Quoted By: >>1560003

The RLB Crane Index tracks the number of operating construction cranes in 14 North American cities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 18:51:07 No.1560003 Report

Quoted By: >>1560007

>>1560001
>Toronto
You definitely see it, I took a trip to the islands yesterday and the skyline is full of cranes.

>Auburn
Wtf?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 18:53:25 No.1560005 Report

Quoted By: >>1560020

In Nashville we have a shitton of new projects. Lots of condos/apartments near the downtown.

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/maps/nashville-crane-watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 18:54:29 No.1560007 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560003
My friend sent me that image, he went to architecture school there.
Now he's working for a developer that does mostly historic renovations in the South.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 19:23:33 No.1560020 Report

Quoted By: >>1560023 >>1560042 >>1560071

>>1560005
I'm happy for them, but it sucks their planned rail network got Kochblocked. Better build it now while it's cheaper and they can grow into it than have to scramble to do it later at higher cost because they already built over all the planned ROW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 19:31:14 No.1560023 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560020
True, but at least now we’ll have a ton of funding for future transit/infra upgrades. We built our first protected bike lanes this year and hopefully we’ll see more as more people move in town.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 20:22:20 No.1560042 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560020
If it was like any other public rail project it was overpriced and unwelcome in many areas

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 20:44:21 No.1560051 Report

Quoted By: >>1560443

>>1559941
52% of Americans live in suburbs. Clearly they do this because it’s worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 21:35:02 No.1560071 Report

Quoted By: >>1560072 >>1560085 >>1560244

>>1560020
I’m surprised the Kochs haven’t shilled against the Austin light rail. But it’s so strongly projected to pass that they might be wasting their time.

https://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2020-09-25/will-the-third-time-be-a-charm-for-an-austin-rail-system/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 21:36:49 No.1560072 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560071
>the Kochs
You know there's only one of them, right?

This is at least the third time you've been told this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 21:59:03 No.1560085 Report

Quoted By: >>1560086

>>1560071
Austin's listed as having some of the worst traffic in the US and after the Phoenix fiasco it just generated a lot of bad publicity for Koch Industries and AfP so they probably didn't bother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 22:00:49 No.1560086 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560085
You realize you're mostly alone in your insane rage against Koch Industries, right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 22:08:36 No.1560087 Report

Quoted By: >>1560095 >>1562703

Lol I forgot that Koch is a trigger word for the cagetrolls.

Per the article linked above:
>There could yet be more actors entering the fray. In particular, transit supporters anticipate the involvement of the Koch network, which has spent heavily to oppose transit initiatives in cities across the country. Most notably, the Koch-funded Americans for Prosperity played a key role in defeating an ambitious transit referendum in Nashville last year. "I'm operating under the assumption that we're running against the Republicans and the Koch network," says Mykle Tomlinson.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 22:28:53 No.1560095 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560087
>Telling everyone what they already knew
Brave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 22:41:07 No.1560101 Report

Quoted By: >>1560133

>>1559740
>Why did you post it then?
I didn't, not everyone in this thread is the same person. You shouldn't assume someone you're replying to is the same, unless they have a tripcode. Have you ever considered a trip?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 22:52:25 No.1560106 Report

Quoted By: >>1560122

>I didn't
Yes you did, Ping Ping

>not everyone in this thread is the same person. You shouldn't assume someone you're replying to is the same
I guess I hadn't considered there was more than one Chinaman shilling, Ling Ling

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 23:57:28 No.1560122 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560106
you're fucking deranged my dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 00:34:34 No.1560133 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560101
>I didn't
Yes you did

>not everyone in this thread is the same person. You shouldn't assume someone you're replying to is the same
Ping, tell Ling and Ming their shilling sucks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 04:08:10 No.1560240 Report

Quoted By: >>1560277 >>1560283 >>1560399 >>1560413 >>1560414 >>1560419 >>1560672

Thoughts on "parking-protected bike lanes"?

We're building them around Miami.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 04:18:08 No.1560244 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560071

Austin really ducked itself over by not planning for freeway expansions and green belts like houston did. Easily could not have traffic problems.

Regardless, I hope they don't make their system at grade with no rightaways. Houston's light rail is a joke for this reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 04:50:10 No.1560266 Report

Quoted By: >>1560268

>>1558500
Fair enough but MCI is horse ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 04:52:08 No.1560268 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560266
Yeah but they're building a new terminal I think

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 05:09:04 No.1560277 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560240
Interesting, not sure I've ever seen that. What do normal people think of them? How do cyclists like them? Has there been a decrease in cyclist/auto accidents? Has there been an increase in traffic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 05:20:51 No.1560283 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560240
I live near some in the Chicagoland area, I like them for two main reasons.
1) Parked cars keep you from getting merged into/being close passed for no good reason/being killed by texting idiots for more of your ride than not having it
2) Instead of cars drivers-side door opening into the bike lane, it is the passenger side. And since this is Amurrica, plenty of people make trips without passengers, so I have to dodge significantly fewer doors.
Traffic is not any differently affected than if they had a bike lane put in between the street and parking, it's just a different way around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 12:23:41 No.1560399 Report

Quoted By: >>1560680

>>1560240
Outside of fully separated bike lanes, this is the proper way to do it in cagerland. The other way around, the bicyclist is the buffer between traffic and parked cars. This way, the buffer is the parked cars, much safer for those on bikes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 13:52:05 No.1560413 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560240
Hate them. You ride in the gutter. I just still ride in the road.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 13:53:22 No.1560414 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560240
Oh and somehow every single time I do end up riding in these the UPS man is stacking boxes blocking the entire lane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 14:19:18 No.1560419 Report

Quoted By: >>1560428 >>1560449

>>1560240
Bad fro dismounting passengers of cars and public transit. They need to dodge cyclists who don't obey or honor traffic rules.

Actually there is no way to combine cars, cyclists and pedestrians in safe and comfortable manner on single level road.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 14:24:10 No.1560425 Report

Quoted By: >>1560557 >>1560590 >>1560596

Atlanta development has been crazy the last several years. We used to have a lot of separate buildings getting built, but lately the trend is to build entire neighborhoods or mega-projects.
Probably because the city is poorly connected with highways running through it. OTOH the "whole neighborhood development" thing can be very nice.

https://atlanta.curbed.com/atlanta-development/2020/1/7/21052178/atlanta-development-construction-projects-2020-fort-mac-dunwoody-beltline

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 14:30:18 No.1560428 Report

Quoted By: >>1560447

>>1560419
There is, the Netherlands does it, but they're a first-world country so I understand why America couldn't do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 14:51:39 No.1560431 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559620
So get rid of gov mandated single family zoning faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 15:10:30 No.1560434 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558344
>Isn't Chicago frozen from october to may?
only if you're a bitch
t.duluth

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 15:15:45 No.1560435 Report

Quoted By: >>1560557

>>1558482
the mississippi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 15:19:47 No.1560436 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559340
that's cuz all the whites fled to the suburbs and handed the core of civilization to the jews.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 15:22:01 No.1560437 Report

Quoted By: >>1560557

>>1559677
themarket.realestate

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 15:24:49 No.1560440 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559693
thank you based boomers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 15:28:06 No.1560443 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560051
we all know us americans make good choices

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 15:52:32 No.1560447 Report

Quoted By: >>1560448

>>1560428
Nope. With 2 modes of transportation you end with them merging through each other. Bad. Can't be solved on single plain. Single mode can dismount passengers through road- sidewalk border without transport crossing this border.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 15:55:14 No.1560448 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560447
I don't consider posts from third-worlders as serious, sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 16:00:10 No.1560449 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560419
>Actually there is no way to combine cars, cyclists and pedestrians in safe and comfortable manner on single level road
>what are bollards

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 16:06:01 No.1560450 Report

Quoted By: >>1560494 >>1560500

>>1558774
>You just work, and then sit at home all day and consoom
Implying people had it better in medival city.
>Locked incide walls
> Commuting from house to market place pushing hand cart full of goods in any weather
> Only public places are churches (wew) and taverns
> No parks
>Fields and plains outside town are too far to travel on foot
>they belong to fuedal and ist illegal to enter them
>only people having fun are aristocratic men who don't work and ride horses on the streets showering working class people with horse shit and dirt from under the hooves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 18:11:45 No.1560494 Report

Quoted By: >>1560739

>>1560450
>>they belong to fuedal and ist illegal to enter them
who do you think did all the farming?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 18:43:27 No.1560500 Report

Quoted By: >>1560542

>>1560450
Medieval towns had nice public spaces and a sense of community and identity. Something you don't get with sprawl.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 20:55:34 No.1560542 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560500
It’s really easy to go overboard though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 21:40:04 No.1560557 Report

Quoted By: >>1560564

>>1560425
Why do you care what's happening in Atlanta, Wang? Looks like shit too. Soulless as hell, perfect for the type of people who will inhabit it.

>>1560435
>Oh the water's muddy that means it's polluted
Smart

>>1560437
The shill got overloaded lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 21:43:30 No.1560559 Report

Quoted By: >>1560561

The schizo spammer’s back...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 21:44:14 No.1560561 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560559
Triggered

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 21:49:29 No.1560564 Report

Quoted By: >>1560585

>>1560557
>Oh the water's muddy that means it's polluted
i mean if you lived here you would know they pull bodies, cars, fridges, you name it out of the river fairly regularly so yeah it's pretty polluted.
not to mention the mercury warnings from the 3M plant.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 22:07:24 No.1560578 Report

Quoted By: >>1560619 >>1560646

How can one city be so comfy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 22:15:17 No.1560585 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560564
>so yeah it's pretty polluted.
Not really. Still safe to swim in. You wouldn't want to drink it but that goes for most rivers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 22:25:45 No.1560590 Report

Quoted By: >>1560607

>>1560425
Always blows my mind how much new construction I see when I visit atlanta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 22:41:08 No.1560596 Report

Quoted By: >>1560607

>>1560425
That’s great. Nothing better than seeing new development and investment in places where it’s needed and welcomed, as opposed to places where nobody wants it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 23:17:10 No.1560607 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560590
>>1560596
More low-effort, no-info samefagging posts from our resident shill

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 23:45:01 No.1560619 Report

Quoted By: >>1560628

>>1560578
>residential street can fit 9 cars side by side
>comfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:07:44 No.1560628 Report

Quoted By: >>1560634

>>1560619
That appears to be a two lane street with curb parking (guessing that b/c there is only one stop lane/marking at the intersections)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:33:48 No.1560634 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560628
Why do you need all of that space for two lanes? You could get away with half that space and still have room for street parking on both sides while giving peds some fucking breathing room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:05:11 No.1560644 Report

Quoted By:

You Swiss boys are making me jelly

>>1558450
>No one wants to live in cramped hellholes with rampaging wildlife.
>rampaging wildlife
Is this a dysphemism for black people?

>>1558899
>El Paso is stuck in between a mountain and the border
Don't forget the military bases

>>1558925
The person who created this has never taken a physics course

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:06:11 No.1560646 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560578
Desperately needs a median. Ped fatality waiting to happen.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:54:28 No.1560665 Report

Quoted By: >>1560949

>>1559338
>net loss in African Americans
The "secret" is a net increase in the Hispanic/Latino category

>>1559693
Made me giggle

>>1559724
Is this sponsored by T-Mobile?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:22:33 No.1560672 Report

Quoted By: >>1560673 >>1560918

>>1560240
>parking-protected bike lanes
In my experience, this design is worse than having no bike-specific infrastructure. The insidious thing is that it offers the illusion of safety, making casual cyclists are more likely to use it, despite it being more dangerous.

Two problems happen at connections to side streets, alleys, driveways, etc. The first is the classic right hook--drivers making 'blind' right hand turns across the bike lane, unable to see the cyclist hidden behind a wall of SUVs.

The second is drivers pulling past the stop sign, to the edge of the parked cars, then coming to a stop, waiting to merge on to the road w/ the bike lane. To be clear, "pulling past the stop sign" means "ignoring the stop sign, and coming to a stop 20ft past the sign" because that's the convenient spot to check for oncoming traffic. The pic is to help illustrate this--pink line is where the stop sign is, the blue line is where drivers actually stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:25:22 No.1560673 Report

Quoted By: >>1560680

>>1560672
>To be clear, "pulling past the stop sign" means "ignoring the stop sign, and coming to a stop 20ft past the sign" because that's the convenient spot to check for oncoming traffic

Tough shit most stop signs are set too far back to have a good line of sight on intersecting traffic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:48:24 No.1560680 Report

Quoted By: >>1560696 >>1560888

>>1560399
>Outside of fully separated bike lanes, this is the proper way to do it in cagerland
Not exactly.
The proper thing would be for cities to stop subsidizing the auto habit by offering "free" on-street parking.
Such a thing is not likely to happen in the US, so additional measures like curb extensions/bulb-outs are required for safe parking-protected bike lanes.

>>1560673
>most stop signs are set too far back
Except they're not, tough guy. The white circle in front of the parked cars is a concrete island, to prevent parked vehicles from obscuring the line of sight. Pulling too far forward is just another bad habit too many cagers indulge in. You see it everyday at stop signs and traffic signals.
I would explain the green line, but you're smart enough to figure it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 03:29:25 No.1560689 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558359
Why doesn't the artist's depiction show the homeless?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 03:38:40 No.1560690 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559898
Zurich has a skid row?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 03:53:53 No.1560696 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560680
>Except they're not, tough guy.
Yes they are, hence why people do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 05:49:21 No.1560739 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560494
Peasants who tended fuedal land. Peasants didn't live in towns.
You couldn't enter fuedal land without fuedal permission. Fuedal could even collect taxes for privelege of travelling over his land roads or outright ban your travel, universal right to travel didn't existed until absolute monarchy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 07:48:02 No.1560761 Report

Quoted By: >>1560765 >>1560919

I know people prefer light rail over BRT, but I'd rather Houston put up a bunch of cheaper BRT routes instead a handful of expensive light rail. The metro is big, but most people are stuck with a cage or regular bus aside from a lucky few who live or work near one of the few light rail lines. I feel like we're caught between the oil lobby and trainfags, with neither serving the area's best interests. Hopefully with the completion of the first BRT (pic related), we'll see a change for the better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 08:05:30 No.1560765 Report

Quoted By: >>1560770

>>1560761
It would be really nice if they kept the grass strip in the middle of the bus lanes but I 100% guarantee they would omit that in reality

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 08:21:45 No.1560770 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560765
You're right, it was removed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 09:35:35 No.1560798 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559704
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 13:34:30 No.1560888 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560680
>The proper thing would be for cities to stop subsidizing the auto habit by offering "free" on-street parking
No argument there, but, mind you, not all on-street parking is free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 15:30:46 No.1560918 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560672
I use parking-protected bike lanes all the time in New York and vastly prefer it to riding in the street.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 15:32:23 No.1560919 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560761
I hear ya. But Houston's getting a ton of infill and growing a lot so you can afford to do both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 17:00:56 No.1560949 Report

Quoted By: >>1560952

>>1560665
I feel like alot of these cities are alot whiter than the stats lead on, i know so many hipsters in places like brooklyn who live 5 to an apartment and dont drive, so they are never counted in the census

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 17:09:55 No.1560952 Report

Quoted By: >>1561036

>>1560949
Are you implying that only drivers count in the census or only people who live less than 5 to an apartment are?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 18:16:47 No.1560974 Report

Quoted By: >>1560975 >>1560983 >>1561088 >>1561212

100 apartments going up on Santa Monica Blvd, replacing a car wash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 18:18:36 No.1560975 Report

Quoted By: >>1560979

>>1560974
>a fucking car wash taking up as much space as 100 apartments in the first place
You can put that shit in the corner of a gas station.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 18:27:12 No.1560979 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560975
Yeah it was a huge site.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 18:43:12 No.1560983 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560974
A lot of industrial property in California is being rezoned lately for multi unit residential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 18:54:43 No.1560987 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559939
>new york for new years
>being corralled in times square for hours to see a stupid ball drop
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 19:18:43 No.1561003 Report

Quoted By:

>>1557912
>basic planning and development is a Chinese conspiracy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 19:19:58 No.1561006 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558082
I think that's the ideal. Then, it's your personal choice to drive and not a requirement for basic daily living.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 19:35:40 No.1561011 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558403
This is a good assessment of the issues in a city like Baltimore, which has a shitload of vacant homes that can't be torn down because technically, someone owns the property for purely speculatory reasons.

The irony of this all is that since so many people are speculating that the property will improve and they can sell it for profit, the neighborhood never improves and the property remains worthless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 19:38:27 No.1561013 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558420
Needs more parks and open space. Dense buildings are fine but you need some greenery

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 19:49:22 No.1561016 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558433
Parks are some of the nicest features of cities and make urban living even better. In a way, they're another form of necessary infrastructure that allows people a space to be outside and not in someone's private space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 19:53:37 No.1561019 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558446
Strongtowns leans conservative, and they are pro urbanism/walkability. Not every fiscal or even social conservative is a boomer neocon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 19:54:48 No.1561020 Report

Quoted By: >>1561027

>>1558437
>>1558442
In the case of San Francisco, all those houses could be upzoned and built much larger. In the case of Manhattan, it still has managed to fit nearly 2 million people on a single island, dwarfing San Francisco.

The demand is high, so the price is going to be high as well. That's why you need housing that's not subject to market forces, like public housing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 19:58:33 No.1561021 Report

Quoted By: >>1561026

>>1558593
You can house homeless people. That's a solvable problem.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 20:03:23 No.1561023 Report

Quoted By:

>>1558769
It's a start. You can always take lanes away, or go full Madison and just make it into a pedestrian mall

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 20:08:21 No.1561025 Report

Quoted By:

>>1559336
Your whole life revolves around cars in the suburbs. You have no choice in the matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 20:14:42 No.1561026 Report

Quoted By: >>1561034

>>1561021
Sure, the only way to do it is new construction mid-rise in city centers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 20:18:54 No.1561027 Report

Quoted By: >>1561035

>>1561020
Why is it that housing costs simply HAVE to be cheap? certain areas are always going to be more desirable and therefore more expensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 20:34:57 No.1561034 Report

Quoted By: >>1561043 >>1561050 >>1561285

>>1561026
>hobos and niggers get a very centrally located place close to bars, offices and stuff available in big cities with short commute times
>professionals and families have to live 1 hour away from everything and endure long commute times/traffic jams
Why is America planned the other way around? That makes no fucking sense at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 20:35:46 No.1561035 Report

Quoted By:

>>1561027
Not everything needs to be subject to the market. Prices are fickle and subject to seemingly random changes, which isn't good for renters. Even hyper capitalistic cities like Hong Kong and Singapore have robust public housing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 20:36:06 No.1561036 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560952
If you sublet and don't drive and do "artwork" for employment, you really dont have to change your residency. I knew plenty of hipsters who still had ids from from ohio or florida

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 20:48:28 No.1561043 Report

Quoted By: >>1561048

>>1561034
I think a great solution would be to get rid of every single family home, BUT with the option to keep your home if the government can put a standard issue shipping container style ADU on your property that an unhoused person can live in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:05:27 No.1561048 Report

Quoted By: >>1561051

>>1561043
That doesn't answer the question. Why did such a retarded thing happen in the first place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:06:56 No.1561050 Report

Quoted By: >>1561065 >>1561066

>>1561034
Professionals and families aren't forced to live in suburbs, they choose to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:08:34 No.1561051 Report

Quoted By: >>1561065

>>1561048
Sorry I was just voicing my thoughts. I think the reason these places need to be built is when unhoused people join back in the workforce single family homes are too expensive for them, so we have to build condos for them. They need to be in the city center because they won’t have things like a car to drive places.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:28:52 No.1561065 Report

Quoted By: >>1561070 >>1561074

>>1561050
Yes, they chose to live very far from their jobs and the places they have to go to every day because they're full of hobos. I know that much.
What I don't understand is what kind of societal pressure pushed more wealthy people to willingly inconvenience themselves. In literally any country I can think of, all the niggers have to live in cheap houses in the outskirts of the city because fucking obviously a house that is located closer to everything is valued higher than some shanty in the middle of nowhere. Like, come on, it makes absolutely no sense for a house in Shibuya to be cheaper than one in Adachi.

>>1561051
This makes a bit more sense, though public transportation still exists, even in the US.
>b-but it's so unreliable
So is Latin America's and poor people have to wake up at 4am to get to their offices on time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:31:28 No.1561066 Report

Quoted By:

>>1561050
Not always the case. In some suburbs, the cost of housing is sometimes cheaper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:33:07 No.1561070 Report

Quoted By: >>1561076 >>1561077 >>1561146

>>1561065
In American real estate, walkability and convenience adds a lot of value to a house.
And in the last 10 years we’ve had a big turnaround in development; people are building a lot of luxury housing in the city centers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:36:20 No.1561074 Report

Quoted By:

>>1561065
Sadly though housing them is the easy part, getting them to work again is extremely difficult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:38:49 No.1561076 Report

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>>1561070
So does single family homes though. Almost all of the most expensive and therefore desirable cities in the US like San Francisco and LA combine relatively dense cities with single family homes. Some would call it the perfect balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:39:34 No.1561077 Report

Quoted By: >>1561124

>>1561070
>American real estate
>walkability
not that guy but fucking lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:56:01 No.1561088 Report

Quoted By: >>1561090

>>1560974
>replacing a car wash
winning.
I could do without the ugly "decorations" though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:59:56 No.1561090 Report

Quoted By: >>1561094

>>1561088
It’s unironically based that amazon is killing mom and pop businesses and restaurants are starting to go delivery only with ghost kitchens because in the coming years it’ll free up a lot more commercial real estate that can be turned into more housing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 22:10:57 No.1561094 Report

Quoted By: >>1561096

>>1561090
>we need more mixed used buildings!!
>nooo you can't just have mixed use buildings!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 22:15:09 No.1561096 Report

Quoted By: >>1561107

>>1561094
Honestly what's the point of mixed-use anyways? It's just a buzzword used to make new developments sound better to investors. We need more homes, not more businesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 22:26:17 No.1561107 Report

Quoted By: >>1561109

>>1561096
but nearby businesses make the housing attractive to tenants. not having to drive to buy food etc means no parking lots which means more housing where the parking lots would otherwise be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 22:29:24 No.1561109 Report

Quoted By: >>1561126

>>1561107
Just seems crazy to me that developers are devoting valuable space to businesses to line their pockets when there are people sleeping on the street every night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 23:04:55 No.1561124 Report

Quoted By: >>1561128 >>1561142

>>1561077
>>1559685

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 23:05:21 No.1561126 Report

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>>1561109
agreed, but real estate development is inherently for-profit business.
I agree the state should have a goal of housing residents who have whatever problem (s) keeping them unable/unwilling to house themselves. this might be done by seizing land that would otherwise be developed commercially by eminent domain and then designing special high-volume, low-cost housing to go on it exclusively. but that's a completely different way of building than is usually done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 23:07:05 No.1561128 Report

Quoted By: >>1561148

>>1561124
>A "study" done by a powerful lobbying group
Gee thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 23:53:15 No.1561142 Report

Quoted By: >>1561148 >>1561179

>>1559685
>>1561124
by that logic a house in the city center would be incredibly valuable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 23:55:09 No.1561146 Report

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>>1561070
>walkability and convenience adds a lot of value to a house.
>people are building a lot of luxury housing in the city centers.
Huh, is the US finally gonna start making sense in the future? Took them a retardedly long time to realize long commute times are ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 23:59:02 No.1561148 Report

Quoted By: >>1561155

>>1561128
>A study done by realtors found higher real estate values in walkable neighbourhoods

>>1561142
Are you implying this isn't the case?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 00:04:17 No.1561155 Report

Quoted By: >>1561158 >>1561161

>>1561148
>A study done by realtors
That's a very disingenuous way to say "a national lobbying group commissioned a study"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 00:07:07 No.1561158 Report

Quoted By: >>1561175

>>1561155
NAR is a trade association, not a lobbying group, but regardless, go ahead and tell me what benefit realtors across America derive from the finding that walkability increases property value.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 00:09:08 No.1561161 Report

Quoted By: >>1561175

>>1561155
What would your ideal source look like? Genuinely curious who would qualify.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 00:24:21 No.1561175 Report

Quoted By:

>>1561158
>NAR is a trade association, not a lobbying group
Hahahahahaha oh anon

>>1561161
>Genuinely curious
Don't care

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 00:33:58 No.1561177 Report

Quoted By: >>1561213

Man the people on this board are actually mentally damaged. Posts unironically advocating for nothing but suburbs and residential since hurr amazon delivers everything so everyone can be a NEET like me. We don’t need local businesses, just factories that deliver shit to my house so I can spend maximum time consooming.

What fucking boogeyman is giving you these awful opinions? The big kids playground lobbyists? The anti 3 hour commute union? Grow up you sad little man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 00:37:53 No.1561179 Report

Quoted By:

>>1561142
Housing in American city centers is very valuable. Housing in walkable, convenient areas is much higher priced.
If you don’t believe me go look at the rents in any decent-sized city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 00:40:52 No.1561181 Report

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Redfin used an economic tool called “hedonic regression” to examine more than a million home sales in major markets around the country, and to tease out the separate contributions of a house’s lot size, age, number of bedrooms and bathrooms, square footage and neighborhood characteristics (like average income). In addition, the RedFin model included an examination of each property’s Walk Score. Walk Score is an algorithm that estimates the walkability of every address in the United States on a scale of 0 to 100 based on its proximity to a number common destinations like schools, stores, coffee shops, parks and restaurants.

What they found is that increased walkability was associated with higher home values across the country.
>On average, they found that a one point increase in a house’s Walk Score was associated with a $3,000 increase in the house’s market value.

https://cityobservatory.org/the-economic-value-of-walkability-new-evidence/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 01:36:19 No.1561200 Report

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>>1558461
Except now you can work from home without having to commute

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 01:53:56 No.1561209 Report

Quoted By: >>1561219

>>1559724
Imagine living above a Wendy's or a Foot Locker lmao why the fuck would anyone want to live there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 01:57:01 No.1561212 Report

Quoted By:

>>1560974
Ewwwwww that's the grossest siding I've ever seen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 02:10:51 No.1561213 Report

Quoted By:

>>1561177
Telecom companies wouldn't be spending billions of dollars installing fiber optic cables to the suburbs if they thought new urbanism was the answer to everyone's problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 02:27:34 No.1561219 Report

Quoted By: >>1561225

>>1561209
Idk, mixed-use development is really popular though. I’m seeing it everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 02:30:01 No.1561223 Report

Quoted By: >>1561227

Excuse the turbo newfaggotry but I am currently a senior majoring in urban planning at uni and I am really scared for my future job prospects. Would it be a wise choice to jump into surveying after college and start as a rodman or should I try to look for urban planning jobs/internships. Most places require you to have a masters even tho they pay pennies and I don't want to work in municipal government my whole life and the private sector is very competitive as you have to compete with architects and engineers. You guys think I should jump ship or stick it out? /r/urbanplanning is extremely unhelpful and filled with either ultra doomers who are measuring stop signs all day or boomers who got into the field early.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 02:31:04 No.1561225 Report

Quoted By:

>>1561219
idk anon not having to pay delivery for tendies sounds pretty kino.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 02:42:27 No.1561227 Report

Quoted By: >>1561228

>>1561223
You're screwed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 02:48:49 No.1561228 Report

Quoted By: >>1561231

>>1561227
So land surveying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 02:55:31 No.1561231 Report

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>>1561228
Deep fryer studies with a minor in salt

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 07:58:11 No.1561285 Report

Quoted By: >>1561363

>>1561034
>have to live 1 hour away from everything and endure long commute
oh no no no no

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 08:25:21 No.1561289 Report

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Meet final form of Based leftist city.
>no bad single family homes
>mixed zoning good!
>total walkability, you drive elevator to the moms and dads store or barbershop on the ground floor
>any other goods can be delivered to your commie block entrance hall by couriers from webstores
>no commuting to work, chinese virus lockdown, remote work good!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 12:38:45 No.1561363 Report

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>>1561285
Considering the fact that New York rush-hour traffic is at a standstill, I really doubt its driving figures.

New Jersey makes sense because a lot of people in New Jersey live in the suburbs and take the train(s) into New York and Philly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2020 20:02:15 No.1561552 Report

Quoted By:

NEW THREAD
>>>1561381
>>>1561381
>>>1561381

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Ghislaine Maxwell's feet Sun 18 Oct 2020 14:08:33 No.1562703 Report

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>>1560087
>Koch
>muh evil boogeyman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_ur1M1ya4U

Ghislaine Maxwell's feet

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Ghislaine Maxwell's feet Sun 18 Oct 2020 14:10:48 No.1562704 Report

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