>>1581776Actually you do give a fuck because you constantly argue about them. And it's got nothing to do with what you say either. It's just identity-bike nonsense.
>>1581796Cheap touring bike, cheap gravel/light trail bike, loaner, drunk beater, shopping bike, etc etc.
>>1581794yeah? Just 1 example. There are lots of good markets in the world. I didn't cherry pick it either. It's just literally the last person who asked for advice here about buying such a bike and posted their local market.