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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 08:16:00 No.1583531 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1583533 >>1583560 >>1583611 >>1586126 >>1586458

There is nothing inherently wrong with this image, urbanists seethe because they don’t know how to develop highways properly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 08:17:40 No.1583533 Report

Quoted By: >>1583534

>>1583531
What's inherently wrong is that it's an incredibly inefficient design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 08:18:53 No.1583534 Report

Quoted By: >>1583671 >>1586465

>>1583533
>big highways
>more room for people to travel
>inefficient
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 10:03:16 No.1583549 Report

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>CURVED LINES BAD!
>STRAIGHT LINES GOOD!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 10:45:43 No.1583560 Report

Quoted By: >>1583566

>>1583531
> funnel an entire city into a narrow slice
> give everyone large metal boxes
> require 50+m distance between the boxes while at speed
> one fool braking unnecessarily causes traffic to slow to a crawl; ~5m still required between people

also
> poison everyone who uses it and those who live nearby

Inner city highways are cancer. There is everything inherently wrong with that image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 11:05:06 No.1583566 Report

Quoted By: >>1583576 >>1583694

>>1583560
>now let me sell you on the health benefits of living in a 60's-vintage commieblock with ancient plumbing and heating, poor ventilation, rats, and the constant smell of hobo urine wafting into the windows

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 11:35:50 No.1583576 Report

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>>1583566
Ah yes, because those are the only two options. Good job countering my points as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 13:20:00 No.1583607 Report

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>muh slums

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 13:38:12 No.1583611 Report

Quoted By: >>1583659 >>1583662 >>1585683

>>1583531
Reminds me of this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 15:24:35 No.1583640 Report

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OP seethes because urbanists live rent free in his head, that’s why he made this retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 15:28:20 No.1583641 Report

Quoted By: >>1583649

OP seethes because urbanists live rent free in his head, that’s why he made this retarded thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 15:39:11 No.1583649 Report

Quoted By: >>1583693

>>1583641
>Says OP is seething about urbanists
>Yet the OP is an urbanist
Imagine being this retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 16:20:20 No.1583659 Report

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>>1583611
That's a railyard, genius, not a highway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 16:22:25 No.1583662 Report

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>>1583611
why don they fold them up more efficiently ?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 16:24:05 No.1583664 Report

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Trump isn't even out of office yet, Biden isn't going to do shit for public transportation and the GOP is holding the senate. You can go ahead and dial the shilling down from 11 any time now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 16:35:49 No.1583671 Report

Quoted By: >>1583683

>>1583534
We only have 60 years worth of data proving this wrong, but sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 17:21:57 No.1583683 Report

Quoted By: >>1583729 >>1583775

>>1583671
Where

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 17:32:48 No.1583693 Report

Quoted By: >>1583697

>>1583649
>reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 17:34:25 No.1583694 Report

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>>1583566
>but what about muh strawman
yikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 17:39:28 No.1583697 Report

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>>1583693
>still retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 19:05:14 No.1583729 Report

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>>1583683
Come on dumbass, everyone knows that expanding highways spawns more drivers out of thin air, the studies say so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 22:24:13 No.1583775 Report

Quoted By: >>1585821

>>1583683
In every transportation agency in the country. Induced demand is a proven fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Dec 2020 05:07:43 No.1585683 Report

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>>1583611
>railyard
Now that’s what I call based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Dec 2020 05:28:18 No.1585695 Report

Quoted By: >>1585734

It’s needlessly expensive and causes a lot of pollution and traffic deaths. Not to mention noise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Dec 2020 06:38:00 No.1585734 Report

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>>1585695
You are describing my first wife.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Dec 2020 14:00:13 No.1585821 Report

Quoted By: >>1585967 >>1586461

>>1583775
>No answer, just a buzzword
Opinion discarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Dec 2020 22:26:19 No.1585967 Report

Quoted By: >>1586394

>>1585821
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2017/06/21/the-science-is-clear-more-highways-equals-more-traffic-why-are-dots-still-ignoring-it/
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3141/1659-09
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0965856499000476

i'm sure you can google more yourself anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Dec 2020 06:42:16 No.1586126 Report

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>>1583531
>massive grade separation yet still has potential conflict spots for weaving between access ramps
>on- and off-ramps shorter than a postage stamp
>tiny radii on curves

if you put even a tiny bit of effort into your post surely you could find a better example of freeway design without so many glaring flaws

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Dec 2020 20:13:03 No.1586394 Report

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>>1585967
One is some guy's blog
One is behind a paywall
One is almost twenty years old

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Dec 2020 23:54:40 No.1586458 Report

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>>1583531
you can't develop urban highways properly, high/low traffic hours fuck them hard. inside the city we should get rid of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Dec 2020 00:06:06 No.1586461 Report

Quoted By: >>1586473

>>1585821
Induced demand is taught by sophomore year in civil engineering programs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Dec 2020 00:12:09 No.1586465 Report

Quoted By: >>1586473

>>1583534
>more room for people to travel inducing demand creating more congestion causing lanes to be added inducing demand again creating more congestion again causing lanes to be added again inducing demand again again creating more congestion again again causing lanes to be added again again inducing demand again again again creating more congestion again again again causing lanes to be added again again again
>nothing inherently wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Dec 2020 00:25:56 No.1586473 Report

Quoted By: >>1586484

>>1586461
>Induced demand is taught by sophomore year in civil engineering programs.
So?

>>1586465
As opposed to what? Not building more lanes and choking economic output, or backing unpopular and more expensive transit boondoggles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Dec 2020 00:59:13 No.1586484 Report

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>>1586473
no

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 17 Dec 2020 01:52:18 No.1586505 Report

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>there is nothing wrong with tearing down historic city centers and covering them with asphalt

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