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Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 05:44:34 No.1590100 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1590137 >>1590642 >>1591026 >>1591147 >>1591320 >>1591430 >>1591510 >>1591514 >>1591595 >>1592205 >>1592754 >>1593305

>a gravel bike is just a road bike with slightly bigger tires
Why do people say this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 05:51:21 No.1590104 Report

Quoted By: >>1590132

Because, trapanon, disc brake road is common now, and nobody understands geometry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 06:21:37 No.1590107 Report

Quoted By:

>Had gravel bikes 1984-2005
>Suddenly: This is a roadbike, it is only for tarmac
>Cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 09:13:03 No.1590132 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590104
Pretty much this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 10:01:53 No.1590137 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590100
It was true when gravel bike meant cyclocross bike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 10:04:02 No.1590139 Report

Quoted By: >>1590866

Because a gravel bike is literally fucking anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 10:24:26 No.1590143 Report

Quoted By: >>1590154 >>1590639 >>1591514

Because road bike is anything with drop bars and thin tires and gravel bike is anything with dropbars and thicker (bit not too thick) tires. Using basic logic you come up to conclusion that gravel bike is just a road bike with thicker tires. Also: gravel roads are also roads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 10:36:16 No.1590146 Report

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I don't remember when I first heard the term "gravel bike", but it was not that many years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 10:39:18 No.1590147 Report

Quoted By: >>1590172 >>1590181 >>1590639 >>1591159

Endurance road has turned into what gravel was a few years ago, which was cyclocross without mud, so gravel is turning into what XC was a few decades ago, which is also cyclocross without mud. Motorcycles that use batteries instead of dino juice are bicycles now. Men have become women and women are public toilets. Nothing means anything anymore.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 11:53:18 No.1590154 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590143
this

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Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 13:30:15 No.1590172 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590147
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 14:05:05 No.1590180 Report

Quoted By: >>1590196 >>1590639 >>1590866

A gravel bike is what you buy if you're too much of an incompetent spatially unaware pussy to ride on a normal road but you think drop bars look "pro" so you buy something to put in your cage and drive to the "gravel road" you found on the internet so you can be a weak pussy where there's only other casuals around who won't gatekeep or make you feel inadequate, this is NOT a race!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 14:05:33 No.1590181 Report

Quoted By: >>1592025

>>1590147
>Motorcycles that use batteries instead of dino juice are bicycles now
+1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 14:49:33 No.1590196 Report

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>>1590180
rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Dec 2020 18:48:02 No.1590631 Report

Quoted By: >>1590632

Then what is a rigid mtb with 700c 40+mm tires, 2x, and flat bars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Dec 2020 18:49:16 No.1590632 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590631
a hybrid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Dec 2020 18:52:06 No.1590634 Report

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Autists that feel the need to put everything into neat and tidy categories are autistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Dec 2020 19:09:01 No.1590639 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590147
>>1590143
Clear water, refreshing
>>1590180
Overdosed on his own koolaid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Dec 2020 19:20:12 No.1590642 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590100

He is gorgeous!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Dec 2020 19:22:05 No.1590643 Report

Quoted By: >>1590873 >>1591029 >>1591059 >>1591096 >>1591514

>put mid 2000 mtb frame next to a "modern gravel frame"
>no difference at all
>n-n-no! the bb shell of a gravel bike is 0.5 cm higher than a regular frame! technically it doesn't count as a gravel bike!

Suck a dick, gravel purists. Pretty much any mtb frame with a horizontal top tube it's just like a "gravel" frame. Put a rigid fork on it and you are set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Dec 2020 19:28:11 No.1590644 Report

Quoted By: >>1590649 >>1590869

I don't know why people get upset over gravel bikes.
I'm a mountain biker and I have been using a cx bike to commute the last 7years.
Commuting is serious business and neither road nor mountain bikes don't cut it.
I am looking forward to getting a gravel bike.
It will further fulfill my demands for road-like simplicity and mtb-like sturdyness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Dec 2020 19:43:21 No.1590649 Report

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>>1590644
>I don't know why people get upset over gravel bikes.
because they're trendy, that's it.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Dec 2020 16:23:41 No.1590866 Report

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>>1590180
>>1590139
Is this a gravel anon? Are you man enough to take this down some double track?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Dec 2020 16:26:17 No.1590869 Report

Quoted By: >>1591311

>>1590644
Same. Road bike commuting is a bitch. CX is great but I think gravel will have lower Bottom bracket, taller stack. The question is how twitchy you want the handling. I eventually commuted on a touring bike for the tires, but the handling and stiffness sucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Dec 2020 16:42:09 No.1590873 Report

Quoted By: >>1590874 >>1591066

>>1590643
Those MTB frames won't have 650B or 700C wheels though. Also fuckall for stack so have fun putting drop bars on there.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Dec 2020 16:45:02 No.1590874 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590873
thx i will

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 01:40:11 No.1591026 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590100

Because they don't know how fun they are, having the ability to go on road and dirt without losing speed is nice. The best is taking a cx/gravel bike down single track.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 01:43:42 No.1591029 Report

Quoted By: >>1591063

>>1590643
>Put a rigid fork on your mtb
>And since you're riding road, put drop bars on it, you could benefit from some aero gains
And gravel bike. Or more specifically, 90s rigid drop bar conversion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:38:23 No.1591059 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590643

That's a lot of work when I can already buy a frame with all that shit on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:43:24 No.1591063 Report

Quoted By: >>1591096

>>1591029

That's a-lot of work for something that I can just buy already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:49:55 No.1591066 Report

Quoted By: >>1591117

>>1590873
Most mtb frames designed for 26 x 2.2+ tires will take 27.5 x punyroadthickness tires

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:56:41 No.1591096 Report

Quoted By:

>>1591063
yea thats my point lol. >>1590643 was saying that you should just put a rigid fork on a mountain bike and you have a gravel bike. When you could just buy a gravel bike.

I personally feel like a gravel bike should be at least 60% road bike. Any more, and you are pretty much rigid mtb with drops. Which I guess is ok, if you like drop bars. But they serve less and less of a purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 06:54:43 No.1591117 Report

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>>1591066
Great, now you have a shitty road bike, not a gravel bike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 12:04:31 No.1591147 Report

Quoted By: >>1591154

>>1590100
Because if I stick 28 mm slicks on my gravel meme it's a road bike with excessive tyre clearance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 13:17:37 No.1591154 Report

Quoted By: >>1591156 >>1591180

>>1591147
You forgot the word “bad” between “a” and “road”

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 13:25:26 No.1591156 Report

Quoted By: >>1591158

>>1591154
Please elaborate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 13:28:47 No.1591157 Report

Quoted By: >>1591300

It is similar to what in the late 90s was a freeride bike, people would say it's just a DH bike that you can pedal uphill or it's an XC bike with thicker tyres
Also the evolution and diversification of the bikes goes a similar way depending on terrain to ride on, but still under the same meme buzzword that will mutate into something new/different with time like freeride then split into trail and enduro and so on...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 13:36:05 No.1591158 Report

Quoted By: >>1591271

>>1591156
This is knowledge you must gain yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 13:39:16 No.1591159 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590147
Is this the lost couplet from Nina Simone's song 22nd century?
https://youtu.be/PYcgCiWAv8c

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 15:00:40 No.1591180 Report

Quoted By:

>>1591154
It turns into an endurance road bike. It's not racy or aero, no. But depending on the bike itself you can still have a solid machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 20:44:54 No.1591271 Report

Quoted By:

>>1591158
I'm inclined to do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 22:19:45 No.1591300 Report

Quoted By:

>>1591157
There is literally no reason all-mountain bikes shouldn’t exist in the market right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 22:58:42 No.1591311 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590869
Depends on model, but most are going for smaller head angles, shouldn't be twitchy at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 23:35:09 No.1591320 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590100
Because it's true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 05:54:18 No.1591430 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590100
>a road bike is just a touring bike with the rack and the mudguards removed
>and optionally slightly bigger tires

Good bait though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 06:02:02 No.1591433 Report

Quoted By: >>1591514

I love my "gravel" bike. I get to rip at fast speeds in an environment I like with fun obstacles. It's a great blend and fun way to ride. I still mtb and hit road but somthing so freeing about sprinting and jumping roots and logs, riding little tech and climbs clipped into a light ass drop bar bike. So what of the geo is the same as a 90s mtb ? Who cares ride that if you want lol. I like narrow drops, 700c and disc brakes so sue me. Next bike is rigid ss 26er

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Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 14:53:29 No.1591510 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590100
it's true though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 15:41:46 No.1591514 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590100
>>1590643
>>1591433
Actually people should say gravel bike is just a 90s mtb with slicks and drop bar.

And I like it. My bikes' mileage goes like
gravel > 90s mtb with slicks > am hardtail > full suspension trail bike
t. >>1590143

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 19:22:07 No.1591595 Report

Quoted By: >>1591614

>>1590100
who dis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 20:30:27 No.1591614 Report

Quoted By: >>1591636

>>1591595
It's me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 21:52:24 No.1591636 Report

Quoted By:

>>1591614
moar

Absolutely Anon

Absolutely Anon Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:16:01 No.1592025 Report

Quoted By: >>1592028 >>1592030 >>1592054

>>1590181
E-Bikes do not have throttles.

=/= a motorbike

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:29:52 No.1592028 Report

Quoted By:

>>1592025
It's called a motorbike not a throttlebike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:46:00 No.1592030 Report

Quoted By: >>1592043

>>1592025
mental gymnastics

Absolutely Anon

Absolutely Anon Sat 02 Jan 2021 00:29:22 No.1592043 Report

Quoted By: >>1592054

>>1592030
no its actually a concrete legal definition here in australia e-bikes cannot
- exceed 250watts
- have a throttle
- have motor engaged beyond 25/kmhr

outside that your shit must be a registered moped / motorbike with all the bells and whistles. If you get caught expect thousands of dollars of fines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 01:31:00 No.1592054 Report

Quoted By: >>1592056

>>1592043
But what you did here >>1592025 was state the that only the middle point in this list is relevant for the definition. So I could have 1000 watts and motor engaged ad 100 km/h, but as long as I don't have a throttle it's not a motorbike.
This is
1. absurd
2. by you own post, plain wrong.

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Absolutely Anon Sat 02 Jan 2021 01:40:46 No.1592056 Report

Quoted By:

>>1592054
someone implied ebikes were motorbikes with batteries and they are not

motorbikes are not pedelecs, no motorbike in the history of the world has used torque sensing to control a motor, you are so desperate to prove you are right you are invoking hypotheticals and fallacies which were eggregious compared to my simple rhetoric. Que Ad hominen /

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 12:38:22 No.1592205 Report

Quoted By: >>1592208

>>1590100
>mfw I bought a _dedicated_ gravel bike that is exactly this + dick brakes
And the tyres are 28mm stock too lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 12:46:21 No.1592208 Report

Quoted By: >>1592210

>>1592205
>_dedicated_ gravel bike
>28mm
who sells this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 12:49:48 No.1592210 Report

Quoted By: >>1592277

>>1592208
Who used to sell this.
And it's a 2016 GT Grade. It can fit up to 35mm tyre AFAIK (garbon frame even more).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 17:08:48 No.1592277 Report

Quoted By:

>>1592210
>2016 GT Grade
not a gravel bike, just an endurance road bike

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 19:16:51 No.1592754 Report

Quoted By: >>1592768 >>1592769 >>1593092

>>1590100
Why do these gay ass roadies put mechanical disks on gravel bikes.
anything under 1.5k$ has mechanical brakes.
While for mtbs you rarely find mechanical brakes above 500$.
What kind of elaborate scam is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 19:42:11 No.1592768 Report

Quoted By:

>>1592754
Hydros are only available on Tiagra and up. Tiagra is equivalent to Deore. Add on the fact that generally road cycling demographics are older than mountain biking demographics. Roadies are older and make more money than their mtb counterparts so they're willing to spend more on hobby items therefore companies are able to charge more. Also it's more difficult to integrate hydraulics into road hoods while maintaining a low profile. Hydraulic brakes on road bikes haven't been around as long as they have on mountain bikes so the tech has had less time to "trickle down". Generally I agree entry level road/gravel bike products are overpriced compared to entry level mountain bike products, but don't act like companies have no justification for higher prices and haven't done this in the past with mountain bikes. Not even a decade ago most entry level mountain bikes were still coming with 3x7 drivetrains and rim brakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 19:42:56 No.1592769 Report

Quoted By: >>1593086

>>1592754
Because the selection for road-specific hydros is very limited, and all expensive

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 13:08:49 No.1593086 Report

Quoted By: >>1593092 >>1593286

>>1592769
maybe 10 years ago, not anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 13:46:12 No.1593092 Report

Quoted By: >>1593120 >>1593304

>>1592754
>>1593086
Ok so mech disc seems awful. But hydro disk requires new levers, hoses, tools. And is more expensive.
What about cable actuated hydros? Are they a decent compromise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 15:15:12 No.1593120 Report

Quoted By:

>>1593092
>What about cable actuated hydros? Are they a decent compromise?
The TRP? They sound like it. In practice it's the worst of both worlds. Not only do you have to recable, you also have to bleed. You need all the gear for both and anything that can go wrong with a cable will still go wrong, and anything that can go wrong with hydro, will still go wrong. And the modulation is hardly better than pure cable. All the bad with about a 15% improvement over pure cable, under absolutely perfect conditions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 23:34:56 No.1593286 Report

Quoted By: >>1593302

>>1593086
Nah, hydro still hasn't trickled down to Sora or Claris, and any gravel bike with hydro Tiagra is well over 1k

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 23:50:58 No.1593302 Report

Quoted By:

>>1593286
that's probably just a corona thing, last fall there were road bikes with hydro tiagra in the 1k range

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 23:56:07 No.1593304 Report

Quoted By: >>1593306

>>1593092
mech disc isn't awful
chinky mech discs are awful
if you get dual pot TRP spyres or something they're good

chinky mech discs like promax or basic tektro have a fixed pad on one side and push the disc over into it with the one pad that moves. It's a terrible design and they're all just chinky in general.

spyres or other nicer mech disc actuate from both sides like hydros do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 23:56:31 No.1593305 Report

Quoted By:

>>1590100
Who cares? Just buy and ride what you want. At least these people aren't wasting their money on video games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 23:59:04 No.1593306 Report

Quoted By: >>1593309

>>1593304
>if you get dual pot TRP spyres or something they're good

lol, no they're not, you are racist and poor

>spyres or other nicer mech disc actuate from both sides like hydros do.

yeah and like rim brakes do. doesn't mean they operate like rim brakes. get a job, oops an immigrant stole it. better kys in that case

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Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:07:47 No.1593309 Report

Quoted By: >>1593323

>>1593306
anon i'm not a sinophobe. I've travelled in China, i love the place. They make a lot of top tier stuff too. They also chink the fuck out of you when you don't give them enough money to work with. It's impressive almost and chinkshit is a term of endearment and an accurate description, not a dismissal of chinese manufacturing or china as a whole.

I don't know how else to explain it.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:09:55 No.1593312 Report

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Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:30:09 No.1593323 Report

Quoted By: >>1593329 >>1593337

>>1593309
did Xi have a gun to your head while you typed that? It's ok to criticize chink garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:35:53 No.1593329 Report

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>>1593323
>It's ok to criticize chink garbage.
yeah that's literally what i was doing dumbcunt

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Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:42:31 No.1593336 Report

Quoted By: >>1593348 >>1593360

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001671517535.html

>4130 lugged chromed minivelo
>$280 frameset
>$440 complete bike

based?

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Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:42:54 No.1593337 Report

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>>1593323
> did Xi have a gun to your head while you typed that? It's ok to criticize chink garbage.
Updooted

Edit: thanks for the gold!

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Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:43:35 No.1593338 Report

Quoted By: >>1593360

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Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:55:21 No.1593348 Report

Quoted By: >>1593360

>>1593336
nice frame, terrible complete bike
I've been eyeballing one of those disc brake lugged steel road frames on ali, they look really neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:35:59 No.1593360 Report

Quoted By:

>>1593336
>>1593338
>>1593348
These frames are not nice quality. If you are expecting something nice, all the imperfections will drive you insane. The quality isn't enough to be an actual plated "show" type bike which you kind of expect from a chrome bike.

They are functional and look good from 10 feet away.

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