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Gas Bikes = Vintage Motorcycles?

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 22:17:14 No.1596066 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1596419 >>1596442 >>1597474 >>1600889 >>1603412 >>1605447 >>1605599

Were the early motorcycle based on bicycles?
From what I can tell, the motorbikes of 1900 - 1920 were just bicycles with motors added, not much different from the mopeds of today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jan 2021 12:19:29 No.1596290 Report

Quoted By: >>1597478

Yep, they started as "this bicycle is nice, but I don't want to pedal" and have now evolved into the most efficient and enjoyable means of personal transportation today

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jan 2021 12:55:49 No.1596298 Report

Quoted By: >>1597478

Conceptually there is no other way than for the motorcycle to be a continuation of the bicycle, but the construction and operation soon required adaptions in geometries and components, for example stronger and sturdier drivetrain components, suspension components or wheels and brakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jan 2021 18:51:03 No.1596419 Report

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>>1596066
Well... yeah
Did you think motorbikes came first or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jan 2021 19:30:05 No.1596442 Report

Quoted By: >>1596473

>>1596066
The motorcycle with indirect drive and equal size wheels was invented before the safety bicycles. Bicycles are old motorcycles without engines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jan 2021 20:37:07 No.1596473 Report

Quoted By: >>1597500 >>1597580

>>1596442
>The motorcycle with indirect drive and equal size wheels was invented before the safety bicycle
I don't believe you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 06:53:25 No.1597474 Report

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>>1596066
Id on the fork suspension?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 07:43:44 No.1597478 Report

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>>1596290
>>1596298
what these anons said, I've read before the split between bicycle with engine and motorcycle is the rise of double downtube frames that could hold larger stronger engines

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 10:24:15 No.1597500 Report

Quoted By: >>1597580 >>1605448 >>1605450

>>1596473
Roper motorcycle had the equal size wheels. Michaux-Perreaux had the indirect drive. Both were rear wheel driver and 1868. The fact of the matter is it was impossible to mount an engine on a penny farthing, so these developments came on motorcycles first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:47:47 No.1597580 Report

Quoted By: >>1597581 >>1600894

>>1596473
>>1597500
It's true, there were earlier safety bicycles before the steam velocipede but they were still with larger front wheels. The Rover of 1885 was the first equal wheeled safety bicycle, while 1894 saw the first two-wheeled internal combustion powered motorcycle, although the front wheel was still larger than the rear. Both the Rover and the Hildebrand & Wolfmüller were the first examples that were commercially viable and easily recognized as ancestors of the modern versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:50:00 No.1597581 Report

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>>1597580
Forgot an image of the Hildebrand & Wolfmüller, it's clearly in the same lineage as the safety bicycle but also heading in its own direction with no diamond frame and beefier construction.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:51:05 No.1597582 Report

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>>1597581
This is what I get for phone posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Jan 2021 22:47:38 No.1600889 Report

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>>1596066
Cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Jan 2021 22:57:55 No.1600894 Report

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>>1597580
>It's true, there were earlier safety bicycles before the steam velocipede but they were still with larger front wheels.
Prove it, and don't cite wikipedia for Humber because it's not true.
https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Humber:_Cycles

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jan 2021 11:05:23 No.1603412 Report

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>>1596066
>Were the early motorcycle based on bicycles?
yes, and the emergence of E bikes has created demand for heavy gauge spokes that are per chance suited for use in rebuilding the wheels of vintage motorcycles
the bicycle has done more for the world than most people know

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 11:11:44 No.1605447 Report

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>>1596066
>Were the early motorcycle based on bicycles?
Yes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 11:26:58 No.1605448 Report

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>>1597500
They just put a retrofitted engine on an already existing velocipede frame. It doesn't even count as a motorcycle and had no practical use. it were just experiments.
First mass produced motorcycles with combustion engines came after 1894.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 11:31:11 No.1605450 Report

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>>1597500
They just put a retrofitted engines on an already existing velocipede frame. It doesn't even count as a motorcycle and had no practical use. it were just experiments.
First mass produced motorcycles with combustion engines came after 1894.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 16:43:16 No.1605599 Report

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>>1596066

Yes.

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