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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:49:57 No.1597224 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1597238 >>1597251 >>1597309 >>1597497 >>1598153 >>1598485 >>1599672 >>1599673 >>1599693

The absolute state of American infrastructure

https://youtu.be/9X2A2f6E5DI

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:51:21 No.1597225 Report

Quoted By: >>1597247

Pretty cool. Thanks OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:40:41 No.1597238 Report

Quoted By: >>1597247 >>1597337

>>1597224
>unused track on a minor short line running through a swamp is left unmaintained, and settles accordingly
>the eternal europoor can't differentiate between an individual data point and the vast majority of rail lines
pottery

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:09:59 No.1597247 Report

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>>1597225
This
>>1597238
But seriously, though, that just looks like an accident waiting to happen. Trains aren't supposed to go offroad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:16:26 No.1597251 Report

Quoted By: >>1597287

>>1597224
I’m at work…is this that old Napoleon, Defiance & Western video?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:12:13 No.1597287 Report

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>>1597251
The one and only.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:19:07 No.1597309 Report

Quoted By: >>1597365 >>1597460

>>1597224
Boston to Worcester MBTA has to slow down to about this speed 3/4 of the way to Worcester. Something about the section being created for freight not passengers and the lines being made of 1/4 mile welded sections that heat up. Interesting ride you notice when it slows down.

Funny too is how the trains used I think are EMD f40's that were originally freight based with freight generators made updated into passenger trains.

https://www.masslive.com/news/worcester/2014/07/as_rails_heat_up_trains_slow_d.html

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:30:54 No.1597337 Report

Quoted By: >>1597373

>>1597238
are you implying american rail is well maintained?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:29:25 No.1597365 Report

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>>1597309
>1/4 mile welded sections that heat up
You're a dummy. 1/4 mile sticks are what you drop and weld together. 39' are the sticks used in jointed rail.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:37:27 No.1597373 Report

Quoted By: >>1597457 >>1597464 >>1597468 >>1597764 >>1599317

>>1597337
Much better then EU rails. US rail can support cargo trains 6-7 times more capacity then falling apart EU rail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9uV2FIEbcA

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 05:29:14 No.1597457 Report

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>>1597373
that is a fuckton of kinetic energy god damn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 05:44:13 No.1597460 Report

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>>1597309
I took that train once. It took easily twice as long as the return trip by car

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 05:47:39 No.1597462 Report

Quoted By: >>1597769 >>1598590

At least we have finally have a president who cares about infrastructure, and a Congress that won’t block him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 05:56:44 No.1597464 Report

Quoted By: >>1597772

>>1597373
jesus, looks like it could coast through an entire state on kinetic energy alone. Any estimates on the mass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 06:04:16 No.1597468 Report

Quoted By: >>1597470 >>1597471 >>1597538 >>1597592 >>1597840 >>1598481 >>1598486

>>1597373
The US doesn’t really have an excuse for this though, the supposed richest country in the world in on Par with former commie countries. It’s a disgrace

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 06:37:17 No.1597470 Report

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>>1597468
Rail was built literally everywhere here in 19th century, it's harder to maintain infrastructure then to build it. China will learn that lesson soon enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 06:38:47 No.1597471 Report

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>>1597468
Rail was built literally everywhere here in the 19th century, it's harder to maintain infrastructure than to build it. China will learn that lesson soon enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 08:20:42 No.1597489 Report

Quoted By: >>1598156

>America
>1st world
LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 10:14:39 No.1597497 Report

Quoted By:

>>1597224
>when the train pulls up on the tracks you used to draw as a kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 13:56:19 No.1597538 Report

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>>1597468
>applying the status of a small section of rail on a minor short line running through a swamp to the rest of a massive country

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 16:17:13 No.1597592 Report

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>>1597468
nature of self a regulating free market
it is a mathematical equation, cost of maintenance vs repairs / payout in the event of an accident.
Track maintenance could be 1-2 million or more a mile, which will eat into profits (returns to share holders and bonuses for CEO / board).
Accidents are insurable and will be placed on the crew (exceeding the speed limit, too fast for conditions, failure to report hazards, ect).
if the company is found liable and gets sued, they will hold it up in court long enough for the CEO and share holders to flip their stock.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 01:35:34 No.1597764 Report

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>>1597373
man i wish i could be this enthusiastic about stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 02:08:55 No.1597769 Report

Quoted By: >>1597773

>>1597462
Corporate Crony Schmuck that's been in DC for 50 years. Nothing will change about freight rail under him. Bitch ass won't even protect crew sizes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 02:17:23 No.1597772 Report

Quoted By: >>1597781

>>1597464
12 to 13k tons

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 02:21:33 No.1597773 Report

Quoted By: >>1598177 >>1598282 >>1598475 >>1600897

>>1597769
>Bitch ass won't even protect crew sizes.
Good, fuck train drivers
Whole thing could be automated with no loss other than the whiny old faggots who want to hang on to their useless job

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 03:05:08 No.1597781 Report

Quoted By: >>1600890

>>1597772
At 70 MPH and full load, that translates to about 2.9 Gigajoules just for the cargo alone. Wew.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 08:49:45 No.1597840 Report

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>>1597468
Excuse for what?
No country in the world have rail infrastructure able to support routine double decker trains carrying 200+ containers.
In trains tonnages only Australia and Norway can compete who run specialized one good rails carrying coal or ore to the ports.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 00:29:11 No.1598067 Report

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>shit tier passenger service
>god tier freight service

You win some, you lose some

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 05:35:04 No.1598153 Report

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>>1597224
Get off the road if its broken, who gives a shit. we are working on flying cars and shit while you fags measure train sizes ROFL LMAO

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Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 05:37:24 No.1598156 Report

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>>1597489
how is kitesville working out for you?

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Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 05:41:15 No.1598158 Report

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LOSERS stop posting shitty trains that arent even armored dumbfucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 06:24:46 No.1598177 Report

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>>1597773
Neo liberal fags not welcome here.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 15:46:12 No.1598282 Report

Quoted By: >>1598304 >>1600897

>>1597773
>Good, fuck train drivers
>Whole thing could be automated with no loss other than the whiny old faggots who want to hang on to their useless job
>oink oink

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 17:24:20 No.1598304 Report

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>>1598282
Oh wow, multiple threads, you're more blasted than i thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 01:37:52 No.1598475 Report

Quoted By: >>1598478 >>1598483 >>1598640 >>1600897

>>1597773
The job couldn’t be automated for shit: if some guy was about to jump in front of the train an AI would just go “we gaan” and not slam on the brakes until it was too late

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 01:49:22 No.1598478 Report

Quoted By: >>1598480 >>1600897

>>1598475
The robot couldn't see a broken rail or thermal misalignment and plug the train before running over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 01:57:47 No.1598480 Report

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>>1598478
Also that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 02:01:53 No.1598481 Report

Quoted By:

>>1597468
>The US doesn’t really have an excuse
The rail is owned by a private company, the country of origin is irrelevant. You don't think there are equally cheap companies in every other country on earth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 02:06:03 No.1598483 Report

Quoted By: >>1598763

>>1598475
>not slam on the brakes until it was too late
In the context of this thread on freight trains, what? By the time a driver can see someone and realize they're going to jump it's already too late, the big freighters can take thousands of feet to stop.. I'd almost say they might as well not even stop and just keep going lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 02:08:48 No.1598485 Report

Quoted By: >>1598596

>>1597224
Trains are actually really hard to derail, terrible track isn't enough:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agznZBiK_Bs

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 02:10:00 No.1598486 Report

Quoted By:

>>1597468
>still clinging to his narrative
lmoa

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 12:21:47 No.1598590 Report

Quoted By:

>>1597462
Ya because the other side of the same coin will make everything better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 12:40:15 No.1598596 Report

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>>1598485
That track is straight though. I'd like to see the same experiment in a bend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 16:44:57 No.1598640 Report

Quoted By: >>1598711

>>1598475
>and not slam on the brakes until it was too late
Any reasonable train has a braking distance listed in kilometers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 20:48:11 No.1598711 Report

Quoted By: >>1598718

>>1598640
>Any reasonable train has a braking distance listed in kilometers.
That's kind of a meme except for HSR maybe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 21:29:13 No.1598718 Report

Quoted By: >>1598720 >>1598790

>>1598711
The length of the train doesn't matter as all carriages have brakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 21:31:44 No.1598720 Report

Quoted By:

>>1598718
The length and the weight matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 01:10:28 No.1598763 Report

Quoted By:

>>1598483
Plugging it before you splatter the tyranny matters. It protects the carrier from lawsuits. As they can show they took action to protect the life of the person.

It also reduces the severity of derailment and can even prevent them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 03:54:06 No.1598790 Report

Quoted By:

>>1598718
What is slack action?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 20:15:14 No.1599317 Report

Quoted By: >>1599321 >>1599399

>>1597373
>Much better then EU rails. US rail can support cargo trains 6-7 times more capacity then falling apart EU rail.

You are mixing carrying capacity with maintenance. Even fucking tram tracks that can only support light vehicles may be maintained in pristine condition...

Also "falling apart" EU rail can support intercity trains with 200 kph and high speed rail with 250+ kph, whereas the US foamers piss their pants if something runs 120 kph (or your 70 bald eagles per AR15 bullets).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 20:34:11 No.1599321 Report

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>>1599317
>poster gets BTFO by pointing out american rail can support massive loads with little maintenance and still work perfectly fine
>"w-well actually no because its not constantly kept up like a tram track"
the seethe is palpable.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Jan 2021 00:11:09 No.1599399 Report

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>>1599317
Your rail network can't even handle double-stack containers, and your couplers have 1/8th the strength of the American standard. Scharfenberg couplers are the only superior technology, and that's already being adopted by American transit.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Jan 2021 19:46:14 No.1599672 Report

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>>1597224
>Americans be like:
Unrestricted, private enterprise is the only functioning way of running anything.
>Unrestricted, private enterprises be like:
Our stock holders expect dividends, but are company doesn't really grow - isn't there something else we can cut the budgets of, so this years tax lifting can be spend on bonuses and dividends?
>Americans politicians be like:
At least we don't live in a communist, socialist world - we have our """freedome"""!

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Anonymous Thu 21 Jan 2021 19:49:23 No.1599673 Report

Quoted By: >>1599732

>>1597224
And my country has these, closed sections, that some private companies want to run an occasional short freight train on, but can't, because the state of the rails are critical. And it looks like a Japanese Shinkansen lines in comparison to OPs post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Jan 2021 20:39:09 No.1599693 Report

Quoted By: >>1599770

>>1597224
Looks fine its just the angle of the camera and slope of the terrain

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Jan 2021 22:37:07 No.1599732 Report

Quoted By: >>1599775

>>1599673
>because the state of the rails are critical
honestly the track in that photo looks fine, apart from the weeds. most sidings in bongistan are in that sort of condition.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jan 2021 00:30:21 No.1599770 Report

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>>1599693
It's fucked, though. You can't run a train safely over anything that tilts that dramatically without crawling. Needs a lot of rehabbing to get back to something they can even hit 10 mph on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jan 2021 00:50:44 No.1599775 Report

Quoted By: >>1599781

>>1599732
Have you considered reading the whole post before replying to it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jan 2021 01:07:52 No.1599781 Report

Quoted By:

>>1599775
You seem upset

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jan 2021 01:09:43 No.1599783 Report

Quoted By:

I watched the video and the comments also say that it's fine
Its. A little bumpy but straight track

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Jan 2021 22:47:44 No.1600890 Report

Quoted By:

>>1597781
and that's nothing compared to the daily electricity usage of a small city, no wonder storing energy physically is so hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Jan 2021 23:14:23 No.1600897 Report

Quoted By: >>1601027

>>1597773
>>1598282
>>1598475
>>1598478
Australia already has automated freight trains (UTO, no driver or any personnel onboard)
https://www.railjournal.com/in_depth/rise-machines-rio-tinto-autohaul
It uses a system equivalent to europe's standard:
>The AutoHaul system is equivalent to ERTMS Level 2 and has been installed by Hitachi Rail STS under a contract awarded in 2012 as part of the Rio Tinto Iron Ore-Ansaldo STS Framework Agreement established in 2010.

In other words, all it takes for driverless trains in the US is time.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2021 07:39:59 No.1601020 Report

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I thought about this thread today
lol trains

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Jan 2021 08:27:17 No.1601027 Report

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>>1600897
Yeah. It took off on its own. Had to get derailed to get it to stop. It also operates in the middle of fucknowhere on level terrain, and slowly hauls iron ore.

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