>>1653501I (Dutch person) completely agree with you. And as a communist, that obnoxious behavior by bike advocats and many more liberals annoys the hell out of me. Just because it is so counterproductive.
This guy
>>1653504 is a nice example of that behavior. No discussion, just says that you're telling bullshit and not giving arguments.
>>1653504Obesity is certainly a class-related problem, and it's probably not enjoyable on a bike when you weigh 300+lib.
I can imagine that in the cheaper neighbourhoods there's not as much shopping possibilities.
About distances in cities: Yes, that's something that is not easily fixed. Although there were probably times in the past where there were more smaller shops locally. Back when I cycled through South America I've also seen a lot of large cities with the square block structure. Those were fine, even for people without a bike.
Lots of small shops everywhere.
>>1653508I am kind of amazed that you think that the Dutch roads are so aesthetic. For me it's just what I'm used to and I don't think they're really made to look cool. The stone pavements you see a lot, but they're just our traditional way of paving. I think it's low maintenance compared to asphalt, but I'm not sure.
>>1653514Do you live in Amsterdam?
Here in Utrecht I don't have much of a problem with 25kph. 35kph is dangerous, since nobody expects a cyclist to have that speed and will consistently underestimate your speed. Yes, you do need to wait sometimes for some slow folks, but it's way faster than cars.
>>1653522It's a strange fotograph. And to be honest, since it's all new it's not very nice-looking yet, it's not even finished yet, the bike-lane has been at a different location just about every 2 months during the last 3 years. Although it finally seems near completion now.
>>1653528No, you can't. There's people in the way. And there are no roads for cars in the centers.
