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Is bike building worth it except for ego?

Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 21:43:21 No.1665330 View View Reply Original Report

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I priced out finding a 90s mtb frame on ebay and then purchasing all parts for it. Even buying bottom tier parts like altus/acera and some used it comes to £500. The only way to go lower is to get unbranded components direct from china. For £500 I could get a brand new bike with probably the same specs and possibly better, and also save a bunch of time, not have to worry about everything fitting together and have a warranty.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 21:51:44 No.1665333 Report

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>I bought a project car
>then I proceed to buy new parts shipped directly to the door and complain about doing the work myself
>wtf this costs as much as a new car and there is no guarantee??

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Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 21:52:42 No.1665334 Report

Quoted By: >>1668093

>>1665330
Welcome to an IRL lesson about economies of scale and their relation with cost.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 21:57:36 No.1665336 Report

Quoted By: >>1665341

>>1665330
you're supposed to search for bargain deals on used parts, nick stuff from your own parts bin or/and ask your lbs to let you dumpster dive. of course new components will cost new prices, especially considering the absolute state of bike industry.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 22:02:39 No.1665341 Report

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>>1665336
Used parts seem to be more expensive than new, especially for the low end. I guess it's more effort than it's worth to sell your old brakes for sub £10 a pair. The only stuff that seems to be cheaper is worn out garbage or stuff that is clearly mislabelled.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 22:09:00 No.1665344 Report

Quoted By: >>1665345

>>1665330
Where do you live where you need to buy a frame on ebay and not craigslist/your local equivalent? Buying a complete used bike and then upgrading with used components as you find good seems like a better plan anyway. That way you can still ride the bike while you wait for deals, plus it might have some parts on it you already wanted anyway.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 22:15:04 No.1665345 Report

Quoted By: >>1665411

>>1665344
There's more choice of frames on ebay, pretty much nobody selling frames locally except a few high end frames that would be way beyond budget. The frame doesn't come out as much of the price, it's all the small components that add up.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 22:20:16 No.1665346 Report

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>building a bike post pandemic

That's your problem, building a bike 2 years ago would have costed you less than 500 euros but with how cycling hitting a surge in popularity, finding bargain prices for parts is very hard to come by.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 23:16:32 No.1665368 Report

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>>1665330
damn that looks good. thats exactly like what i want to do with my 80s bridgestone MB-3, except with non-aero hoods and bar ends or DT shifters instead of brifters

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Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 23:25:15 No.1665375 Report

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>>1665330
i do that for fun, not worth it unless you have tons of spare parts or have easy access to bike parts.
i don't have either but i really like fiddling with bike, might get a sided job as a mechanic any time soon.
i have two 26 inches, that probably aren't worth 20 dolars together but they are worth something here on HUE land, i won't be making any money with these but now i can do anything to any bike.
fitted my fathers 29 with 30 gears, rear cassette with 50 tooth and 3 chain rings, was quite a mess and i got surprised it worked so smoothly, all used parts.
fixed a bent steel frame and bent cranks.
fells good bros

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 01:12:43 No.1665409 Report

Quoted By: >>1665842

>>1665330
Probably only worth it if you want maximum customization or if you spend time scrounging for cheap parts on ebay. Otherwise yeah just get something professionally assembled and with a warranty.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 01:14:47 No.1665411 Report

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Current parts shortage.
>>1665345
Buy or salvage crashed bikes for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 16:57:00 No.1665761 Report

Quoted By: >>1665766

>>1665330
Buy a complete used bike from 90s instead of wasting your time and money on parts

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 17:03:20 No.1665764 Report

Quoted By: >>1665776

>>1665330
>Is bike building worth it except for ego?
No. What makes sense is restoring a bike, focusing only on servicing things, and replacing consumables.

If you do that enough times, you have the tools and spare parts and experience to maybe consider 'building' something custom.

What you're asking about doesn't not make sense, you just haven't put in the fucking work yet. It's not legos.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 17:04:22 No.1665766 Report

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>>1665761
this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94zTrkr5_xY

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 17:15:41 No.1665776 Report

Quoted By: >>1665805 >>1665810 >>1667011 >>1667135 >>1667890

>>1665764
THIS

Took me about 2 and a half years and 14 resto projects before I had the opportunity to build me dream bike. I bought complete but unrideable bikes, fixed em up and got them rideable and sold them on, after a few projects I'd accumulated most of the tools I need and had accumulated about a grand in capital, bearing in mind I'm unemployed, never had a fucking job, a grand in cash for me was something in the realms of fantasy a few years ago.

Once you start making proper money, and I'm talking about buying something like a 93 marin in a fucked state for £50, spending about £30 on it and a couple of days work before seeling it to some sad gen xer in a midlife crisis for £350, and you're doing that once a month all wehile surviving on the pittance Boris johnso sends you once a fortnite, you're ready to move up a level, now you start seeking out decent complete bikes to strip down and sell by the components, bought a mongoose toblerone racer with full xtr for £600, made over £1100 by breaking it down, frame got me $£400, but the point is you start accumulating nice little bits for the dream bike you know you're going to put together for yourself for no money.

All I need is a frame, got me wheels, got me drivetrain, got everything, stem, seatpost and saddly, even got me peddles, I just need the right fucking frame, and I'll find it with a combination of LX abnd DX components on it which I'll rip the fuck off, clean them the fuck up and sell for more than I bought entire bike for and then I'll build me dream bike with me park tools for no fucking charge and win the game of milking gen x twats for keks.

Not bad for a lad who started off with a £20 diamondback and a loan of me neighbours adjustable wrench and allen key set

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 18:00:31 No.1665805 Report

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>>1665776
this post would have been perfect if you photoshopped the NORF FC guy onto the bike

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 18:19:14 No.1665810 Report

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>>1665776
It's cool that you've been able to build up a seemingly successful business, but why do you seem to have such disdain for your customers?

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 18:51:00 No.1665825 Report

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>>1665330
>for ego
Nigga
I enjoy building shit
It keeps me entertained

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 19:11:54 No.1665842 Report

Quoted By: >>1665843 >>1665891

>>1665409
>professionally assembled
It's the same shit as building a PC, you don't need a masters degree in mechanical engineering to do it. It's literally legos for grown ups, you moron

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 19:15:32 No.1665843 Report

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>>1665842
I'd say it's more meccano for grown ups

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 20:54:20 No.1665891 Report

Quoted By: >>1665912

>>1665842
>It's the same shit as building a PC

Indeed. It's also not worth wasting time on it, same as with the bicycle.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 21:28:59 No.1665912 Report

Quoted By: >>1665923 >>1665929

>>1665891
>It's also not worth wasting time on it
t. boomer who pays twice the amount for a "pro" to assemble his bike or pc

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 21:49:41 No.1665923 Report

Quoted By: >>1665926

>>1665912
Bike assembly is quite different from PC assembly with more pitfalls, bikes will benefit greatly from production line assembly.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 21:56:57 No.1665926 Report

Quoted By: >>1665940

>>1665923
>Bike assembly is quite different from PC assembly
>pitfalls
If I had not done both of these things, and was either a clueless boomer or some retarded applefag, I might have believed you.
If you have issues doing any of those you probably have room temperature IQ and you shouldn't be riding a bike or using a pc anyway
The only difference is that a bike requires some specialized tools that maybe not everyone has lying around, but the difficulty level is exactly the same

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 21:59:57 No.1665928 Report

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>>1665330
You could also source higher quality used parts. I scrounge from all over the place, yard sales and thrift shops. Bike building is a fun hobby, but it may not save you much in the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 22:02:13 No.1665929 Report

Quoted By: >>1665932 >>1665938

>>1665912
It's actually cheaper to buy the assembled products than to buy the parts and assemble them at home. It also saves time and I don't have to order 20 products from all over the world, be at home for every single delivery etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 22:07:09 No.1665932 Report

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>>1665929
They come off at about the same price, but one is souless mass produced product while the other is something you picked yourself part by part and worked on it yourself and know everything about
Not to mention the fact that you gain valuable experience with fiddling/repairing your bike while doing it, something that you'll use for the rest of your life(well, if you're a boomer, it doesn't matter since you'll be dead in a few years anyway, I guess)

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 22:17:31 No.1665938 Report

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>>1665929
>be at home for every single delivery etc
What kind of third world country doesn't allow you to pick up your parcels at the post office at your convenience?

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 22:18:20 No.1665940 Report

Quoted By: >>1665964

>>1665926
> Sites like PC Part Picker and hundreds of youtube channels which will show you exactly what to buy.
> Only real metrics are performance and price, maybe noise.
> Requires only a screwdriver to do entire assembly, and some don't even need that.
> Most parts can only be fitted the correct way
> If it works then it's pretty much good.
> Can be done in under an hour by a complete beginner.
vs

> Have to research parts and compatibility yourself, because there is no single source of info.
> Many different metrics of performance that must be considered
> Requires a set of tools
> Many ways to fuck installing parts
> Problems in assembly may only become apparent later

If anything bike building is more similar to PC building in the days when it required soldering and setting voltages by hand. Neither requires some kind of genius brain, but with bikes you get a large boost to efficiency by doing everything on a production line.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 23:05:50 No.1665964 Report

Quoted By: >>1665987 >>1665993

>>1665940
>Have to research parts and compatibility yourself, because there is no single source of info.
oh no, It's hard to look for 20 min on the internet, if only there was a "pro" strapping bike mechanic to help me
>Many different metrics of performance that must be considered
Which you must also consider when buying a preassembled bike so you know what your bike can do
>Requires a set of tools
The vast majority of which you'll need anyway to repair your shit when it brakes or to replace parts when they get worn out
>Many ways to fuck installing parts
Unless you're retarded, how? The parts nowadays and how they come togheter are made so that even idiots can work with them. From showing you how to install shit in the instruction manual, what torque slapped on the products themselves to step by step videos on yt.
>Problems in assembly may only become apparent later
It's a couple of pipes connecting two wheels, you're acting like its brain surgery. Stop being a consoomer faggot
>building is more similar to PC building in the days when it required soldering and setting voltages by hand
It's in no way like that, you just feel that way because you have no idea what you're doing and you think assembly lines or your lbs "pro" bike mechanic who probably hasn't even finished highschool is working magic.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 23:13:30 No.1665970 Report

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>>1665330
real "bike building" is about autism, not ego. don't confuse it with the instagram 90s MTBhipster shit, that's just normies attempting to symbolically immitate the authenticity of the broke shop mechanic, attempting to present yourself as cooler and more of an expert then you actually are. this is what prolly and ultraromwnce and crust are selling, a lifestyle and image for posers

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 23:17:52 No.1665972 Report

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>>1665330
People don't rebuild old bikes or over-upgrade their own because it's cheaper, it's because they enjoy the process of doing it just as much, or sometimes more, than actually riding it.
It's similar to people who buy old cars than work on them in their garage until they look brand new.
It's a hobby within the biking hobby

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 23:52:46 No.1665987 Report

Quoted By: >>1665997

>>1665964
> oh no, It's hard to look for 20 min on the internet, if only there was a "pro" strapping bike mechanic to help me
This is more than what you need for a PC where you can go on PC Part Picker and choose pretty random stuff and still end up with a functional computer. There isn't any centralized resource or guide for bike building, at least that I have found. The closest thing is Sheldon Brown's page, but that is pretty old now.
> Which you must also consider when buying a preassembled bike so you know what your bike can do
With a preassembled bike you can go and try it out and assume the manufacturer has selected parts that will work well together, if you build for yourself you will have a lot of guess work, because you won't know until you actually ride it.
> Unless you're retarded, how? The parts nowadays and how they come togheter are made so that even idiots can work with them. From showing you how to install shit in the instruction manual, what torque slapped on the products themselves to step by step videos on yt.
With a PC you don't even need to read the manual since there is only one way things go together most of the time. And you have compatibility filters, so you can't buy parts that won't fit.
> It's in no way like that, you just feel that way because you have no idea what you're doing and you think assembly lines or your lbs "pro" bike mechanic who probably hasn't even finished highschool is working magic.
You're missing the point. Assembly line construction is much more efficient here because you can take a bunch of third worlders who never even went to high school and teach them to install one part each and use specialized machinery to automate a lot of it, and you can bring down labor cost as a % of the total bike price.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 00:10:20 No.1665993 Report

Quoted By: >>1665997

>>1665964
purchasing parts makes you as much a consoomer as purchasing a complete product, you autistic faggot

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 00:17:52 No.1665997 Report

Quoted By: >>1666008

>>1665987
>assume the manufacturer has selected parts that will work well together
The manufacturer, the seller, and everyone in-between is trying to rip you off for the latest meme that you don't need. That's what you should assume
>if you build for yourself you will have a lot of guess work, because you won't know until you actually ride it
tf you on about? Once you have a frame with geometry that suits your needs you should already know what components you have to fill it up with, there is no guesswork involved. The groupsets nowadays come from a couple of big manufacturers and each category has entry, middle and high end stuff(which is exactly like cpus and gpus). Same goes for the other components like hubs, forks, stem, etc. The whole process is pretty much painless if you just spend 30 min and research your shit
>With a PC you don't even need to read the manual since there is only one way things go together most of the time
It's pretty much the same shit with bike parts, retardo. There are very few things that you can actually "install wrong", especially with modern bike component.
>You're missing the point
No, you're missing the point. Pre assembled bike are only marginally cheaper but in exchange are souls and you get no satisfaction or experience out of doing all that yourself
>>1665993
By purchasing parts I can chose what to buy, where to cheap out, where to go second hand, etc. I have full control over what I'm putting in my bike and on what I'm spending money on. Of all the prebuild bikes I had, there was absolutely none that I didn't had to change parts on in order to make it how I like them. That shit never happens with custom builds

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 00:42:12 No.1666008 Report

Quoted By: >>1666015

>>1665997
>The manufacturer, the seller, and everyone in-between is trying to rip you off for the latest meme that you don't need. That's what you should assume
The point of this entire thread is that you have a cheaper bike from a big brand than one you build yourself.
> tf you on about? Once you have a frame with geometry that suits your needs you should already know what components you have to fill it up with, there is no guesswork involved. The groupsets nowadays come from a couple of big manufacturers and each category has entry, middle and high end stuff(which is exactly like cpus and gpus). Same goes for the other components like hubs, forks, stem, etc. The whole process is pretty much painless if you just spend 30 min and research your shit
You have to know which geometry fits your needs, and then you have a lot of choices to make around other parts that will affect how your bike fits and handles.
> It's pretty much the same shit with bike parts, retardo. There are very few things that you can actually "install wrong", especially with modern bike component.
You've never seen a bike with parts fitted poorly/wrong, or heard of somebody damaging something?
> no satisfaction or experience out of doing all that yourself
So the only reason is ego?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 00:53:24 No.1666015 Report

Quoted By: >>1666020

>>1666008
>The point of this entire thread is that you have a cheaper bike from a big brand than one you build yourself.
As other have said, if you buy everything directly from brand stores rather than hunting for sales, reusing old parts you have or buying used, you'll get either the same price or slightly more expensive. I think OP misunderstood why exactly people do these builds(hint. its not the price)
>geometry fits your needs
you can test bikes at your lbs. That practice is recommended both for custom builds and prebuilds. It's not like buying a prebuild one will magically fit you if you don't know exactly what you need
>a bike with parts fitted poorly/wrong, or heard of somebody damaging something?
There are a lot of idiots out there, what s you point? I've seen people washing their hair with gorrila glue, doesn't mean from now on I'll only let a "professional hair washer" clean my hair. If you're not dead stupid, you'll probably be alright
>So the only reason is ego?
The reason is flexibility in choosing components, total control of the final product as well as the added bonus of doing things with your own hands and gaining experience from it.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 01:05:37 No.1666020 Report

Quoted By: >>1666024

>>1666015
>you can test bikes at your lbs. That practice is recommended both for custom builds and prebuilds. It's not like buying a prebuild one will magically fit you if you don't know exactly what you need
How are you going to test a custom build, since it isn't even built yet?
> There are a lot of idiots out there, what s you point? I've seen people washing their hair with gorrila glue, doesn't mean from now on I'll only let a "professional hair washer" clean my hair. If you're not dead stupid, you'll probably be alright
That doesn't mean some things aren't harder or more effort than others.
> doing things with your own hands and gaining experience from it.
If it's that easy then what is the value from experience?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 01:14:21 No.1666024 Report

Quoted By: >>1666026

>>1666020
>How are you going to test a custom build, since it isn't even built yet?
You test a bike with similar frame geometry within the same category as what you're building(entry/middle/pro level), retardo. You also draw from your previos experiences with your past bikes. Jesus, how do you put your pants on in the morning?
>some things aren't harder or more effort than others.
some are. Fortunately, bike building is not one of them
>If it's that easy then what is the value from experience?
Fixing your wifes kitchen cabinet is pretty easy, you just have to put some screws in. Yet you get more satisfaction doing it yourself rather than buying a new cabinet or calling a "pro" to fix it for you. Know what I'm saying?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 01:17:57 No.1666026 Report

Quoted By: >>1666033

>>1666024
> You test a bike with similar frame geometry within the same category as what you're building(entry/middle/pro level), retardo. You also draw from your previos experiences with your past bikes.
So you go around bike shops asking to test bikes with specific geometry and parts, and then don't even buy anything from them?
> some are. Fortunately, bike building is not one of them
Compared to what? Building rockets, no, building PCs yes.
> Yet you get more satisfaction doing it yourself rather than buying a new cabinet or calling a "pro" to fix it for you. Know what I'm saying?
No, I don't get satisfaction from doing something unless there is at least some challenge to it, otherwise it's just a chore.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 01:26:06 No.1666033 Report

Quoted By: >>1666036

>>1666026
>So you go around bike shops asking to test bikes with specific geometry and parts, and then don't even buy anything from them?
Yes. That's what testing bikes are for. But at this point I pretty much know what fits me and what I need, so am not doing that anymore
>Compared to what? Building rockets, no, building PCs yes.
I'm really curios how many bikes and how many pcs you built
>No, I don't get satisfaction from doing something unless there is at least some challenge to it, otherwise it's just a chore.
Lmao, just say you have no idea how it's done senpai. But I tell you what, building a bike yourself is definitely more challenging then buying one, that's for sure

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 01:32:10 No.1666036 Report

Quoted By: >>1666043

>>1666033
>Yes. That's what testing bikes are for. But at this point I pretty much know what fits me and what I need, so am not doing that anymore
LOL, that's not what they're for at all. I don't know anyone who does this, I think you would get kicked out pretty fast. Besides this is something you don't have to do with a PC at all, because it doesn't need to fit you.
> I'm really curios how many bikes and how many pcs you built
Bikes are mostly incremental changes to existing bikes, 2 , maybe 3 that come close to a complete build. PCs I couldn't even count since I've worked IT jobs.
> Lmao, just say you have no idea how it's done senpai.
How what is done?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 01:53:09 No.1666043 Report

Quoted By: >>1666046

>>1666036
>LOL, that's not what they're for at all. I don't know anyone who does this
Yes, that is exactly what they are for. You can even tell them you're not sure you want to buy anything, just want to see how that specific frame feels and if it's worth as upgrade.
>Bikes are [...]
big doubt, considering your attitude and what you're saying. But on the other hand, as someone who works in the IT industry, I've seen enough people here who are less mechanical inclined than actual boomers are with modern technology, so maybe it's best you just keep on buying prebuilt

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 01:59:10 No.1666046 Report

Quoted By: >>1666050

>>1666043
>Yes, that is exactly what they are for. You can even tell them you're not sure you want to buy anything, just want to see how that specific frame feels and if it's worth as upgrade.
How does this work exactly? You write down the geometry of the frame you want to buy, and then find bikes like this and measure the stems and forks etc? This is already much more effort that loading up PC Part Picker, clicking some shit and then hitting the buy button.

> big doubt, considering your attitude and what you're saying. But on the other hand, as someone who works in the IT industry, I've seen enough people here who are less mechanical inclined than actual boomers are with modern technology, so maybe it's best you just keep on buying prebuilt

You could pick a bunch of random teenagers and show about 80% of them how to build a functioning computer within a couple of hours from literally watching one youtube video and not providing any direct help. You would have much less success with bicycle assembly, assuming you have everything completely seperated. That's really the only point I'm making.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 02:11:25 No.1666050 Report

Quoted By: >>1666054

>>1666046
>and then find bikes like this and measure the stems and forks etc
What do you mean measure? The geometry of the bike comes from the angles. That shit comes with their prebuild bikes in the spec sheet and a lot of those numbers are very close depending on the type of bike(road, trail, xc, enduro). The forks are dependent on the frame(you can't put 170mm suspension fork on a frame built for 120mm forks) for example. Stem length and steerer tube widht are also somewhat dependent on the type of bike(as well as personal preference)
>You could pick a bunch of random teenagers and show about 80% of them how to build a functioning computer within a couple of hours from literally watching one youtube video and not providing any direct help
My point is that bike assembly is exactly the same. With a few videos literally anyone could put a bike together, within a few hours, provided they have the tools. I'm curious, which part of a bike assembly do you think is so complicated that the average person would have trouble with?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 02:16:36 No.1666054 Report

Quoted By: >>1666060

>>1666050
> What do you mean measure? The geometry of the bike comes from the angles. That shit comes with their prebuild bikes in the spec sheet and a lot of those numbers are very close depending on the type of bike(road, trail, xc, enduro). The forks are dependent on the frame(you can't put 170mm suspension fork on a frame built for 120mm forks) for example. Stem length and steerer tube widht are also somewhat dependent on the type of bike(as well as personal preference)
This is already more complicated.
> My point is that bike assembly is exactly the same. With a few videos literally anyone could put a bike together, within a few hours, provided they have the tools. I'm curious, which part of a bike assembly do you think is so complicated that the average person would have trouble with?
Most people wouldn't be able to correctly adjust brakes or derailleurs without some level of trial and error, or know to cut a steerer tube to the correct length and install this with the headset for example. And this assumes they even know the correct forks and headsets to use. With a PC there is nothing to tune and adjust at all unless you want to mess around with overclocking.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 02:23:48 No.1666060 Report

Quoted By: >>1666069

>>1666054
>Most people wouldn't be able to correctly adjust brakes or derailleurs without some level of trial and error
Yes they would. If your derailleur stars misfiring on the trail, you don't call your bike mechanic, you take out your multitool and fix it. there are literally step by step videos on this and it's one of the easiest things to do
>cut a steerer tube to the correct length
Why not? You go with a marker and cut a little shorter, it's not so complicated.
>install this with the headset for example
It's just about tightening a couple of screws, senpai
I have trouble thinking people would have issues with any of this and there are step-by-step tutorials on all of this, either from the Park moustache man or others.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 02:55:55 No.1666069 Report

Quoted By: >>1666115

>>1666060
>Yes they would. If your derailleur stars misfiring on the trail, you don't call your bike mechanic, you take out your multitool and fix it.
Most people would just make do with their misfiring derailleur, you're overestimating the competence of general people here.

> I have trouble thinking people would have issues with any of this and there are step-by-step tutorials on all of this, either from the Park moustache man or others.

I feel like you're completely missing the point here. For example I can go on youtube and find video tutorials on cooking almost any dish you can imagine, that doesn't mean that some dishes are not easier or harder than others. For example making a Pizza from scratch is harder than making a sandwhich, even though neither of those things are mindbogglingly difficult in the grand scale of things.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 04:15:21 No.1666115 Report

Quoted By: >>1666369 >>1666398

Just because something is simple doesn't make it easy to do well.

I definitely wasn't good at wrenching until i'd done it a lot and it showed in the outcome of a lot of what I did.

Some things you either do them or you don't do them, and the only variable skill affects is speed (like 'building' a pc), but a lot of things on a bicycle are not like that, cabling, wrapping bartape, adjusting rim brakes, adjusting bearings, truing wheels, painting,
>>1666069
making a pizza

skill and experience affect how well you do those things, not just how quickly. Even just turning bolts is something i've gotten a lot better at, having a feel for torque values and an understanding of how to deal with iffy fasteners.

I'm not gonna read all of you twos autistic discussion but I think I agree with the one guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 16:22:20 No.1666369 Report

Quoted By: >>1666389

>>1666115
Yeah, this. If you want to learn PC building then after an hour or two of education on the topic you know pretty much everything there is to know about it. There's a lot more you can learn about computers in general, but you've basically exhausted this topic in particular. For bike building you could be learning for a lot longer before you exhaust everything you could learn. That's why I used the cooking analogy, there isn't much in cooking that is "hard", but people can still study the topic for years and learn new things, that's why there's a difference between Gordon Ramsey and a total beginner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 16:48:22 No.1666389 Report

Quoted By:

>>1666369
>there's a difference between Gordon Ramsey and a total beginner.
Yes, the beginner will likely cook much better food than that hack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 17:36:31 No.1666398 Report

Quoted By: >>1666400 >>1666401

>>1666115
>wrapping bartape, adjusting rim brakes
>Even just turning bolts is something i've gotten a lot better at
lassies and gents, this is your average /n/igger, someone who thinks turning a bolt and wrapping bar tape is high art on par with being a world class chef.
This fucking place reminds me every day why, despite the fact I love bikes and biking, I absolutely despise cyclists

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 17:40:58 No.1666400 Report

Quoted By: >>1666402

>>1666398
i bet i am a much better cook than you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 17:41:03 No.1666401 Report

Quoted By: >>1666402

>>1666398
> I can't reading comprehension

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 17:45:24 No.1666402 Report

Quoted By:

>>1666400
I think you're more likely to be a cuck, rather than a cook
>>1666401
>I can't into turning bolts and wrapping bartape

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 17:56:54 No.1666412 Report

Quoted By: >>1666611

>>1665330
below 1500 it doesn't pay, above that you can build a bike thats lighter and has better wheels and components than brands
I built a 13.5 lbs chink crabon bike for about 2000 a while ago

plus its very helpful to teach yourself how to assemble and work on bikes in the process

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jun 2021 02:25:37 No.1666611 Report

Quoted By:

>>1666412
And this bike costs and weighs even less and is therefore better than yours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jun 2021 06:02:53 No.1666727 Report

Quoted By: >>1667266

>>1665330
I put together a bike that would have cost $4-5k for half that on a used frameset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jun 2021 18:32:18 No.1667008 Report

Quoted By: >>1667898 >>1667911

>>1665330
Knock yourself out.
https://bikerebuilds.com/

*protip: prepare for some cool old frames being sprinkled with high dollar hipster bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jun 2021 18:44:37 No.1667011 Report

Quoted By: >>1667053 >>1667272

>>1665776
>cranks not parallel with the ground
>tire emblems not centered to the valve stems
>rear tire mounted on the rim backwards
>presta valve stems waaaay too long for standard dish rims
>hipster water bottle holder
>rear brake lever next to front shifter, wtf
>front brake lever next to the rear shifter, wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jun 2021 19:50:21 No.1667053 Report

Quoted By: >>1667266

>>1667011
>>rear brake lever next to front shifter, wtf
Yes absolutely, rear brake is less used just like rear shifter, so goes with left hand
>>front brake lever next to the rear shifter, wtf
Again, most frequently used shifter with most frequently used lever both on right dominant hand

I have my bikes set up with front brake on the right side too, works good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jun 2021 19:52:56 No.1667054 Report

Quoted By: >>1667099 >>1667274 >>1667903

>>1665330
Why would it have grabble meme drop bars? Real MTB don't use drops they're for roadies that want to ride trails with a dusting of grit at most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jun 2021 21:33:16 No.1667099 Report

Quoted By: >>1667137 >>1667903

>>1667054
because its supposed to be a road bike with fat tires, and the easiest way to do this is an old mtb

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jun 2021 22:58:34 No.1667135 Report

Quoted By: >>1667412

>>1665776
Dude. I'm on that same path.
I can identify so much with that story. I'm just starting, but I have made several good deals on buying, restoring and selling bikes. I know I can make money if I put more effort into it.

It's so encouraging to hear that you can make a living out of this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jun 2021 23:04:53 No.1667137 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667099
Put some flats or risers and call it good, it'll look nicer too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 05:42:29 No.1667266 Report

Quoted By:

>>1666727
>my dumpster salvage project is worth the price of a new high end bike
no

>>1667053
>rear shifter is less used
dafuq?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 05:56:23 No.1667272 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667011
>>cranks not parallel with the ground
the cranks are propped on a log holding the bike up so there's a reason they are how they are
>>rear tire mounted on the rim backwards
lots of mtb tires actually suggest this on the sidewall
>>rear brake lever next to front shifter, wtf
>>front brake lever next to the rear shifter, wtf
aside from what the other anon said, that bike is actually designed for it. the cable stop is on the DS, which is unusual, and so having the rear brake on the left gives a better less sharp swoop. And the front canti stop is in the middle so it's agnostic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 05:57:37 No.1667274 Report

Quoted By: >>1667332 >>1667422 >>1667903

>>1667054
90s mtbs are abysmal 'real mtbs' they ARE gravel bikes suited for trails with a dusting of grit at most. Flat bars are fine but drop bars don't not make sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 09:45:33 No.1667332 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667274
They make sense if you use it as a road bike with offroading capability.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 13:37:59 No.1667412 Report

Quoted By: >>1667414 >>1667445 >>1667558 >>1667589

>>1667135
Ke[p at it mate, every mistake is an opportunity to learn and improve and the great thing about selling on ebay is there's no liability, list as used condition buyer takes his chances. Had one bloke messaging me because the back wheel fell off when he was riding down some hill, of course I don't want there to be anything but smailes and happiness with my bikes, smiles and happiness for me with fat profit and smiles and happiness for the gen x twat who thinks he's recapturing his long lost youth by paying over thew odds for old scrap metal, the last thing I need is any grief, so I go the extra mile, I check everything, even torque the fucking seatpost bolt ffs, but back in the early days I made a few mistakes and this guy sadly came a cropper as a result of my - and I openly admirt it - ineptitude, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing back then

But I learned and improved and now I'm banging them out twice as quick with half the complaints.
I tell them all when I close the deal, no refunds, no returns, sold as seen - simple as. That's the gamble when you buy off gumtree and ebay, we all know the risks, don't come crying to me with sob stories about broken hips and smashed I-phones, I do not want to hear it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 13:47:14 No.1667414 Report

Quoted By: >>1667415

>>1667412
>this guy sadly came a cropper
Is that bongspeak for "I killed a dude"?

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 13:50:37 No.1667415 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667414
He'll live, he'll even walk again, just not very well and probably with significant discomfort

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 14:26:31 No.1667422 Report

Quoted By: >>1667441 >>1667473 >>1667500

>>1667274
90s mtb, especially steel and rigid ones, have unmatched versatility

You can convert it easily to a capable urban bike, a touring bike, a road bike with the change of a few components like bars and tires, or just take it out and have fun off road. There is no other type of bicycle that allows you to do that so easily than a 90s mtb.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 15:03:05 No.1667441 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667422
Rigid quality steel 90's (and late 80's) mtb

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 15:27:08 No.1667445 Report

Quoted By: >>1667452

>>1667412
>sold as seen
>ebay
no such thing. I also see sellers using "as is", again, no such thing as far as ebay are concerned. You should really list as "for parts or not working" if you want to sell something "as seen", because "used" technically implies it works perfectly.
I also see a lot of phones with cracked screens listed as "used", when actually they need repair to become usable as they were intended to be used, so they should really be "for parts or not working".
see also "I only ship to your paypal address" no, fuck off, I don't even have paypal and you'll bloody well ship to the address I put in when I check out you dumb shit.
also see also "no returns, it's your fault if you don't look at the pictures properly" again, fuck off, if your description is wrong I'm sending that shit right back. I can and will just get ebay to strongarm the money out of your account without me even returning your shit if you like that.
sorry 4 the blog post I'm just tired of ebay sellers thinking the rules don't apply to them. If you don't want to play by them don't fucking sell on ebay.
(I'm talking about bong ebay, I do know amerishart ebay is is different and you can say "no refunds, as seen" on there)

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 15:35:54 No.1667452 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667445
LMAO, was it you who bought that Kona with the cracked head tube in april for £470? hahaha, he said the exact same shit but I never heard a fucking thing from ebay. You got mugged off and iut still fucking stings don't it lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 16:04:29 No.1667473 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667422
a sport-touring bike

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 17:11:05 No.1667500 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667422
they are indeed based. bridgestone mb3 for reference, this needs some smoother tires but they make a nice bike for long rides with smooth tires and drop bars

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 20:11:44 No.1667558 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667412
>I tell them all when I close the deal, no refunds, no returns, sold as seen - simple as. That's the gamble when you buy off gumtree and ebay, we all know the risks, don't come crying to me with sob stories about broken hips and smashed I-phones, I do not want to hear it.
That's all great unless they actually sue you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 21:29:32 No.1667589 Report

Quoted By: >>1667598

>>1667412
>sold a bike to an uncoordinated Autist
>he crashes it on some tram tracks later that day and snaps some hand bones
I feel sort of bad about it, maybe I should have offered a more in depth tutorial along with some basic pointers but I did not want to be overly patronizing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 21:55:04 No.1667598 Report

Quoted By: >>1667604

>>1667589
I mean I ride 5k miles a year easily and have been riding for many years and I've still crashed from tram tracks on occasion, tricky fucking bastards they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 22:01:54 No.1667604 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667598
ya sometimes its just a bad day
my last crash was not paying enough attention to how much moss had grown on the promenade boardwalk

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 05:00:28 No.1667748 Report

Quoted By:

my last crash was just riding slowly uphill into a mini skip that was on the side of the road while zoned out
wedged my front wheel under there so good i almost had to get someone to tow me out. No damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 13:52:42 No.1667890 Report

Quoted By:

>>1665776
based

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 13:59:11 No.1667898 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667008
>Knock yourself out.
>https://bikerebuilds.com/

holy shit these are all terrible. never in my life would I have guessed rebuilding 90s mtbs would bring a cringe mainstream hobby

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 14:03:44 No.1667903 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667054
>>1667099
>>1667274

The Moser in OP was built over a decade ago by an Australian commuter who was also a graphic designer, hence the good aesthetics. He had some commute over very shitty roads.

The picture was shared all over online and inspired many other people to imitate. I think he stopped using the bike after a couple years. Back then there was no option for fat tire road at the 2.0" size

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 14:18:15 No.1667911 Report

Quoted By:

>>1667008
>Knock yourself out.
>https://bikerebuilds.com/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 16:22:13 No.1667957 Report

Quoted By:

>>1665330
bike building is fun if you get to have access to specific components. building a bike with spare parts is a pain in the ass and not worth the effort, just save and buy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 23:28:22 No.1668093 Report

Quoted By: >>1668153

>>1665334
yeah it's almost like mass manufacturing reduces production costs, who would a though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 01:23:47 No.1668141 Report

Quoted By:

>>1665330
Building a bike is worth it because you can tailor it exactly how you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:10:55 No.1668153 Report

Quoted By:

>>1668093
All of those parts are still mass produced, and this isn't counting the cost of time to build the bike.

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