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Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 13:58:12 No.1673787 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1673798 >>1673805 >>1673918 >>1674026

The world needs more tunnel boring machines. NYC's tunnel borer is booked for the next 11 years. It takes over a year to build one.

Imagine how many transportation problems we could solve if we invested in tunnel borers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 14:03:25 No.1673789 Report

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Boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 14:32:17 No.1673795 Report

Quoted By: >>1673859

>burrow like worms into the flesh of Mother Earth
>buildings collapse
really makes you think.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 14:44:34 No.1673797 Report

Quoted By: >>1673799

ok Elon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 14:44:58 No.1673798 Report

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>>1673787
Sounds great, until you end up finding something you weren't supposed to find.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 14:50:16 No.1673799 Report

Quoted By: >>1673805

>>1673797
Nah Elon’s car tunnel idea is incredibly dumb. If you want less car traffic just build more subways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 15:02:27 No.1673805 Report

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>>1673787
Boring is super fucking expensive.
>>1673799
Public transport is terrible.
>muh europe
Also terrible but all roads are tiny so they think public transport is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 15:05:01 No.1673808 Report

Quoted By: >>1673814 >>1673816 >>1673996

Subway options for built cities:
-boring tunnels
-elevated rail

Other options not suitable for built cities:
-cut and cover

Tunneling is cost prohibitive, and most US cities are too built up (where mass transit is viable) for cut and cover to be an acceptable option.

That means we need to focus on elevated rail.
Since so many cities are in need of metro services, I think the best option is for the fed gov to contract out the construction of custom but standardized elevated rail. They could consult with amusement park designers or even Walt Disney World. It's fucking stupid that subways cost 100 million per mile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 15:05:11 No.1673809 Report

Quoted By: >>1673814

It’s probably the only realistic way to cure America’s traffic problems, but not if it contains personal vehicles. You could use the tunnels for subways or trucks. Trucks could actually use the tunnels and plan their trips. For personal vehicles it doesn’t really make sense though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 15:06:50 No.1673811 Report

Quoted By: >>1673814

why not fire people out of cannons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 15:20:55 No.1673814 Report

Quoted By: >>1674023

>>1673811
based retard
>>1673808
Elevated rail looks terrible and is super loud though.
Large elevated rail is as bad as large elevated freeways.
Monorails are not that bad but still bad.
>>1673809
While I agree that it is preferable to have trucks underground, trucks are almost the same height and width of a train.
What kind of tunnel are you thinking of? I can only see that making some sense with dig and cover under pre existing roads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 15:32:37 No.1673816 Report

Quoted By: >>1673829

>>1673808
>most US cities are too built up (where mass transit is viable) for cut and cover to be an acceptable option.
How so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 15:48:04 No.1673829 Report

Quoted By: >>1673831

>>1673816
Another anon here. You can only build under roads and trains can't make turns that sharp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 15:51:10 No.1673831 Report

Quoted By: >>1673867

>>1673829
>>1673829
Use cut and cover for most of the length of a street
Go deeper where you need to make turns

Most of the opposition to cut and cover comes from businesses and residents along the street to be torn up. But it's much cheaper than using a TBM

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 17:17:59 No.1673859 Report

Quoted By: >>1674122

>>1673795
The last buildings in NYC that collapsed in an unplanned fashion did so because we decided to defy Mother Earth and fly like birds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 17:53:23 No.1673867 Report

Quoted By: >>1673870

>>1673831
When you do cut and cover, can’t people still use the sidewalk?
I remember when they were doing renovations of the L train in Brooklyn they cut up the street to enter the tunnel all over but we could always use the sidewalk. Dunno if it’s different for entirely new tunnels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 17:56:27 No.1673870 Report

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>>1673867
>When you do cut and cover, can’t people still use the sidewalk?
They can, but they only will when there's no alternative. Businesses that need foot traffic will die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 19:47:39 No.1673918 Report

Quoted By: >>1673922

>>1673787
Cagies would become mole people and cyclists would own the surface.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 19:52:04 No.1673922 Report

Quoted By: >>1673925

>>1673918
Cycling tunnels would be absolutely based in areas with rough winters. It would open up a whole new world of possibilities for bike commuting. Hell you could even have an artificial tailwind pumping through the tunnels of they’re one way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 19:56:50 No.1673925 Report

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>>1673922
Those tunnels have to be ventilated anyway, just set up the fan program to move air in the desired direction

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Jun 2021 00:55:40 No.1673996 Report

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>>1673808
yeah hows elevated rail working out in Honolulu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Jun 2021 02:18:36 No.1674023 Report

Quoted By: >>1674068

>>1673814
Only old shitty elevated rail is loud. An a single elevated rail line can move far more people per hour that an elevated freeway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Jun 2021 02:24:02 No.1674026 Report

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>>1673787
>Imagine how many transportation problems we could solve if we invested in tunnel borers.
Zero.
It's literally the most expensive way to build roads or rail transportation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Jun 2021 04:54:51 No.1674068 Report

Quoted By: >>1674082

>>1674023
That's just wrong. Rail is always loud, even more so elevated over a road, passing in front of windows.
Maybe it can transport more people but it's ugly and it's inconvenient for the people that use and for the people that live and work around it.
Just build a subway or light rail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Jun 2021 06:52:35 No.1674082 Report

Quoted By: >>1674137

>>1674068
This is an outright lie and you are profoundly fucking stupid for pushing such ignorant bullshit. Repeatedly stab yourself I the throat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Jun 2021 10:40:22 No.1674122 Report

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>>1673859
>unplanned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Jun 2021 12:40:44 No.1674137 Report

Quoted By: >>1674168

>>1674082
It's not my fault you live in the middle of nowhere and has never seen a modern train.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Jun 2021 14:10:09 No.1674168 Report

Quoted By: >>1674187 >>1674340

>>1674137
Nigger, why are you still lying? You are knowingly saying shit that has been proven wrong by the reality of existing technology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Jun 2021 15:10:16 No.1674187 Report

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>>1674168
Nigger, why are you trying to pretend trains are not loud? I like trains but they are loud. Having a train pass in front of your window is a pain in the ass, not to mention ugly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Jun 2021 21:53:22 No.1674340 Report

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>>1674168
go back to >>>/pol/

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