Surly is discontinuing their
LHT (non disc)
ECR
Pugsley
and Troll

what the fuck, lht i get but the others were literally the only interesting bikes they really sold. Why is the bike industry so fucking gay its so hard to find a non suspension corrected mtb or a more touring style plus/fat bike. I feel like people haven't even tried anything but disc brakes and just automatically have a panic attack at the sight of a rim brake. I really wanted to get a pugsley or an ecr but now both those options are gone, I really didn't want to have to drop 3 grand on a fucking jones bike but looks like the only option left. >650b fat bikes are a meme, all of salsa's shit so fucking ugly and has retarded geometry, everything else is so expensive it's not even worth considering.

I thought surly was supposted to be the punk rock frame makers, theyre doing this by making all these standardized bikes that are all morphing into the same thing then? Is there any other steel bike manufacturers like that or am I just looking into custom at that point.