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Anonymous Tue 05 Oct 2021 00:26:51 No.1716294 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1716301 >>1716394 >>1716451 >>1717117 >>1717460 >>1717462 >>1717504 >>1717561 >>1720124 >>1724586

I just bought a Lectric xp 2.0, super fun and very convenient!

My only gripe is that the batter doesn’t last very long when you give it all throttle, the advertised range is 45 miles but it’s more like 10 miles if you are using the throttle, I wish it they had advertised it that way.

Does anyone know if there are any ebikes that go a substantial distance on just throttle? Just in case anyone asks I only have 1 leg so pedal assist isn’t out of the question the throttle is just easier, I just don’t understand why they don’t advertise it more clearly.

I’m considering a WAU X or a Segway X260.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Oct 2021 00:46:50 No.1716301 Report

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>>1716294

Hope you live in the UK

I own the oh WAU X and I wish everyday I had the WAU X plus.

https://www.waubike.com/products/wau-x

The xp 2.0 is cute af tho ngl

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Oct 2021 00:52:02 No.1716304 Report

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Probably best to compare battery watt hour capacities than rely on manufacturer range listings. When an Ebike is priced about the same as a non-ebike you probably aren't getting a lot of battery.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Oct 2021 07:41:46 No.1716394 Report

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>>1716294
>the advertised range is 45 miles but it’s more like 10 miles if you are using the throttle
>I just don’t understand why they don’t advertise it more clearly.
gee I wonder

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Oct 2021 09:54:47 No.1716416 Report

Quoted By: >>1717191

>>1716394
Even if the bike is just pedal assist they should post accurate ranges for both types of use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Oct 2021 12:19:50 No.1716451 Report

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>>1716294
>My only gripe is that the batter doesn’t last very long when you give it all throttle, the advertised range is 45 miles but it’s more like 10 miles if you are using the throttle, I wish it they had advertised it that way.

there is also highway vs city mileage & hills vs flat ground mileage. bikes are so much finer tuned/specced than cars. cars put out huge amounts of power and have such higher tolerances for these things so they are much less noticeable. bikes have just enough power to get your bodyweight just far enough in just the right conditions at just the right speed.
plus car manufacturers were lying about MPG all along anyway so bike manufacturers, facing even more difficult estimates, just did the same thing, no regulator is coming after them any time soon, it is up to the consumer to research and know what they are buying.

>Does anyone know if there are any ebikes that go a substantial distance on just throttle?
it doesn't matter where you are in the world, all of these bikes are the same parts, 75% are chinese from the same 2-3 factories, the rest are expensive german stuff but the performance is similar. This isn't anything new, it's 75 year old tech applied to a new medium, it is all going to be generally the same capabilities.

look into battery products like the DATEx2 / DATEx3, there is a similar product called Battery Blender but personally I've never used that one. They let you easily mix multiple batteries in parallel and give you as much range as you can afford / carry.

Also look into bikes with regen braking.

if you only have 1 leg than don't bother with anything with gears, its just more weight on the bike and more cost for something that you can't really use unless you pedal

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 04:41:41 No.1717097 Report

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If I had to guess the main problem with e-bikes for efficiency is the gigantic fucking tires (3-4") they are rolling on top of the extra weight which is 30-40 extra pounds. Add a suspension fork soaking up more energy

Then you have the battery, China sells a lot of shitty quality batteries. You might want to have the battery examined through a stress test, to check actual amp hours it can put out under load.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 05:35:41 No.1717117 Report

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>>1716294
Geared motors suck if you're just wanting to throttle. They have no thermal mass and overheat when going too fast for too long and they use way more battery at high speeds compared to a direct drive. If you want to primarily go fast and use throttle then you want to build or buy a bike with a direct drive rear hub motor. That Segway X260 is closer to what you want but it's so fucking over-priced, you can build a faster and better range ebike for half the cost. Batteries are more expensive now and harder to find high capacity though. My next dream build is 5000w direct drive with a 60a controller and a 72v45ah battery. That's 3,240 watthours of battery and the WAU X only has 900wh for comparison. With 3k watthours and being a little conservative on the throttle speed you will minimum get 100+ miles pure throttle even going up steep hills.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 10:59:50 No.1717191 Report

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>>1716416
>chinese merchants *should* do x
good luck with that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 23:52:32 No.1717460 Report

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>>1716294
Depends on how much money you want to spend, the Optibike R17 supposedly gets 100 miles on throttle only but it costs almost $14,000

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 23:55:15 No.1717462 Report

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>>1717460
>>1716294
Forgot the link.
https://optibike.com/r17/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 02:34:16 No.1717504 Report

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>>1716294

Ebike range is actually extremely complicated and variable. There is no easy fix and your best bet will always be a combination of research and experience. Extensive test rides are really much more important for ebikes than for bikes, motorcycles, or most other modes of transit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 02:43:01 No.1717508 Report

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i have a regular bike outfitted with a BionX motor

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 07:24:13 No.1717561 Report

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>>1716294
>, the advertised range is 45 miles but it’s more like 10 miles if you are using the throttle, I wish it they had advertised it that way.
That is the lesson for you.
Range of e things at 20 km/h=watt hours of the battery/20
Range of e things at 50 km/h=watt hours of the battery/40
Give or take.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 07:27:21 No.1717562 Report

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>>1717504
Easest way to compare different models is just too look at battery capacity in watt hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 14:56:42 No.1717723 Report

Quoted By: >>1718245 >>1718740 >>1718742

If you are under 60 years old and ride and e bike you are what we call a weak, scared bitch.

Either get a real bike or get a motorcycle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 23:14:38 No.1718245 Report

Quoted By: >>1724076

>>1717723
easy to say when you don't have hills

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Anonymous Mon 11 Oct 2021 07:54:19 No.1718727 Report

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thoughts on the voltbike nitro? I wanna SEAcore

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Anonymous Mon 11 Oct 2021 09:45:09 No.1718740 Report

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>>1717723
he said he has one leg mate

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Anonymous Mon 11 Oct 2021 09:49:50 No.1718742 Report

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>>1717723
dumbass

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Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 03:26:00 No.1720124 Report

Quoted By: >>1723662 >>1723668

>>1716294
i work as a mechanic and regularly work on bikes exactly like this

they are an absolute nightmare. do not buy them. The brakes were designed for regular bikes and never engineered with the power and weight of an actual motor and are generally dogshit thats actually dangerous. They don't stop for shit and most of the time bikes like this come into my shop i have to spend awhile bending the rotors back in shape.
basic maintenance like fixing a flat can be made a pain in the ass with hub drives.
components like shifters are insanely unreliable, because theyre already cheap components and its made worse by being made to handle a motor ebike being throttled at max.

also no ebike will last long with a throttle. ebikes were made to be pedal assist, throttle is added on to win over nervous new buyers. cranking the throttle constantly will drain almost any ebike fast

basically youre trying to take a bike and make it something it isnt (a moped). you're straight up cramming a circle peg into the square hole

literally just get a moped/scooter. it'll do the job cheaper, better, more reliably, and safer. i know ebikes are cool right now but this isnt what theyre for. also never get a folding bike unless you absolutely NEED the folding aspect. not "itd be handy" but literally its the only option.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 20:42:39 No.1723662 Report

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>>1720124
I have an Amazon folding mountain bike with a 7 speed freewheel gear that I put a bafang SSBHD on and tuned it to reach 50mph.
Come at me, bro :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 21:22:38 No.1723668 Report

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I have 'fond' memories of building one of these cheap folding e-bikes for a customer, back when I worked in a shop, that had internal cable routing and an internal battery. You know how you can curl ribbons with scissors to make them decorative for wrapping Christmas/birthday presents? Well, this bike's brake housing got pinched when it was packed and that cable got ultra-stuck, and there was nothing for it but to replace the whole cable and housing. I couldn't make the housing budge, so I had to yank out the cable first and when I did that, it got curled up in a spiral just like a that!

Kinda neat to see as a curiosity and I wish I'd gotten a picture, but that whole bike was such a pain in the ass it still sticks out in my memory. And that's kind of the point, like >>1720124 says these bikes suck. Guess how those sellers are hitting such low price points despite adding all the electric bits? They're cutting every corner and cheaping out everywhere they can. It's not such a big deal when this is done on kids bikes, but putting a full grown adult on a bike with garbage-tier wheels and brakes is a terrible idea. Seriously, just get a moped if that's the experience and performance you're looking for.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Oct 2021 23:46:38 No.1724076 Report

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>>1718245
Bike up them, retard.
>>1718740
Pedal straps make it very possible to bike, just stop being lazy and using it as an excuse.
>>1718742
Picrel is you defending Ebikes you lazy sack of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:41:45 No.1724586 Report

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>>1716294
what does n think of sur ron x?

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