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Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 08:27:51 No.1720559 View View Reply Original Report

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post cute utilitarian bikes that you like, no restrictions.

pic related was a French La Poste delivery bike. people who work with these have the priority to buying it when it is decommissioned.

i only saw one person irl biking with a La Poste bike while not working for them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 08:53:45 No.1720567 Report

Quoted By: >>1721859

The Riese & Müller Load 60 is probably the closest real bike to what I imagine my dream cargo bike to be, owing to its electric assist and full suspension, but if I ever gain the competence and confidence to design my own cargo bike it would incorporate the following changes:
- 20 inch wheels front and rear
- heavy duty rear rack that's 400mm from the seat to the back with footboards on both sides
- front box that's 600mm long and 400mm wide at the bottom, 380mm tall and 800mm long and 600mm wide at the top with horizonal frame rails running around it so you can more easily stack euro boxes into it and onto it, I don't know why cargo bike manufacturers design their front boxes with these odd, always slightly too small dimensions that make them useless for standardized goods like euro boxes or even just water crates and beer crates, like "oh you wanted to put two beer crates behind each other in the box and it would've needed to be 600x400mm, well we're really sorry but it's only 585x380mm"

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Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 10:36:04 No.1720590 Report

Quoted By: >>1720685

i drove this thing around nyc for a year.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 16:00:17 No.1720665 Report

Quoted By: >>1720667 >>1721809

This was the first set up of my utility bike: Surly Instigator frame/fork with an Xtracycle Free Radical kit attached. This was before cargo bikes like the Big Dummy, etc., were around.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 16:05:25 No.1720667 Report

Quoted By: >>1720669 >>1720688 >>1720698 >>1721809

>>1720665
Ended up switching out the frame/fork for a Surly 1x1 that fit a bit better than the Instigator, this is how it's set up now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 16:10:54 No.1720669 Report

Quoted By: >>1720671

>>1720667
that is cool as fuck
do you give people rides often?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 16:18:38 No.1720671 Report

Quoted By: >>1720688 >>1721809

>>1720669
Nah, just use it to haul groceries and other bike frames and parts, sometimes I find stuff that people set out by the curb that's worth lugging home. Have been setting aside parts for an electric bike project, just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 17:00:10 No.1720685 Report

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Got a buddy who delivers on this thing. Apparently it's a $10k bike.
>>1720590
Based.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 17:00:13 No.1720686 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 17:03:34 No.1720688 Report

Quoted By: >>1720702

>>1720667
>>1720671
Peak utilitarian. You're a man that's doing it right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 17:24:43 No.1720698 Report

Quoted By: >>1720703

>>1720667
Awesome ride, but that chain length makes me nervous.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 17:37:46 No.1720702 Report

Quoted By: >>1720722 >>1721809

>>1720688
Checked and thanks, Anon. It was truly a matter of necessity, was car-free and had reached the limits of racks and bags on a rigid 80's mtb and needed something capable of hauling bigger loads, esp other bike stuff. Was working at my LBS at the time, Xtracycle kits had just come out, weren't available in my state yet, so we signed up to become dealers and bought a half dozen Free Radical kits which sold out in about a week, mostly to my friends. Kept tweaking the set up until I got it dialed in, it rides so smoothly now, similar to a station wagon, it handles better with some loaded weight. It's really satisfying to load up a bike with bike frames and parts to build up other bikes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 17:39:44 No.1720703 Report

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>>1720698
Yeah, thought about adding a tensioner, but have never had a problem dropping a chain or missing a shift in 15+ years and counting (no jinx!).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 18:20:11 No.1720722 Report

Quoted By: >>1720744

>>1720702
You are like /n/ Jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 18:48:47 No.1720744 Report

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>>1720722
Checked and kek'ed. A friend of mine lives in an old warehouse that doubles as our bike workspace and storage that we call the Bike Church. We're total scroungers and always looking for bikes to refurb and get rolling again, usually older ones that no one wants anymore. They often have crappy, obsolete parts that are thrashed, so we convert most of them to single speeds for simplicity's sake and give them away. Every once in awhile you'll find one that's in pristine shape, the best score I've had recently was an 80's Miyata someone had set out on big trash pickup day that looked like it had barely been ridden, still had the little nubs on the tires, literally just lubed the chain and gave it a thorough checkup and passed along it to a friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 13:47:46 No.1721809 Report

Quoted By: >>1721814

>>1720665
>>1720667
>>1720671
>>1720702
Wow that's very interesting, I didn't know such kits existed. Or do they still exist? Maybe from other brands? How much did it cost?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 14:06:44 No.1721814 Report

Quoted By: >>1721817 >>1721823

>>1721809
The kit that I got, the Free Radical, cost about $250-300 for the the works: the frame extender, bags, etc. They made a second sturdier longtail kit (can't remember the name) that could handle larger loads more easily. For some reason they seem to have discontinued offering the kit only, now Xtracycle sells complete cargo bikes and frames; from their marketing it looks like they're trying to sell more to parents who want to haul small children as opposed to errand runners. The Xtracycle kits pop up every once in awhile on my local craigslist or on Ebay, listing for about the same as I paid originally, around $300, although some ask crazy prices. I'm not aware if another company offers something similar, most that are in the cargo bike business go with a dedicated bike/frameset rather than a conversion kit, with the really pricey electric versions getting a big push. Made a grocery run last night, pic related.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 14:10:14 No.1721817 Report

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>>1721814
Ha, operator error on the sideways pic. Here's a better one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 14:24:32 No.1721823 Report

Quoted By: >>1721827

>>1721814
Yeah, I just saw that
https://www.xtracycle.com/leap-freeradical/
>Why did you stop making the Leap?
tab.
That sucks, but I don't know if I could have bought one in Europe anyway. This would have been the cheapest option to get a cargo bike. Now it looks like you need to luck out on some used complete one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 14:28:25 No.1721827 Report

Quoted By: >>1721839 >>1721841 >>1721863

>>1721823
If you're handy with a welder and tools, or know someone who is, there are lots of vids similar to this one on youtube. A friend of mine builds Frankenbikes like this one out of old frames, which was kinda the point of the original Xtracycle kit, giving new life to otherwise unused bikes/frames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYH13St46UM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:02:33 No.1721839 Report

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>>1721827
>If you're handy with a welder and tools
Never touched a welder in my life, but I also had never touched a sewing machine before making my frame bag... there's a first to everything. Would be a nice new skill to have too, same as it being nice that I know how to sew now. Video you sent is glorious and yeah I know some people DIY these cargo bikes. That's very cool.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:03:37 No.1721841 Report

Quoted By: >>1721852 >>1722107

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:17:50 No.1721852 Report

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>>1721841
Nice bag, well done!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:32:17 No.1721859 Report

Quoted By: >>1721867

>>1720567
>euro boxes
looks like square route of 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:40:03 No.1721863 Report

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>>1721827
one thing about the extra cycle is that at least you dont have to become a butcher

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:02:10 No.1721867 Report

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>>1721859
>>1721859
They're quite similar to DIN paper formats and their doubling sizes (with ~sqrt2 aspect ratio so the aspect ratio remains the same), but euro boxes don't have such an aspect ratio, they range from 200x150 to 800x600 so the aspect ratio switches between 4:3 and 3:2 with every doubling, with the most useful sizes probably being 400x300 (the same as medium veggie crates, large beer crates and a lot of water crates) and 600x400 (the same as large veggie crates). Commonly available heights range from 70mm to 320mm in 50mm steps, no idea how this came to be, with beer crates being 300mm tall and water crates being up to 370mm tall. They're also available with a wide variety of clear sides, opening side lids, open sides, carrying handles or different types of top lids. Also 400x300 euroboxes are the perfect size to fit into IKEA's IVAR shelving system with its 400x300 and 800x300 shelves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 03:38:43 No.1722107 Report

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>>1721841
Welding can be quite easy provided you have a good source to teach you the fundamentals and A LOT of practice. Practice can mean collecting scrap steel and welding the shit out of it or getting a part time job at a welding shop.

I wouldn't recommend practicing on anything you care about because it takes quite a while to get the "feel" for welding and have your welds turn out without imperfections and aesthetically pleasing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 04:59:58 No.1722119 Report

Quoted By: >>1722120

Thanks to this thread, I'm thinking of picking up an errand runner to grab some groceries and some burgers. Would a Beach Cruiser be an inexpensive start? I like the aesthetics of a few I have seen with rear and even front racks, or should I look to a more efficient road bike? Anything I should look out for, like a certain number of gears or brake type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 05:06:29 No.1722120 Report

Quoted By: >>1722123

>>1722119
A beach cruiser would good only if you lived in a very flat place, otherwise hills would eat you up, plus if it has a coaster brake your stopping power would be limited esp under a heavy load. Suggest an older rigid mtb rather than a road bike, lower center of gravity and slightly smaller wheels so you can ride on wider tires, generally sturdier frame would be less whippy with a load. If road bike is all you can find, then go with that as it beats nothing at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 05:33:08 No.1722123 Report

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>>1722120
Thanks for the tips! I’ll see what the usual sites have around my area. Hopefully some cheap stuff so I don’t feel bad when it gets looted

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