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Anonymous Wed 03 Nov 2021 18:35:29 No.1728028 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1728029 >>1728129 >>1728150 >>1728342 >>1728391 >>1728967 >>1728971 >>1729409 >>1729987

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FORGET ALL THAT TWIN ENGINE NONSENSE. I HAVE ME A PIPER COMANCHE 400. 8 CYLINDERS THAT WILL MAKE YOUR NEIGHBORS THINK YOU FLY A WARBIRD. 185KTS AT 25GPH, YEA ITS EXPENSIVE BUT ITS A MANS PLANE. NO TIRE KICKERS, NO ROBOTS, NO G1000 FANCY NONSENSE INSTRUMENTATION. JUST GOOD OL FASHION STEAM GAUGES. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS!!’n

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Nov 2021 18:38:02 No.1728029 Report

Quoted By:

>>1728028
Based

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Nov 2021 20:44:22 No.1728061 Report

Quoted By: >>1729345

>passes you while burning half the gas

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 01:25:21 No.1728129 Report

Quoted By: >>1729409

>>1728028

Don't those have constant problems with overheating?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 02:20:40 No.1728150 Report

Quoted By:

>>1728028
>JUST GOOD OL FASHION STEAM GAUGES.
They really are easier to read and look better than screens

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 15:21:28 No.1728342 Report

Quoted By:

>>1728028
SINGLE ENGINE BAD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 17:50:11 No.1728391 Report

Quoted By: >>1728395 >>1728907 >>1728929 >>1728932

>>1728028
HEY CARL THAT PIPPER LOOKIN GOOD BRO I GOT THE VTAIL OUT OF THE HANGER TO WIPE ER DOWN GOOD STILL WAITING FOR THE BONE CRAKER TO GIMME THE AOK WITH MY BEETUS TO GET MY TICKET BACK LOL I SEEN DAREL PRANGED THAT SKYHAWK AGIN LOL MISS THEM 100$ DOLLER LUNCHES LOL CAVOO BORTHER

RANDY "SLIM" HOWARD III
69' CHEVELLE SS RED 369
94' OLDS SLLOWETT MINIVAN (BALL AND CHAIN LOL(
67' BEACH BARRON
USMC RESERVE OCT 79 JAN 80 HOORA
MAGA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 17:57:13 No.1728395 Report

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>>1728391
>94' OLDS SLLOWETT MINIVAN (BALL AND CHAIN LOL(
>USMC RESERVE OCT 79 JAN 80 HOORA
fuckin lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 04:38:46 No.1728907 Report

Quoted By:

>>1728391
>MAGA
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 06:52:22 No.1728929 Report

Quoted By: >>1728962

>>1728391
A "Baron" (single r) is the twin, and doesn't come in a V-Tail. The V-tail is called a "Bonanza" and apparently if you own either you have to autistically use it's model number every time it's mentioned.
I'd spoil this, but I don't think that works on this board sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 08:08:02 No.1728932 Report

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>>1728391
You forgot these on your signature :
>My daughters are dating afro-americans and I am proud of it.
>Donations to Israel since the beginning of the year : 202.338$

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 10:14:32 No.1728962 Report

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>>1728929
don't worry you're spoiling it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 10:26:46 No.1728967 Report

Quoted By: >>1729016

>>1728028
>Glass cockpit
>the displays just emulate stream gauges anyway
I understand that everyone is used to steam gauges but surely with digital displays we can come up with better or more efficient ways to show the same information

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 10:57:05 No.1728971 Report

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>>1728028
how can one op be this based??
Singles are awesome man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 15:37:52 No.1729016 Report

Quoted By: >>1729031 >>1729202

>>1728967
>with digital displays we can come up with better or more efficient ways to show the same information
We didn't. They're mostly a failure that we refuse to acknowledge.
>helped to massively raise the cost of airplanes
>information is better presented, but the sacrifice was easier operation
>now less time for new pilots is spent flying and more time trying to work the digital displays
>flying is less important than digital display management
>better displays mean easier to interpret, which means less headwork required for flying (outside said programming) which leads to lack of attention to the flying task.
>andvanced autopilots require more skills to operate, but the tradeoff is less skills for manually flying
>the accident rate for digital display aircraft remains basically unchanged from classic steam gauges, highlighting that steam gauges were equivalently safe
>but now everything costs more, so pilots fly less, and training is more expensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:20:31 No.1729031 Report

Quoted By: >>1729198

>>1729016
The increase in the cost of flying hasn’t nothing to do with the higher tech instrumentation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Nov 2021 09:58:53 No.1729198 Report

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>>1729031
why even come back with... this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Nov 2021 10:35:56 No.1729202 Report

Quoted By: >>1729205

>>1729016
>>information is better presented, but the sacrifice was easier operation
>>now less time for new pilots is spent flying and more time trying to work the digital displays
The solution to this is to present the information in the better way, but have the operations be more classic tactile type. Shouldn't be a big issue. It's a solvable problem.

>>better displays mean easier to interpret, which means less headwork required for flying (outside said programming) which leads to lack of attention to the flying task.
This is just a bullshit retrogrouch argument. You might as well claim that every technical improvement since the Wright Flyer has led to decreased skill and attention to the flying task and increased cost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Nov 2021 10:39:55 No.1729205 Report

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>>1729202
>Shouldn't be a big issue. It's a solvable problem.
But it's not being solved

>This is just a bullshit retrogrouch argument.
So is that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Nov 2021 16:02:15 No.1729292 Report

Quoted By: >>1729308 >>1729334

i hate poor pilots so much, flying their old slow shitboxes around clogging up air traffic

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Anonymous Sun 07 Nov 2021 16:45:06 No.1729308 Report

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>>1729292
YUP, THIS ONE'S SEETHING *SIP*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Nov 2021 18:18:47 No.1729334 Report

Quoted By: >>1729412

>>1729292
yeah I'm gonna be extending my downwind

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Nov 2021 18:50:24 No.1729345 Report

Quoted By:

>>1728061
>while leaking the other half

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Nov 2021 21:00:35 No.1729397 Report

Quoted By: >>1729409 >>1729990

Could someone give me a QRD on the strengths/weaknesses/reputation of the main GA manufacturers?
Piper
Cessna/Beechcraft
Mooney
Cirrus
Diamond

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Nov 2021 21:47:01 No.1729409 Report

Quoted By: >>1729421

>>1728129
If you are overheating, you aren’t flying fast enough.
>>1728028
>NO G1000 FANCY NONSENSE INSTRUMENTATIO
>VOR to VOR
That’s unsustainable at the rate they are being decommissioned.
>>1729397
>strengths/weaknesses/reputation
They are all beholden to regulatory capture. The cost to certify is so high, the technology stagnates. You are flying 1950s shit boxes for $500k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Nov 2021 21:50:23 No.1729412 Report

Quoted By: >>1729421

>>1729334
THIS IS CIRRUS N166ER IM ON UHHHHHH 11 MILE STRAIGHT IN UHHHHHHH RUNWAY 24 ANY TRAFFIC IN THE AREA PLEASE ADVISE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Nov 2021 22:16:15 No.1729421 Report

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>>1729409
>They are all beholden to regulatory capture. The cost to certify is so high, the technology stagnates. You are flying 1950s shit boxes for $500k
I understand. Just wanted to know more about the companies from a pilot's or owner's perspective as someone viewing GA from the outside.

>>1729412
>CIRRUS N166ER
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Nov 2021 06:27:30 No.1729987 Report

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>>1728028
Singles are based but the government doesn't let me fly them outside of gliding distance from shore which is a bit inconvenient.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Nov 2021 06:32:45 No.1729990 Report

Quoted By: >>1730013

>>1729397
Let me give you the first thing that pops into my head when I think of each of these brands. Disclaimer: may not be accurate just my initial pilot's impression having only flown Cessna and Beech products.

Piper - Smol
Cessna - Reliable Shitbox
Beech - Expensive
Mooney - Defunct
Cirrus - Haha CAPS go brrrr
Diamond - Owned by the Chinks

Did most of my flight training on Cessna 172s, which are probably the most basic bitch airplane I can think of, the only thing cheaper is a shitbox 150/152. Flying multi on the Beech Baron was a ton of fun, compared to other GA twins it's a rocket ship. Still flies like a brick though if you lose an engine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Nov 2021 09:29:45 No.1730013 Report

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>>1729990
ty anon

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