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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 10:47:51 No.1814076 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1814252 >>1814338 >>1814687 >>1818621 >>1818624 >>1818864 >>1819703 >>1822163

What do you do when building bike infrastructure makes your streets even more dangerous?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 10:48:30 No.1814077 Report

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ride on sidewalks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 11:07:42 No.1814085 Report

Quoted By: >>1814087

>Berliners dying
That's good infrastructure though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 11:17:40 No.1814087 Report

Quoted By: >>1814088

>>1814085
Its the solution to solving the housing crisis in Berlin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 11:19:35 No.1814088 Report

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>>1814087
We will live in the pods soon, that will be far more space-efficient than anything else, even better than killing off people en masse, which will happen too, but you WILL live in the pod and eat the bugs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 11:58:26 No.1814101 Report

Quoted By: >>1814157 >>1814233 >>1814247 >>1818278

Bike lanes make intersections more dangerous unless you make them Dutch-style, but apparently local politicians either don't care or don't know and then use the increased mortality as an argument against bike lanes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 14:48:26 No.1814157 Report

Quoted By: >>1814197 >>1814692

>>1814101
>does it wrong
>it doesn’t work
SEE?!!?!!? BIKE BAD!!!!!!! BUY MY FUCKING CAR!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 17:03:56 No.1814197 Report

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>>1814157
yes that exactly what the post you replied to said, without the reddit sperging

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 17:05:51 No.1814198 Report

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Or maybe it's simply correlated to the rise in ridership numbers? That said more measures regarding trucks are probably a good step. Seemingly half the time you read about a cyclist dying in traffic they got run over by a truck turning right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 18:29:32 No.1814228 Report

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the only solution is to to either phase out the car or to give completely distinct and separate paths for bikes. Cars are just way too dangerous.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 18:36:39 No.1814233 Report

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>>1814101
crosswalk buttons on all the local intersections say "WAIT" in a loud robot voice. these buttons are actually touch capacitive metal arrows so you can really tap away on that thing if you get the rythm right
>WAIT WAIT WAITWAIWAWAIT WAIT WAITWAIT
and i know you can hear that shit if your windows are down because i also enjoy my cars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 18:57:29 No.1814247 Report

Quoted By: >>1819303

>>1814101
This. Something has to be done about the Copenhagen-menace. They're annihilating bike infrastructure by promoting their dogshit instead of the Netherlands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 19:04:25 No.1814252 Report

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>>1814076
Know what would keep cyclists safer than bike lanes? Ticket anyone with a smartphone in their hand while driving 10000 dollars/Euros every time a cop catches them. Make smart phones feel like they're dangerous to even hold. Can't pay? Lose your car and start riding the bus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 21:27:34 No.1814338 Report

Quoted By: >>1814403 >>1814820 >>1818282

>>1814076
>ban cars
it's literally that easy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2022 00:02:04 No.1814393 Report

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The answer is quality public transportation but that'll never happenen because it cuts into the profit of the car jews and even if they were actually made it would be privately owned by another big jewish company that'll lobby to make everything else nonavailabile. In Mexico there's this privately owned buses that run certain rutes, these busses were owned by the driver and it was like a family business thing, there were fucked over by private companies that wanted to run the same routes and lobbied the small busses out, the infrastructure that was built to run this big company busses just made the traffic worse since it would steal a whole line from the already small avenues of the city and you can't get anything else but a cab, it's practically a monopoly on transportation.
I hate jews like you wouldn't believe
Greetings from Mexico

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2022 00:43:08 No.1814403 Report

Quoted By: >>1814621

>>1814338
Better ban death too just to be safe. And if that still doesn't work just ban people who aren't you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2022 14:56:37 No.1814621 Report

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>>1814403
Meds aren't banned, so why don't you take them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2022 15:00:37 No.1814623 Report

Quoted By: >>1814871

Traffic fatalities increase in the US during the pandemic as traffic volume fell. Congestion saves lives, start removing traffic lanes!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2022 17:18:53 No.1814687 Report

Quoted By: >>1822141

>>1814076
decrese the things causing the deaths eg the cars and trucks. heavy vehicle should really be be banned or restricsted from town and city centres.
that also includes buses.
fuck buses

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2022 17:27:50 No.1814692 Report

Quoted By: >>1818272 >>1819455 >>1819755

>>1814157
>needing to rely on the magical gubberment fairy to come down and gift you and your small niche the perfect solution to a problem or else you die
yeah, buy a car.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2022 22:58:35 No.1814820 Report

Quoted By: >>1814826

>>1814338
https://youtu.be/rSSNlM3Au1A

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2022 23:23:56 No.1814826 Report

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>>1814820
this is a joke post, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2022 01:35:09 No.1814871 Report

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>>1814623
speeding and reckless driving also rose in tandem. You had less cars (only for a little while anyways) but those cars were more out of control. I can't speak to everywhere but in NYC we are basically at or even beyond pre-covid volume levels and deaths keep rising and breaking the Vision Zero downward trend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2022 14:11:07 No.1818272 Report

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>>1814692
>price of gas increases just a tad
nooooooooooo, this can't be happening, my heavily subsidised vehicle is still way cheaper than if the actual costs had to be paid by only drivers,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2022 14:19:53 No.1818278 Report

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>>1814101
Even Dutch style infrastructure makes the intersections more dangerous. It's unbelievable how fucking blind drivers are to anything that isn't a car coming from a "car" road. The only thing that makes separate bike infrastructure safe is over and underpasses so you never intersect with the road.

Over 95% of all my close calls are on bike path/road intersections. Even though bike paths are like 10% of my total mileage. It's fucking unreal how dangerous they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2022 14:43:28 No.1818282 Report

Quoted By: >>1818286 >>1818851 >>1818857 >>1819672

>>1814338
>We aren’t coming for your card we just want more bike, pedestrian, and rail infrastructure
>Ban cars
Car free people should be killed on principle

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Jun 2022 15:13:40 No.1818286 Report

Quoted By: >>1818550 >>1818564

>>1818282
Fuck you and your pod, we can't ban cars soon enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2022 00:20:17 No.1818550 Report

Quoted By: >>1818634

>>1818286
some people actually have places to be

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2022 01:27:40 No.1818564 Report

Quoted By: >>1818634

>>1818286
get a job

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2022 05:20:56 No.1818621 Report

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>>1814076
>What do you do when building bike infrastructure makes your streets even more dangerous?
take the lane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2022 05:21:56 No.1818624 Report

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>>1814076
take the lane

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2022 06:52:25 No.1818634 Report

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>>1818550
>>1818564
>be a slave like me
Not an argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2022 20:07:46 No.1818851 Report

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>>1818282
>cars kill millions
>injure millions more
>create noise pollution
>create air pollution
>require costly infrastructure
>are unnecessary
But let's kill the people NOT contributing to the aforementioned problems because my cool ride is more important than your air and your lives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2022 20:22:26 No.1818857 Report

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>>1818282
Gas yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2022 20:29:08 No.1818864 Report

Quoted By: >>1818883

>>1814076
honestly the false sense of security these painted gutters is more dangerous than cycling on the interstate. people think just because this slide of road has blue paint on it that they are invulnurable or something.

either go full dutch style seperated bike paths or dont even bother

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2022 20:49:48 No.1818883 Report

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>>1818864
Dutch infra really isn’t that safe either. The only solution is to ban cars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2022 18:25:51 No.1819303 Report

Quoted By: >>1819555

>>1814247
What's wrong with cycling in Copenhagen? I've heard many people claim it's bad. I didn't have many complaints at all when I lived there but I haven't been to the Netherlands for comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2022 22:56:16 No.1819455 Report

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>>1814692
ah yes because the goverment has never come up with solutions to make you safer in your car

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2022 02:44:24 No.1819555 Report

Quoted By: >>1819969

>>1819303
I tried googling why it's bad and unfortunately didn't find anything except for this hilarious article in typical British rag style https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2011/sep/09/copenhagen-cycling-congestion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2022 08:14:56 No.1819672 Report

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>>1818282
>I will drive in the cage
>I will work in the cube
>I will sleep in the pod
>I will own nothing
>and
>I
>Will
>Be
>Happy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2022 10:30:28 No.1819703 Report

Quoted By: >>1822754

>>1814076
as I've always said, road segregation only increases the animosity between cyclists and motorists. the only solution is to educate both sides properly (so that cars respect bicycles as vehicles, and bicycles behave as such), decrease city speed limits, and ENFORCE LAWS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2022 12:09:00 No.1819755 Report

Quoted By: >>1822769

>>1814692
>literally this for 100 years prior but for cars
yeah, build the infrastructure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2022 21:43:15 No.1819969 Report

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>>1819555
I had some free time so I looked into this more and discovered the "Copenhagen left", which I didn't know had a name and which didn't stick out to me much when I was there. Thinking about it more, that does seem bad, and I was lucky most of my routes didn't have many left turns.

nobump cuz this aint my blog

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jul 2022 21:38:21 No.1822141 Report

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>>1814687
I (and several others) nearly got run over by a bus at my university while we were all standing on the sidewalk waiting to cross an intersection. You can only trust a bus as much as you can trust the driver to not be a nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jul 2022 22:40:50 No.1822163 Report

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>>1814076
Anything that kills cyclists is good for me

>t have to put up with retard bicycles in the city

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 23:25:21 No.1822735 Report

Quoted By: >>1822754

i refuse to use bike lanes on roads. I will ride on a cycle path if it is seperate e.g. overpasses and underpasses.

Bike lanes add a level of complexity to blind spot checking for cars which is too much to ask of them. They add danger at intersections when they are implemented in a half assed way ontop of existing infrastructure - worst of all is roundabouts. They are also slower - I am confined to a smaller lane so my maximum safe speed is lower, I have to wait at the lights for my special time to go which is normally at a lower priority than cars. The most infuriating shit is when the bike lane crossing is tied to pedestrian crossing. If i was on the road I would be straight thru this intersection. Because im in the bike lane I am punished by having to stop-start heaps more.

I ride on the road. When there is a big hill and no overtaking lane, i pull off to the sidewalk since im going up the hill slow anyway. I ride on a cyclepath that incorporates overpasses and underpasses and is generally seperate to the intersections of the road network.

If you really want to make cities safe for bicyclists (and pedestrians), just make the city speed limit 40km/h; and actually enforce this speed limit. No need for bicycle lanes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:39:14 No.1822754 Report

Quoted By: >>1822761

>>1822735
>>1819703
>uh, all you need to do is enforce traffic laws
That only realistically works in small towns where cops have literally nothing else going on (and they do enforce traffic laws). It doesn't work in cities where people are getting assaulted, murdered, or what have you. What's your solution for a city that has more stoplights than you count on a hand?

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Not Your Dad REEEEE !!OS7PxlLkFR/ Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:39:25 No.1822755 Report

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Reading through this thread, I'm surprised at how many reasonable people (aka vehicular cyclists) there are on /n/. I thought it was all shit for brains batavophiles. Thank you for not being crazy, not going to quote anyone specific because you know who you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:49:21 No.1822761 Report

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>>1822754
>What's your solution for a city that has more stoplights than you count on a hand?
I argued for enforcing city speed limits not enforcing all laws. I think if you just had "high pedestrian activity zone 40km/h" signage that would be enough, the vast majority of drivers are happy to go 40k in school zones and in city centres.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 01:20:55 No.1822769 Report

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>>1819755
>literally this for 100 years prior but for cars
>literally this
>so much this

It's just not FAIR, is it?

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