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Anonymous Sat 25 Jun 2022 17:04:24 No.1817067 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1817071 >>1817101 >>1817109 >>1817429 >>1817450 >>1817471 >>1819435 >>1819449 >>1819929 >>1819994 >>1821263 >>1821297

What the fuck is going on with the current travel chaos? Post covid flying has become even a bigger nightmare than it already was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jun 2022 17:16:24 No.1817071 Report

Quoted By: >>1817085 >>1821256

>>1817067
1. Air travel is restricted because of COVID
2. Greedy airlines & airports lay of thousands of low wage workers.
3. 2020-2022 happens
4. Suddenly, air travel is back again!
5. Greedy airlines & airports try to rehire thousands of low-wage workers.
6. ???
7. Fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jun 2022 17:38:42 No.1817085 Report

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>>1817071
>Low salary security worker being based and flipping the finger to the whole system

Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jun 2022 17:59:39 No.1817101 Report

Quoted By: >>1817457

>>1817067
Its the population bomb working its magic. Covid accelerated things, but this was always going to happen. There are millions and millions of boomers who want to go on vacation and have the money to do it, so demand for flights is at an all time high. At the same time you have a declining labor force participation rate in the 20-35 year old demographic and cost of living is so out of proportion with the pay from shit jobs like being a baggage handler, that almost nobody is willing to work these jobs and airports are massively understaffed. Airports are even harder hit that the rest of the service industry right now because airports are usually 20+ miles from city centers, and gas is so expensive that commuting that distance to work for just over minimum wage isn't even profitable unless you have a super efficient car. If cities had reliable, cheap public transportation that might help get more people working minimum wage jobs, but transportation in the US is a joke

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jun 2022 18:21:17 No.1817109 Report

Quoted By: >>1817129 >>1817432

>>1817067
>Post covid flying
it's not "post" covid is still here, less people die, but millions still get very sick, this alone is enough to cause problems, add greedy airlines, inflation and workers who are sick of all this shit. BOOOOM!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jun 2022 19:29:17 No.1817129 Report

Quoted By: >>1817430

>>1817109
Literally no one gets very sick anymore you paranoid schizophrenic effeminate retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2022 12:08:46 No.1817429 Report

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>>1817067
>been on business trip
>flight back to MUC delayed by 2h
>need to stay on plane in MUC because muh rain
>2.5h delay
>follow up flight delayed by 1h
>at boarding time flight gets cancelled
>MUC staff telling people to take the train
>many need to go >1k km lol
>I can take the train
>lol nope all trains booked until tomorrow
>maybe rental car but lol nope
>need to stay the night and take train tomorrow
>meanwhile my luggage got lost
>LH hotline waiting time 7h
>can't help me, luggage delayed until after G7
Next continental trip I go by car, fuck flying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2022 12:18:40 No.1817430 Report

Quoted By: >>1817435 >>1821241

>>1817129
>accidently projects its own problems in an attempt to insult another
classic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2022 12:19:36 No.1817432 Report

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>>1817109
The much bigger "pandemic" is the pandemic of idiots whose brains were permanently broken in 2020.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2022 12:23:48 No.1817435 Report

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>>1817430
Covid is a joke you retarded nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2022 13:35:22 No.1817450 Report

Quoted By: >>1817456

>>1817067
>flying has become even a bigger nightmare than it already was.
How so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2022 14:08:19 No.1817456 Report

Quoted By: >>1817458

>>1817450
hundreds of flights canceled every day. the scumbag airlines took bailout money and used it to buy stocks instead of keeping staff. now they don't have the pilots or most of the other staff to meet demand. but they still sell all the tickets anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2022 14:10:16 No.1817457 Report

Quoted By: >>1817614

>>1817101
>"the US"
>Gatwick airport
lmao holy rent free
also I appreciate you have a narrative to spout but gatwick has a railway station literally IN the airport (as do a lot of airports in bongistan); is that not some sort of /n/ holy grail?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2022 14:12:15 No.1817458 Report

Quoted By: >>1817600

>>1817456
>airlines took bailout money and used it to buy stocks instead of keeping staff.
>don't have the pilots or most of the other staff to meet demand. but they still sell all the tickets anyway.
uh... based?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2022 14:49:06 No.1817471 Report

Quoted By: >>1819449

>>1817067
The problem is that the government is letting the airlines get away with canceling the flights.

It would be really simple for the airlines to simply employ the correct number of people. They might have to increase wages to do that, but it's not going to drive them into insolvency.

They have simply found that understaffing and canceling flights while relying on the existing available workers is a better way to make more money. People have to fly so pissing off customers is no big deal, especially when everyone is doing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2022 21:19:40 No.1817600 Report

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>>1817458
No anon, not based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2022 21:51:37 No.1817614 Report

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>>1817457
to add to this a lot of (probably most) airport jobs will offer free or heavily subsidised train/bus tickets to ease commuting
we still have the cost of living shit though - gatwick specifically, if you want to live within a ~1hr commute you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere to live under £900 a month. Thats half your salary gone on your shitty studio flat before any of your other bills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2022 22:09:42 No.1819435 Report

Quoted By: >>1819437

>>1817067
senior pilots retire after covid layoffs
other laid off pilots get hired by air cargo outfits
laid off ground crews find other employment and no longer willing to put up with airline shit show.
Shitty training for new hires who dont give a shit anyway.
what could go wrong? CEOs getting multi-million $$$ bonus packages no matter how fucked up shit is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2022 22:11:43 No.1819437 Report

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>>1819435
Basically this. We need to start holding management accountable. Fucking MBA airheads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2022 22:39:53 No.1819449 Report

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>>1817067
>>1817471
It's not that simple, hiring and training new people takes time, it's a shit show because a lot of the workers now are noobs working long hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2022 19:38:33 No.1819929 Report

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>>1817067
The airlines played chicken with their workers over the vaccine mandates and are now losing.

Fuck them. I'm not flying again for a very long time. Maybe if the birdies start falling out of the sky mid-transit, then everyone will wake up and see the hoodwink.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2022 22:22:57 No.1819994 Report

Quoted By: >>1821242 >>1821252

>>1817067
>WHY CAN'T I BE THROWN INTO ANOTHER CONTINENT AND HAVE MY BACKPACK LAND RIGHT INTO MY HANDS?
Flight is a ridiculous luxury and should be reserved for academics, diplomats and leaders, people on (actual) business trips, and athletes. The wuflu literally wouldn't spread if it weren't for cheap flight. I hate people who go abroad every single year for a vacation. It is against human nature, it is against the environment, it is wasteful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 19:16:08 No.1821241 Report

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>>1817430
>accidentally indicates that they have experience projecting onto others in how cannily they identify others' supposed projections.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 19:18:34 No.1821242 Report

Quoted By: >>1821254

>>1819994
>includes academics and athletes as important
>is probably some skinny gook asian failed academic who plays volleyball

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 19:30:26 No.1821252 Report

Quoted By: >>1821254

>>1819994
>Restrict flight to people who actually matter
>Since people who actually matter are a tiny percent of a tiny percent of people, this isn't actually a market
>No longer enough flight going on to sustain having airports, pilot training academies or aerospace construction factories
>Revert solely to private flight economy
>Be surprised when, 10 years later, planes just stop getting made altogether, because it isn't worth building them in small batch by highly paid engineers without economy of scale
>Lose the ability to fly altogether
>???
>Profit?

Selling cars, automobiles, and all the other tech of the modern world to the vast swathes of normal people on the planet is what made these technologies efficient, profitable and useful. If you stop selling these things to normies, there's no longer any point to having the industry at all. It will never be profitable to start a car company to sell planes to the 2,000 people or so that can afford a multi million dollar private flying machine. Even assuming that every single person that can buy one, does buy one. The economy of scale is what makes private ownership cheap enough to be practical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 19:34:40 No.1821254 Report

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>>1821252
Bullshit. Planes were commercially viable even in the 40s. Even going back to 90s level of the amount of aviation will be a huge step in decreasing CO2 emissions and making it less likely to spread diseases.
>>1821242
My point still stands if you exclude them as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 19:37:32 No.1821256 Report

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>>1817071
This

I used to work as a flight attendant 6 months ago here in north bongistan, now I earn twice as much working a shitty office job and i don't have to wake up at 3am

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 19:58:18 No.1821263 Report

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>>1817067
Good, I hope we see the end of civil aviation soon enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 20:56:19 No.1821297 Report

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>>1817067
shame they require the injection to get a job there.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2022 23:28:09 No.1821689 Report

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Just got done unstucking myself from getting stranded at O'Hare Chicago trying to get back to San Francisco for work and having that flight move gates and times before getting cancelled. The best I managed was getting an Los Angeles flight in 2 hours and a 12 hour layover. It's going to be a long wait. Pic related was the physical line I had to wait in 1.5 hours+ trying to get to the help desk at the red sign while I was calling the service hotline to reschedule my flight which ended up making the waiting in line obsolete. I can't see it getting worse without people wanting the government to intervene, I was near my limit today and I'm usually a patient person when it gets this bad.

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