>>1823309Horizontal top tubes and legacy brakes look better. Sloping top tube, dropped seatstays, dick brakes, and aero tubing look terrible.
If your position was that modern bikes suck because aesthetics are important too, I wouldn't necessarily say you're wrong. Is that your position? It seemed like you were trying to make an argument about something else but I just did a quick skim of the thrad and I am not seeing any specific claims other than "horizontal good" which admittedly I may be reading into more than I should.
What are you really trying to say? Are you just talking about how it looks?