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Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 20:39:27 No.1823106 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1823114 >>1823130 >>1823178 >>1823254

The absolute state of modern bycicles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 21:04:23 No.1823114 Report

Quoted By: >>1823124

>>1823106
The idea is to be able to make them shorter and give them more ground clearance for the same standover

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 21:35:33 No.1823124 Report

Quoted By: >>1823125

>>1823114
There's nothing stopping them from making the tube shorter and nothing stopping you from tilting it to stand over it. The idea is to cut costs and extend less frame sizes over a wider range of plebs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 21:37:24 No.1823125 Report

Quoted By: >>1823212

>>1823124
My road bikes are both horizontal top tube as I prefer it but I was explaining to you why since you asked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 21:45:51 No.1823130 Report

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>>1823106
The 4 objects posted before the bicycle are objects of peak performance while the specific bike you posted with a sloping top tube is a cost cutting technique so a single frame size can accommodate a wider range of people by just changing the stem lengths, instead of having to rely on a wider range of frame sizes which increase manufacturing costs significantly. Look at other bikes that strive to achieve peak performance, they have straight top tubes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 01:05:27 No.1823178 Report

Quoted By: >>1823212

>>1823106
Because it's more comfortable because longer seatpost. Rider position is 80-90% of aero, wheels are most of the rest, followed by frame, a small fraction of which is top tube angle. Actual racers who already have inch-thick callouses on their taint can buy the models with horizontal top tubes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 03:15:33 No.1823212 Report

Quoted By: >>1823226

>>1823125
I'm not asking why. I didn't make the image. I'm commenting on the absolute state of modern bicycles.
>>1823178
I want a correctly structured bike whether I'm an actual racer or not so you can imagine my saltiness when outside of actual racing they no longer seem to exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 04:10:31 No.1823226 Report

Quoted By: >>1823285

>>1823212
>correctly structured
As long as the frame doesn't collapse, it is correctly structured, you autismaxxer

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Trybo Bike Tech !T2TiVG4UMA Sat 09 Jul 2022 05:53:39 No.1823254 Report

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>>1823106

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 08:48:08 No.1823285 Report

Quoted By: >>1823287 >>1823292

>>1823226
Okay, fuck it. I want to autism max. The absolute state of the bike economy when an autist can't find one to buy.

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Trybo Bike Tech !T2TiVG4UMA Sat 09 Jul 2022 08:57:52 No.1823287 Report

Quoted By: >>1823296

>>1823285
If you have the money, you can order a custom. If you are poor and very picky... well sucks to be you.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 09:22:24 No.1823292 Report

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>>1823285
>can't find one to buy.
Every aero bike has a flat top tube. Go nuts, it's only $4k for a bare frame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 10:53:42 No.1823296 Report

Quoted By: >>1823298 >>1823300

>>1823287
I could buy a custom bike right now it I wanted to. The fact that I'd have to means that the market is fucked. Obviously you can't pull out a hundred dollar bill after tax season and demand a bike made without cost cutting measures but if you can't even find one for a grand, something's wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 11:19:45 No.1823298 Report

Quoted By: >>1823304 >>1823306

>>1823296
Err how much do you think a custom bicycle frame costs and what do you think custom frame building entails?

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Not Your Dad REEEEE !!OS7PxlLkFR/ Sat 09 Jul 2022 11:40:24 No.1823300 Report

Quoted By: >>1823301 >>1823304 >>1823306

>>1823296
Can you try riding a modern road bike before complaining about the perceived shortcomings of modern road bikes? This is why there's so much dumb shit on entry level bikes like obnoxious suspension headsets and anti-hydroplaning tires and triple cranksets that will never be shifted out of the small ring. You are the cancer that is killing cycling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 11:47:53 No.1823301 Report

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>>1823300
I hate you and this post is entirely correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 11:52:47 No.1823304 Report

Quoted By: >>1823312

>>1823298
It's choosing each component individually and it costs around 10 grand.
>>1823300
Funny you should say that. I want zero suspension, slick tires, and a single chain ring and I'm complaining about not being able to buy it because the markets been fucked by plebs. I think we're agreed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 11:59:06 No.1823306 Report

Quoted By: >>1823307

>>1823298
I think it costs at least 10 grand and entails building a frame around a person's measurement.
>>1823300
So we both agree that the market has been fucked by plebs.

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Not Your Dad REEEEE !!OS7PxlLkFR/ Sat 09 Jul 2022 12:04:51 No.1823307 Report

Quoted By: >>1823309

>>1823306
We "agree" in the same way that the KMT and the CCP agree that there is one China.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 12:07:34 No.1823309 Report

Quoted By: >>1823314

>>1823307
Okay so you like slopy tubes. That's all there is anymore so you win. Get over it. I'll stop bitching when I find a bike that I like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 12:23:20 No.1823312 Report

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>>1823304
>1x road bike
You’re not agreed with anyone retard.

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Not Your Dad REEEEE !!OS7PxlLkFR/ Sat 09 Jul 2022 12:24:57 No.1823314 Report

Quoted By: >>1823326 >>1823357

>>1823309
Horizontal top tubes and legacy brakes look better. Sloping top tube, dropped seatstays, dick brakes, and aero tubing look terrible.

If your position was that modern bikes suck because aesthetics are important too, I wouldn't necessarily say you're wrong. Is that your position? It seemed like you were trying to make an argument about something else but I just did a quick skim of the thrad and I am not seeing any specific claims other than "horizontal good" which admittedly I may be reading into more than I should.

What are you really trying to say? Are you just talking about how it looks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 12:46:01 No.1823321 Report

Quoted By: >>1823336

Why do cycling newbies make such boring threads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 13:05:10 No.1823326 Report

Quoted By: >>1823334

>>1823314
>What are you really trying to say?
Top tubes should not slope.
>Are you just talking about how it looks?
Horizontal looks right because it is right.
It shouldn't matter. I'd just let people fall for the meme if I could buy myself a good bike and fuck off, but they don't make them anymore so have to go on this crusade until enough people catch on to the fuckery.

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Not Your Dad REEEEE !!OS7PxlLkFR/ Sat 09 Jul 2022 13:38:36 No.1823334 Report

Quoted By: >>1823338 >>1823342

>>1823326
>but they don't make them anymore
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=shop&q=bmc+timemachine+road
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=shop&q=giant+propel+advanced
Happy now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 13:40:43 No.1823336 Report

Quoted By:

>>1823321
why do (You) respond in threads you deem unacceptable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 13:44:33 No.1823338 Report

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>>1823334
damn that propel cheap as heck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 14:01:23 No.1823342 Report

Quoted By: >>1823345

>>1823334
I appreciate the help man. I see a few people riding bikes like that around here. Most of them are just holding onto their traditional bikes from the 2000's though. Meanwhile the shops are full of these slopeshits and devoid of customers. I'll be happy when they shout down and get replaced and I can buy a traditional bike for less than 2k again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 14:14:17 No.1823345 Report

Quoted By: >>1823380

>>1823342
>this stupid newbie fuck thinks he’s just been helped out and not shown how dumb his posts are

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 14:48:24 No.1823357 Report

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>>1823314
>Horizontal top tubes and legacy brakes look better. Sloping top tube, dropped seatstays, dick brakes, and aero tubing look terrible.
>tfw horizontal top tube
>and dropped seatstays

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 15:55:59 No.1823380 Report

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>>1823345
I really thought he was trying to help and I really don't see how he thinks my posts are dumb. I thought we were agreed on how bike geometry should be. If you guys have something to say you're being too subtle for anyone to detect it.

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