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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 01:44:30 No.1838282 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1838305 >>1838382 >>1838405 >>1839412 >>1839707 >>1839731 >>1840341 >>1841805

What does /n/ make of the new Trans-Caspian railway a.k.a the Middle Corridor?

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 01:47:23 No.1838283 Report

Quoted By: >>1838305 >>1838310 >>1838365

Note that on the way from Azerbaijan-Turkey it has to bend around Armenia and go through Georgia.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 02:32:41 No.1838305 Report

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>>1838282
>>1838283
Ah yes the Caucasus region, famous for it's stability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 02:57:22 No.1838310 Report

Quoted By: >>1838321 >>1838608

>>1838283
The bend around Armenia is nothing compared to the fact that they have to use ferries to get across the Caspian Sea instead of crossing through Iran and Turkmenistan.
Even more ironic is that the break of gauge isn't at the the Caspian Sea either.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 03:20:39 No.1838321 Report

Quoted By: >>1839585

>>1838310
I agree it would make sense to use to use Turkmen-Iran in the route, im sure it will happen eventually

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 05:19:28 No.1838365 Report

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>>1838283
That's less because "Oh no Armenia" and more because trains are kinda shit at all this mountain business and Armenia's got all of the mountains. Plus Armenia is tiny and largely insignificant, it makes sense to make a diversion to Tbilisi which alone has more than a third of population of the entirety of Armenia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 06:31:41 No.1838376 Report

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wouldn't Istanbul be the bottleneck? are cargo trains already running on the tunnel to the European side? might be easier to ship it again to the Bulgarian and Romanian ports from Georgia.
and acording to railway map there are some non electrified gaps that might be worth to close.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 06:50:33 No.1838381 Report

Quoted By: >>1838400

it's stupid to be honest. Why go through Caspian Sea? Obviously because Iran and Russia are terrorist states and you can't rely on them. Then again, the outdated Soviet or even Tsarist railroad system is still being used for a reason - it's slowly rotting away and locals can't maintain it in ex-Soviet states, instead relying on foreign investment. But what's the point of foreign investors to maintain railroads when they are all nationalized? The local governments are just using a big project to steal any funding they can get and "invest" it in a personal villa in France. The whole project is a failure because Europeans don't have a backbone bombing the shit out of the places with a more convenient path e.g. Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan. All they do is bitch and moan and bend their knee to tyrants and then wonder why their groceries are getting expensive.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 06:55:01 No.1838382 Report

Quoted By: >>1838409

>>1838282
Ekranoplane bros. It's our time to shine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 07:19:17 No.1838400 Report

Quoted By: >>1838834

>>1838381
Lol
The freedumb of the region is a stupid mistake, you even described the reason yourself - they can't rule over their own territory

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 07:37:55 No.1838405 Report

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>>1838282
We giggle at russkis fucking up yet another thing because 'russia stronk'

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 07:53:29 No.1838409 Report

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>>1838382
>rail ferry ekranoplan
Please stop, I can only get so erect

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 17:52:44 No.1838608 Report

Quoted By: >>1838810 >>1839413

>>1838310
Why don't the chinks pay Georgia and Azerbaijan to convert their lines to standard gauge? And also maybe Kazakhstan. In the long run it would probably make sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Aug 2022 05:44:23 No.1838810 Report

Quoted By: >>1838825 >>1839206

>>1838608
That will be very expensive and not as much needed for cargo operations using containers.
I think they'll just build fully automatic re-loading facilities in Khorgos and somewhere on the Turkish border.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Aug 2022 06:56:19 No.1838825 Report

Quoted By: >>1839183

>>1838810
>very expensive
To Georgia and Azerbaijan sure, but to the chinks it's probably nothing. I wouldn't think Georgian or Azerbaijani railroad network is so huge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Aug 2022 08:09:29 No.1838834 Report

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>>1838400
kys moskal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Aug 2022 04:05:24 No.1839183 Report

Quoted By: >>1839338

>>1838825
Zhangs are about to have their own economic collapse tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsIOYAI2D1k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Aug 2022 06:16:59 No.1839206 Report

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>>1838810
They can just build a through line for the east-west traffic at standard gauge from wherever to wherever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Aug 2022 12:17:01 No.1839338 Report

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>>1839183
>47 days
LOL okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Aug 2022 16:37:03 No.1839412 Report

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>>1838282
It goes all the way to Singapore eventually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Aug 2022 16:38:23 No.1839413 Report

Quoted By: >>1839419

>>1838608
Geopolitical considerations wrt. Russia. Kazakhstan is under Russian sphere of influence and only very recently (like, this July) have Russians agreed to China converting Kazakhstan lines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Aug 2022 16:54:41 No.1839419 Report

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>>1839413
More like Kazakhstan is very big and has a well-functioning rail system based on USSR standards already.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Aug 2022 17:44:48 No.1839436 Report

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potential for another Baku->Kars route

>During 2021 trilateral talks, Armenia expressed willingness to participate in rebuilding the Soviet-era railway links historically connecting Azerbaijan and Nakhichevan, which Azerbaijan interpreted as Armenian consent to the "Zangezur corridor". According to Russia, the third party, what is being discussed is unblocking regional communications, and not creating a "corridor".[22][23]

although im not really sure what having another route from Baku to Kars is when there's already the Georgia route. And it may be just roads, not necessarily a railway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Aug 2022 02:39:06 No.1839585 Report

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>>1838321
Isn't there a railway that already connect iran to china via central asia? i know central asia still has it's soviet network up and running.

i guess the only reason why the old silk road land routes aren't thriving right now is political more than anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Aug 2022 08:45:14 No.1839707 Report

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>>1838282
>A ferry to Baku

Ew

Also

>Eat west line through turkey

So just their existing rail then? This exists now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Aug 2022 10:58:07 No.1839731 Report

Quoted By: >>1839756

>>1838282
I'm incredibly repulsed by the fact that Turkey has fucked up the railway access to Istanbul. Basically the two terminal stations on either side of the Bosphorus have been disaffected, and all train traffic is through the cross-bosphorus "Marmaray" line, which just operates as a commuter/metro hybrid, while long distance trains just drop you off at the suburbs. How is this train line to function in the grand scheme of things ffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Aug 2022 12:09:23 No.1839756 Report

Quoted By: >>1840355

>>1839731
Trivial:
>freight train goes to SAW
>freight goes onto plane
>plane flies from SAW to IST
>freight goes back on train

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Anonymous Tue 16 Aug 2022 17:35:53 No.1840316 Report

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It would be cheaper and probably easier to cut Russia from everything south of Kursk-Voronezh-Saratov line and build a Caspian-Azov sea canal through Kuma-Manych depression.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Aug 2022 18:29:35 No.1840341 Report

Quoted By: >>1840361

>>1838282
>more belt and road initiative shit
no thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Aug 2022 19:26:58 No.1840355 Report

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>>1839756
Criminally low-iq post

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Aug 2022 19:40:35 No.1840361 Report

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>>1840341
You're not happy with the number of CHSR posts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2022 05:06:25 No.1840572 Report

Quoted By: >>1840599

Would be a lot cheaper to just pay some Russian to beat Putin to death with a pipe so there would be no further need to detour around Russia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2022 07:35:19 No.1840599 Report

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>>1840572
Russia isn't Indonesia. The president of Russia has a security detail that will shoot you. In fact, that's about all Russia has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Aug 2022 19:59:23 No.1841805 Report

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>>1838282
Isn't that the Hippie Trail?

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