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getting ready for winter

Anonymous Sat 03 Sep 2022 22:18:00 No.1847173 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1847177 >>1847200 >>1847308 >>1848418 >>1848669 >>1849081

are just some normal thickness studded bicycle tires good enough to drive on mostly plowed roads comfortably?

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Anonymous Sat 03 Sep 2022 22:24:15 No.1847177 Report

Quoted By: >>1847181 >>1847182

>>1847173S
Studs help when riding over ice, but do nothing but add rolling resistance if no ice is present. For packed snow that doesn't have a layer of ice underneath, any tire will work - but the wider the better so you have a larger contact patch.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Sep 2022 22:44:55 No.1847181 Report

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>>1847177
road crossing are always really icy and bumpy here
how about lights, me think some chinky flashlight and a mount on the handlebars

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Anonymous Sat 03 Sep 2022 22:45:09 No.1847182 Report

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>>1847177
>but the wider the better so you have a larger contact patch.
I hear people say this all the time but that's not always the case. If it's snow that's been refrozen into ruts and channels, yes wider tires are better since skinny tires will bounce all over the place, but snow comes in many different forms and it becomes very condition dependent on what is "proper gear." If it's the thick and slushie kind, you're better off with high grip road tires formulated for cold weather that can cut through and contact asphalt. Ice though, fuck ice, you need studded tires for icy days. Personally, 28s IMO can handle everything but icy days. What's important is changing your riding style to lean less and rear brake more than front.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Sep 2022 22:48:56 No.1847184 Report

Quoted By: >>1847190 >>1847365

just ride slow.
i used to go for mad long drifts on my 28 slicks, winter riding is great fun albeit slower.
always slip the rear never the front
you will eat shit and learn from it :D
balance.
though this winter i think im going to concoct a dedicated shitter to the task

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Not Your Dad REEEEE !!OS7PxlLkFR/ Sat 03 Sep 2022 22:52:59 No.1847186 Report

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>>1847182
Just about anything "can handle" any road condition you're likely to find in a first world country, the question is how much of a pain in the ass will it be. I've seen people commuting to work on an ice-covered greenway on 700x23s but they looked more likely they were trying to prove something than actually having a good time. The "macho toxic masculinity tough guy commuter" that batavophiles complain about.

An underappreciated problem with riding in the winter is that your studded tires probably have more grip than your shoes, so don't plan on putting a foot down to help in dicey situations, that's just going to make things worse.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Sep 2022 23:00:34 No.1847190 Report

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>>1847184
I do need a dedicated shitter for snow, mine is a little bit too sketchy compared to my previous bikes and the difference between them is only like a +1.5° HTA and shorter wheelbase but that difference made my last two winters sketchy as hell compared to my older bikes where I was confident in almost all winter conditions. I ate a lot of shit and learned a lot riding in winter the past 7 years delivering.
>>1847186
I suppose your right, regardless whether if it's a first world country or third, bikes are surprisingly capable in almost all conditions.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Sep 2022 23:15:37 No.1847196 Report

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It really depends on the local conditions. If they clear to bare pavement anything studded will do.

Around here its often below -15C most of the winter. Even when they plow residual snow accumulates outside the tire tracks which is squirrely on anything but the widest tires, sometimes even on fat bike tires.

With our particular snow I actually prefer riding on unplowed streets and alleys that get packed smooth from vehicle traffic. Those roads are mostly white snow, little sand / salt. The packed snow is almost like a soft ice, studs effortlessly grab onto it. Cars slide around on it but I have mad traction. It can get uneven and rutty so I like having a very aggressive knobby studded tire to find traction when where it can when the snow turns to lumpy ice. When I'm not on my fat bike I'm on my mtb with Ice Spiker pros.

Regardless of what tires you have, technique is everything. All winter long I rarely use my front brake at all. I also corner without leaning which just feels weird, sometimes I'll keep the bike upright and shift my weight off center. If I spot a good patch of ground I'll aim for my turn to happen on that.

And you always have to be scanning for hazards. Avoid accidentally slipping into a parallel rut. When riding in a rut, be careful when you need to get out of it. Going in or out at a shallow angle invites a front wheel slip out.

If there is any kind of ice, watch out for sideway tilt in the road / path. It will pull you to the low side and fighting it will make the front wheel slip out from under you. If I find myself in the gravitational well I often ride off the path or try coming to a stop. I know my routes well enough I can anticipate trouble spots.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Sep 2022 23:28:10 No.1847200 Report

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>>1847173
Yes.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Sep 2022 08:25:43 No.1847308 Report

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>>1847173
I think a pair of knobby cx tires will do the job without breaking the bank, like the schwalbe cx pro or the maxxis mudwrestler cx or the vittoria terreno wet

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Anonymous Sun 04 Sep 2022 08:32:36 No.1847309 Report

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>>1847308
These are schwalbe cx pro, they’re not very knobby in the middle, more fast rolling. Wouldn’t recommend in anything deep.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Sep 2022 08:53:29 No.1847314 Report

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>>1847309
I'm talking about the schwalbe 700x30 CX pro not the 26er, there are way knobbier option for 26er

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Anonymous Sun 04 Sep 2022 08:59:41 No.1847317 Report

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>>1847314
Understandable (y)

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Anonymous Sun 04 Sep 2022 14:26:10 No.1847365 Report

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>>1847184
>i used to go for mad long drifts on my 28 slicks
There's a perfect ravine road near me. One-way after the very start, low traffic, near constant slope, long sweeping curves, 8/10 of a mile.
There used to be sort of a tradition to show up just after sunset, the night of the first snow that 'sticks', and ride down the thing. Or drift, or slide. Multiple riding groups, friends of friends, complete strangers. Simple bikes.
No shortage of people said "I'll be there", but this past year just myself & two other riders showed up :(

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Anonymous Wed 07 Sep 2022 20:48:28 No.1848418 Report

Quoted By: >>1848421

>>1847173
I live in Texas so if there's ice in the roads people just take the day off

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Anonymous Wed 07 Sep 2022 20:51:33 No.1848421 Report

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>>1848418
Nobody asked you. You have no business in this thread.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Sep 2022 21:18:00 No.1848435 Report

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I encountered ice after taking off the studded tires this spring and the bike went down very easily. Unstudded knobs are useless on ice, your contact patch is the tip of as little as 2 knobs.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Sep 2022 04:48:33 No.1848553 Report

Quoted By: >>1848662

I'm as experienced in this as anyone, and I'm a big fan of Schwalbe Marathon Winters. No fat bike is fat enough to float over snow like dedicated low ground pressure equipment can, they're great on sand but they're not snow-cats or sleds. Compare the contact patch to the size of a snowshoe... You need something that can efficiently cut through powder and slush and grip the ice and hardpack beneath.

With specialist tires, bar mitts, snowboard helmet, fenders, and decent lights winter biking can be very practical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Sep 2022 14:33:40 No.1848660 Report

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>>1847314
The ride is super hard when it there's ice and the rolling resistance is horrible when it's dry. They feel slower and worse than knobby mtb tires

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Anonymous Thu 08 Sep 2022 14:38:24 No.1848662 Report

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>>1848553
Anyone ever tried these on an e-bike?

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Anonymous Thu 08 Sep 2022 15:03:01 No.1848669 Report

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>>1847173
what is the point of this thread? none of you even own a bicycle.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Sep 2022 17:47:48 No.1848694 Report

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>>1848669
Speak for yourself.

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ibb.c0/album/jgt9nj Sat 10 Sep 2022 02:13:24 No.1849081 Report

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>>1847173
>>1848694
Winter is coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU

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Anonymous Wed 14 Sep 2022 02:44:00 No.1850542 Report

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I have a pair of old hardshell ski pants from Craft, that have been perfect, but they're a decade old, and reaching the point where small repairs isn't cutting it.

What's a good alternative? A quick browse looks like they don't make something like this anymore. It doesn't have to be "cycling specific".

I live in the Midwest, and it gets fucking cold. I've found it pretty useful to separate insulation & windproof/waterproof. So I usually wear a pair of wool tights & those shell pants.
A guy I used to work with suggested "Showers Pass Transit Pants", but I don't see them in stock anywhere.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Sep 2022 03:03:32 No.1850549 Report

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>>1849081
Hard packed snow > Cleared to bare pavement

I hate when my city plows the MUP to pavement and dumps sand on it. Side streets that don't get plowed and get packed smooth from vehicle traffic are fun in the winter. Rough streets with cracked pavement and pot holes are transformed into sweet smoothness.

The only downside of packed snow is when its bright and overcast. The lack of shadows makes it impossible to tell packed snow from fresh deep snow.

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