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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 08:08:06 No.1920045 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1920075 >>1920422

>Gravel bike is the best all-around bike for road and offr-
*muds in your path*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 08:30:36 No.1920048 Report

Quoted By: >>1920049 >>1920512

Carboniggers can't stop losing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 08:36:13 No.1920049 Report

Quoted By: >>1920061 >>1920159 >>1920764

>>1920048
>steel/aluminium/titanium is impervious to the grinding effect from wet dirt/sand/gravel sludge
Whatever keeps you sleeping at night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 08:39:06 No.1920050 Report

Quoted By: >>1920519

Riding in mud is fine for racing, but otherwise it's just annoying. If it's this bad 24/7 just run thinner tires or swap frames every couple years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 09:31:53 No.1920061 Report

Quoted By: >>1920073 >>1920274

>>1920049
Well those metals are higher on the hardness scale than resin which automatically makes them much more durable against sand, mud, dirt, some types of rock etc.
This is mostly an issue of idiots riding cakey mud with their tyres at the very edge of clearance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 10:54:37 No.1920073 Report

Quoted By: >>1920090

>>1920061
this
It baffles me how american the whole ordeal is. Of fucking course the frame doesn't take in account the playdoh mud you're spinning around the 45mm tyre you're on, otherwise they'd announce an even larger clearance, which wouldnt solve the issue since idiots would want to ride fatbike tyres for muh compliance and grip. They need to do like Starbucks stating the coffee is hot, add a sticker explaining the obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 11:00:48 No.1920075 Report

Quoted By: >>1921035

>>1920045
"With disc brakes it doesn't matter if my rim isn't straight and true" he thought to himself, "with disc brakes I can run much wider tires for more compliance"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 11:18:27 No.1920080 Report

Quoted By: >>1920112

If you can't feel your tacoed wheel hitting your chainstay multiple times per second you should probably lay off the drugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 12:10:08 No.1920090 Report

Quoted By: >>1920169 >>1920179

>>1920073
You were lied to
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13971482/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit-stella-liebeck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 15:04:53 No.1920112 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920080
learn to read, junkie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 20:01:24 No.1920159 Report

Quoted By: >>1920591

>>1920049
mud loses to metal
plastic loses to mud

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 21:23:02 No.1920169 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920090
>you were lied to, here's a Vox article explaining why
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 22:24:38 No.1920179 Report

Quoted By: >>1920269 >>1920590

>>1920090
Still doesn't make sense. Coffee is supposed to be hot. Served near boiling point sounds about right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 07:20:34 No.1920269 Report

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>>1920179
I'm currently smugly drinking my perfectly temped macchiato (60°C) on my balcony in my picturesque Slovenian town, in peace and quiet because it's mostly pedestrianized and my town isn't run by gas fume huffing land whales, being ever so glad an ocean separates me from subhumans who serve coffee boiling hot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 08:19:24 No.1920274 Report

Quoted By: >>1920335

>>1920061
hardness and wear resistance aren't the same thing. this is the reason that cable housings can rub through paint and frame material, but are no match for one little clear frame-protection sticker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 13:33:57 No.1920335 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920274
That has something to do with protection stickers being more compliant (flexy, squishy) than cable housings right?
Regardless, of course it's not black and white. Carbon isn't butter, metals aren't inpervious and I'm not a material scientist, it's just that I would bet on aluminum to take at least double the abuse from dirty tyres.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 14:12:15 No.1920341 Report

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Fuggg didn't think about that when building my new gravel bike. Bike says I can mount tires up to 50c but I have like 53mm total clearance

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 14:39:53 No.1920344 Report

Quoted By: >>1920357 >>1920363 >>1920401 >>1920532 >>1920533

Why don't carbon bikes just implement some sort of metal sheet cladding on vulnerable areas to prevent shit like this?
I don't advocate for catering to idiots but if you're not a weightfag then it's a great peace of mind knowing a pothole on a descent isn't gonna trash your bike.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 15:45:44 No.1920357 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920344
>why don't carbon bikes just implement some sort of metal sheet cladding on vulnerable areas to prevent shit like this?
mtb frames use a more resilient hard rubber in vulnerable areas

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 16:33:27 No.1920363 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920344
My plastic bike has a permanently attached armor thing on the chainstay to guard against chain slap and on the headtube where the cables would rub

But there are limits to how much stupidity you can guard against, something like that isn't going to last long against a spinning tire coated in sand, maybe they could put a diamond-crusted steel plate back there for something like op pic but a better solution would be for numbskulls like that to just buy a BSO if they're going to be that clueless

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 17:02:15 No.1920370 Report

Quoted By: >>1920426

Would it upset people if I were to put original new-old-stock sharkfin on my gravel bike?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 18:48:01 No.1920401 Report

Quoted By: >>1920517

>>1920344
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm not a weightfag and therefore my entire bike is steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 20:07:21 No.1920422 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920045
Please stop making these clown threads.
Riding with fucked up wheels or too wide tires in the mud will fuck up any frame.
The frame isn't at fault, it's the moron that's riding it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 20:11:42 No.1920426 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920370
I wrap old inner tubes around the chainstays of my bikes. Works flawlessly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 02:09:42 No.1920512 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920048
poorfag cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 02:39:46 No.1920517 Report

Quoted By: >>1920574

>>1920401
psh. that's some weight-weenie bullcrap. my bike is made out of enameled cast iron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 02:53:21 No.1920519 Report

Quoted By: >>1920732

>>1920050
This picture was taken from a Reddit post about the particularly muddy unbound race this year

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 03:49:08 No.1920532 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920344
>if you're not a weightfag
then you don't need a carbon frame

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 03:52:58 No.1920533 Report

Quoted By: >>1920576 >>1920591

>>1920344
The thing is it's so easy for a bike to just randomly die all you have to do is crash it or even knock it over and get unlucky and that includes steel bikes too.

Anyone with an expensive bike is likely to have multiple expensive bikes and or want to have something different later or keep spending money. It's pretty rare to find a poorfag who gets that -one- super nice bike and then stakes their dreams on it and can never have anything else.

It doesn't matter that they're fragile so are relationships.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 08:32:38 No.1920574 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920517
Haha. You got me. My argument looks absurd. I guess I have to buy a 2lb carbon frame now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 08:41:13 No.1920576 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920533
>It's pretty rare to find a poorfag who gets that -one- super nice bike and then stakes their dreams on it and can never have anything else.
I'm a poorfag and I just got that one decent bike and a set of tools I can't have anything else. The other poorfag where I work gets one ridiculously shitty used bike every couple weeks when the last one falls apart underneath him. The keeps talking about getting a nice e-bike one day and I don't even know how to explain to him that his maintenance routine applied to that will just disintegrate his budget.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 10:44:38 No.1920590 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920179
You've never had good coffee

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 11:11:37 No.1920591 Report

Quoted By: >>1920592

>>1920159
>mid loses to metal
Delusion.

>>1920533
Bikes aren't fragile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 11:18:12 No.1920592 Report

Quoted By: >>1920593

>>1920591
nice bikes are fragile

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 11:19:28 No.1920593 Report

Quoted By: >>1920594

>>1920592
They are not

t. owner of multiple nice bikes that get used as the tools that they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 11:40:47 No.1920594 Report

Quoted By: >>1920631 >>1920732 >>1920896

>>1920593
you've never crashed/totaled a bike?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 16:08:52 No.1920631 Report

Quoted By: >>1920634

>>1920594
skill issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 16:18:40 No.1920634 Report

Quoted By: >>1920690 >>1920743

>>1920631
You don’t ride

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 20:43:15 No.1920690 Report

Quoted By: >>1920732

>>1920634
crashing isn't riding

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 22:19:33 No.1920732 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920594
Not him, but nope. Most I have done is bent a rim.
I tend to crash at slower speeds, and all my bikes are 26in mountain bikes.
I have a somewhat damaged hip from a fall, and I have blacked out.
Haven't had many bad falls since I know my limits(not really).
>>1920519
huh I have done a fair amount of xc races with mud. Never had an issue, but I don't run huge tires in my frame, generally I have 1/8in or more clearance.
>>1920690
You are riding before the crash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 23:23:34 No.1920743 Report

Quoted By: >>1920896

>>1920634
sure i do. crashing is a skill issue. bail before you crash, dude. i've had to throw my bike out from under me a billion times instead of trying to save a bad jump. it was, is, and always will be a skill issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 01:44:11 No.1920764 Report

Quoted By: >>1920896

>>1920049
Anon that's a magnificent amount of cope. Yes metals are by orders of magnitude more abrasion resistant than resin. There's a reason virtually all digging tools, farm implements, construction and mining equipment are made out of steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 12:58:05 No.1920896 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920594
Crashed plenty, never totaled. I've also seen totaled bikes in races. Both metal and carbon. When you bend a tube on a metal bike it's just as totaled as in 2 different pieces carbon bike as a race bike. Carbon is even easier to fix than metal frames. Good luck getting that delicate steel or aluminium frame fixed, doesn't matter if it's welded or lugged. And don't think for a second that the delicate, lightweight metal frame is robust enough to survive someone riding over it or even worse crashing on top of it with their entire body weight.

>>1920743
With a road or gravel bike when you're going fast you're supposed to ride all the way to the ground. If you take your hands off the bars before you're laying on the ground to brace you're going to fuck up your shoulder. And sometimes when riding in a group you simlly can't do anything to avoid crashing. Someone directly in front of you decides to crash and you're going down. Or if someone clips your front wheel for fun.

>>1920764
Yeah and they do wear over time. The wall thicknesses on race bikes are so thin that you don't have much to wear until it's done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 22:08:48 No.1921033 Report

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> my plastic bike wore out!??
it was never a bike
just another B.S.O.
get rekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 22:10:29 No.1921035 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920075
kek

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