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Flat pedals without pins for bikepacking?

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 06:48:13 No.1920264 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1920273 >>1920280 >>1920337 >>1920371 >>1920387 >>1920390 >>1920654 >>1920911

What are some good quality flat pedals that are not MTB focused with sharp pins? I don't know much about pedals but I need a tough, reliable and easy to service pedal for my multidays bikepacking trips. I don't use SPDs because I want to have 1 pair of shoes and flat MTB shoes are not suitable for walks in the wood so that's why I use hiking shoes. Til now the only decent ones are the Shimano PD EF 102 or 202

Any advice?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 07:11:43 No.1920268 Report

Quoted By: >>1920273 >>1920336 >>1920360 >>1921809

>good quality
MKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bex1DuKph4M

ALLWAYS, GAMMA, RMX, SEAHORSE

I also don't see why you can't just use mtb pedals though, hiking shoes have thick soles, they work well with pins, and you can back the pins out or remove some of them entirely.
You should also consider cage pedals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 08:16:08 No.1920273 Report

Quoted By: >>1920336

>>1920264
>bikepacking, walking in the woods, using shoes that don't have a flat bottom
>doesn't want grippy pins on the pedals
wut?
literally everyone who is bikepacking with flat pedals is using mtb pedals, dude
>>1920268
+1 for MKS though. and the Allways that he posted have some grippy pins, as you can see, but they aren't as sharp and aggressive as a lot of mtb pedals. Great all-around pedal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 08:59:04 No.1920280 Report

Quoted By: >>1920393

>>1920264
You can remove the pins

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 08:59:22 No.1920281 Report

Quoted By: >>1920283

With pinned MTB pedals you can raise or lower the pins to your desired height.

Also, try /bqg/ noob

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 09:25:05 No.1920283 Report

Quoted By: >>1920296 >>1920305 >>1920729

>>1920281
>With pinned MTB pedals you can raise or lower the pins to your desired height.
not always, noob

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 10:44:43 No.1920296 Report

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>>1920283
kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 11:11:50 No.1920305 Report

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>>1920283
i stopped at a farm on tour once because the pins had cut holes through my shoes and borrowed his angle grinder to take them down

so hes atleast half right, you can always lower them

a file would work too

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 11:23:37 No.1920308 Report

Quoted By: >>1920318 >>1920394

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 12:03:25 No.1920318 Report

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>>1920308
you get what you pay for, it WILL break on the slightest impact

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 13:02:10 No.1920327 Report

Quoted By: >>1920334

MKS Sylvan or another related model. However, like many Japanese cycling things it's very high quality but old school and so is the maintenance (loose ball bearings instead of cartridge bearing). Also it will look off on something carbon and aero.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 13:31:36 No.1920334 Report

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>>1920327
>MKS Sylvan
yea if he wants toe clips/straps
otherwise it's just hotspot disaster for much riding at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 13:36:25 No.1920336 Report

Quoted By: >>1920396

>>1920268
>>1920273
Because pins are too agressive I fucked up my shin once and that's it for me. Plus the pins aren't so kind on the shoe sole too and I don't know why I would need so much grip. Plus I like the reflectors, more visible while biking in the city or on the road at night

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 13:40:16 No.1920337 Report

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>>1920264
I use Wellgo's plastic DU bearing pedals on several bikes and they're flawless. A little tight at first, but they get smooth very quickly.
When installing cheaper pedals you should get pedal washers to not scratch up your cranks.
I wouldn't buy anything more expensive because I see no added benefits.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 16:23:42 No.1920360 Report

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>>1920268
Cool, I've never heard of the Seahorse model. It's lovely.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 16:38:33 No.1920366 Report

Quoted By: >>1920369 >>1920398

I've used ergon pedals for years

These are their new versions

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 16:55:57 No.1920369 Report

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>>1920366
looks cursed but that's just my biketism acting up

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 17:06:25 No.1920371 Report

Quoted By: >>1920931

>>1920264
Just get a pair of gr500. you can adjust the pins

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 17:50:12 No.1920387 Report

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>>1920264
Hiking shoes work perfectly well with pinned MTB pedals if you don't mind scarring the soles. Yes the pins will rape the soles, but they will still be perfectly fine to walk and ride in.

I got a pair of EF205 to have in case I should have need to ride with dress shoes, but I haven't had occasion to try them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 18:14:42 No.1920390 Report

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>>1920264
i love pins for bikepacking man idk why you wouldnt want them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 18:39:20 No.1920393 Report

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>>1920280
this
or install shorter ones
plus on my pedals the pins are reversible to shorter ones i think
havnt tested it hough cos i like the long ones
with hiking shoes its kinda like having clips

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 18:41:12 No.1920394 Report

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>>1920308
that but metal would be pretty good
although the nubs will ware down eventually and you need to replace the whole pedal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 18:42:44 No.1920396 Report

Quoted By: >>1920610

>>1920336
do you bikepack on like flat terrain?
you ever rode in mud?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 18:43:45 No.1920398 Report

Quoted By: >>1920407

>>1920366
thats he worst thing ive ever seen

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2023 18:54:48 No.1920407 Report

Quoted By: >>1920515 >>1920724

>>1920398
eh, don't knock 'em til you've tried'em. I've used the PC2's on different bikes and am very satisfied with them. The new ones don't seem to have a pocket but they're pretty much exactly what the OP is asking for

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 02:27:42 No.1920515 Report

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>>1920407
they seem cool but it looks like the grip would vanish in the wet. any experience with that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 13:15:46 No.1920610 Report

Quoted By: >>1920653 >>1920665 >>1920726

>>1920396
I bikepack on any kind of terrain. Pavement, city, hills, gravel, mud etc. Clipless pedals gives me anxiety and the only moment where it's proven that they are better than flats is during steep climbs or sprints

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 17:53:35 No.1920653 Report

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>>1920610
>only moment where it's proven that they are better than flats is during steep climbs or sprints
From what I understand from lurking /n/ is that they are very appreciated by people who are too uncoordinated to reliably not miss the pedal on every downstroke.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 17:54:14 No.1920654 Report

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>>1920264
Issi stomp xl is the GOAT pedal I've ever used. Theyre not cheap but in the end theyre quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 19:06:37 No.1920665 Report

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>>1920610
>huge mileage
>huge diversity of terrain
>done lots of research
>can't imagine using a simple efficiency device
Uh huh yeah

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 19:09:21 No.1920667 Report

Quoted By: >>1920727

SimWorks/MKS Bubbly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 21:46:50 No.1920724 Report

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>>1920407
i dont think you know what bikepacking is babe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 21:49:25 No.1920726 Report

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>>1920610
yeah fuck clips but you need your shoes gripped to the pedals man
i know they hurt your shin but you lean how to not let it happen pretty quickly
just try shortening the pins

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 21:50:33 No.1920727 Report

Quoted By: >>1920744

>>1920667
that looks even more shin destroying
it looks cool though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 21:56:23 No.1920729 Report

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>>1920283
So buy ones that let you, you retarded noob

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2023 23:29:01 No.1920744 Report

Quoted By: >>1920861

>>1920727
Done 3 years and two winters on em, haven't had an issue. I've wacked my shin a couple times but never been scratched/gouged. The teeth aren't that sharp, they're massive platforms so they're comfy, and they're serviceable bearings. I mentioned them because I wanted to get away from pins and have a massive platform for winter riding with boots on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 11:16:33 No.1920861 Report

Quoted By: >>1920866 >>1920885 >>1920950

>>1920744
how much are they?
i kinda want some just for the look
theyd look great on my 90s shitbox

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 11:30:41 No.1920866 Report

Quoted By: >>1920947 >>1920951

>>1920861
BICYCLES ARE NOT BOXES, CARS ARE BOXES

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 12:24:46 No.1920885 Report

Quoted By: >>1920948

>>1920861
$130cad lol. Not exactly cheap, but with maintenance I feel like they'll outlive me so worth it imo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 12:39:59 No.1920889 Report

Quoted By: >>1920914 >>1920923 >>1921380

>1920264
>buy 15$ raceface chester knock offs from aliexpress
>insert nuts to make the pins come out just a little bit less so they offer grip but wont shred your shin bones

and this way you dont have to spend 100€ on some pedals (lmao at who does)

heres link even
aliexpress.com/item/1005001657295535.html>;

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 13:34:13 No.1920911 Report

Quoted By: >>1920984

>>1920264
would Powergrips be too spooky for you ? its an archaic form of foot retention that can be adjusted to work with a fare variety of shoes
>easy to service pedal
flat pedals tend to require particular rebuild kits, downside to this is the cost being they almost half as much as an entire pedal
the older thicker pedals with Cup and cone bearings mostly the only thing to do with them is replace the ball bearings, and hope nothing is pitted / bent
>sharp pins
nylon pedals and alloy pedals with integrated pins can wear down to be smooth enough for biking bare foot
if mud is not an issue rubber bike pedals may also work
concave pedals are good for foot retention, but its a rare feature for pedals to have

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 14:03:25 No.1920914 Report

Quoted By: >>1920949

>>1920889
Pedals for people who don't bike

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 15:13:23 No.1920923 Report

Quoted By: >>1921331

>>1920889
+1 social credit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 16:26:50 No.1920931 Report

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>>1920371
These things last forever. Easy to swap or remove pins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 17:54:05 No.1920947 Report

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>>1920866
IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 17:55:07 No.1920948 Report

Quoted By:

>>1920885
ok well nevermind i guess
is there a chinese knockoff i can afford?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 17:56:10 No.1920949 Report

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>>1920914
lol wtf does that mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 17:57:27 No.1920950 Report

Quoted By: >>1920952

>>1920861
I don't think they fit on your honda civic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 17:57:31 No.1920951 Report

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>>1920866
are you following me around the board just to throw a pissyfit every time i say shitbox?
i fucking hate men hold shit you retards have the worst autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 17:59:12 No.1920952 Report

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>>1920950
i will make it fit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2023 19:54:10 No.1920984 Report

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>>1920911
Why not use basic straps? The power strap looks kinda death compared to normal side to sides.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Jun 2023 19:54:47 No.1921331 Report

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>>1920923
ty almighty pooh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 Jun 2023 21:06:07 No.1921343 Report

Quoted By:

Not OP, but since is the flat-pedal bikepacking thread...

Anyone use pop-off pedals? I have a folding bike I use for multi-modal touring and one of the cheap pedals it came with is grinding.
Was thinking of giving pop-off a try. Specifically I saw some Wellgo's that looked nice but a little pricey, so I'd feel better with an endorsement.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2023 00:45:39 No.1921380 Report

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>>1920889
Fookers on this bike for 4 years now.
Worth it. Fook u and fook me

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2023 14:37:41 No.1921546 Report

Quoted By: >>1921784

Currently on entry level OneUp composites with 18k miles on them, bearings still feel solid. Previously I have CrankBros Stamp 1, bearing failure at about 15k miles. Before that a RockBros copy of the Stamp 1 which experienced bearing failure at 2k miles. And before that some Nashbar generic mtb flats that didn't fail but the nylon pins wore out from curb rash. And before that some Performance Bicycle generic value brand alloy mtb flats that eventually went through bearing failure like every one of my pedals. I like composite mtb flats with steel pins because pedals to me are consumables and alloy flats are too extra, plus the special bearings are unobtanium anyways.

I really like the OneUps I'm rocking right now but the platform is a little too wide for my taste. I like the size of the Stamp 1 a lot but I'm still determining if 15k miles is a good service life since it's only been recently I've been logging the mileage of my components.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2023 00:45:43 No.1921784 Report

Quoted By: >>1921792

>>1921546
>bearing failure
>>1921546
>bearing failure
>>1921546
>bearing failure
>>1921546
>bearing failure

do none of these pedals have replaceable bearings?
genuinely asking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2023 01:35:59 No.1921792 Report

Quoted By: >>1921808 >>1921910

>>1921784
They are but the CrankBros rebuild kit cost about the same as a OneUp pedal on sale so why rebuild? It's not fancy alloy pedals anyways, parts kits for the pedals from companies that don't exist anymore is also the other problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2023 02:17:57 No.1921808 Report

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>>1921792
ball bearings are looking better and better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2023 02:19:27 No.1921809 Report

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>>1920268
I highly recommend the allways, the "pins" are more of just nubs that help with grip and work fine with a variety of shoes without being uncomfortable or causing noticeable damage like sharp pins do. Got mine last year and I love them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2023 10:52:13 No.1921910 Report

Quoted By: >>1922219 >>1922238

>>1921792
thats retarded that pedals dont just use a standardized set of bearings like everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jun 2023 05:00:20 No.1922219 Report

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>>1921910
I'm sure most bearings are some standard size but those small and thin bearings are probably rarely used that they have to be bulk ordered at industrial scale. Even then still, the way bearing failure happens on pedals usually means the pedal detaches from the spindle and the retaining hardware is lost somewhere, which is included in the parts kit.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jun 2023 08:39:19 No.1922238 Report

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>>1921910
the bearing nearest where the axle threads into the crank would be easier to make a standard size as there is more room
most variance is the bearing on the outer end of the axle, this part of the pedal is thinner so often bushings are used here
the pedal op mentioned uses bushings on both ends,
bushings are not so well suited to full rotation or high speeds, but they offer a large surface area in a small space, and perhaps more importantly they are cheap

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