>>1983130>or even a bike fits you if you can stand over the top tube.He didn't say that and that statement obviously doesn't make sense. All adults can stand over a 2 year olds bike, but that doesn't mean it will fit them, so no one is going to suggest that merely having standover clearance means you can fit a bike, all that it means is that it isn't -necessarily- too big for you. As he said it's one thing to go off.
>Most people choose to ride while seated on a bikes seat and not doing funny things while standing over it, as such it's irrelevant to fit if you can or can't stand over the TT.In your imagination is the reason for wanting standover clearance to do with actually riding the bike?
>If you're a long legs guy you'll find some racing specific bikes will put you in a too stretched out position.>You won't go wrong by going with a frame size that is in the recommended range for your height.As you say, there are bikes with racey geo, which will not suit many riders in any size, therefor for that reason (and others) you CAN go wrong by going with a rec frame size. Bike fit is complicated.
>Don't listen to anyone claiming you need to be able to stand over the top tube99% of people will not find a bike in their recommended size which they cannot stand over. You recommend one thing and then say to ignore another thing which aligns with it.
A discussion of whether you do or do not need standover clearance is interesting. I have a 63cm bike that I cannot stand over, and it fits me quite well. Sheldon said you did not necesserily need standover clearance. You have not really said anything helpful to do with this discussion though, it seems like you're just expressing your distaste for folksy old cycling advice and your preference for more generic modern ways of doing things but that isn't an interesting way of looking at any specific issue.