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Let me guess: you "need" more? More complex, more expensive, more heavy, more ostentatious, more retarded, more screachy, more fiddly, more annoying, more frustrating, more proprietary, more wasteful, more conformist, more disposable, more breakable, more consumerist, more cringe, more feminine, more Radavist, more GCN, more lame, more pathetic, more tryhard, more shit: more disc
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What are some good mini-Vs? I bought a bike that originally had cantis, but the previous owner ditched the cable stops both front and rear and installed V-brakes with those cable pull adapter things for short pull levers. I don’t like them and would rather just use v-brakes designed for short pull.
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>>2012554 >What are some good mini-Vs Trick question, there are no good mini Vs. when short pull is required, cantilever is recommended
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>>2012549 manufacturers couldn't make anymore profit making the same items, so they had to "innovate"
once disc brakes become cheap again, and rim brakes become rare and expensive, they will "innovate" again and make aero V/rim brakes
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>>2012549 Modern VBs are shit tho. Old XTRs and XTs with pararel movement are the real thing.
Anonymous
>>2012559 those wear trough and develop play
yet another example of failing to improve a timeless design
Anonymous
>>2012559 Preach it brother. Basic V-brakes are shit in compression.
>>2012560 Do they though? Have you ever used them? The only dogshit part of the old XTR groups are those wierd sti levers for mtbs.
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>>2012560 I actually own a bike i bough with LX cantis and upgraded to XT VBs in 1998... guess what? They are still fine.
Pic rel. "Modded" by my dad a few years ago tho xDD
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>>2012549 Based, 'ate disc brakes simple as
>bro just make sure your wheels and discs are perfectly trued so it doesn't scrape bro discs are fine bro just gotta readjust them every 30 minutes bro no biggie bro worth it for the 10% better stopping power Anonymous
>>2012561 >>2012559 I'll swap my pair of Arch Rivals and XTR's to regular V-brakes like SD7's and the newer XT's anyday. I don't know why but I've never tried a linkage system that wouldn't have a soft flexy feel or no squeal to it. Or if there is a disc mount then just a dirt cheap MT200 would be an significant upgrade in lever feel and wet/icy weather stopping power over any v-brake.
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Obviously hydro discs are a significant upgrade over any V-brake. But I stand by my point that parallel movement V-brakes are better than regular ones.
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I ride on old side pull brakes with non aero levers. I need less, shit I wouldn't mind trying the spoon brake setup.
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>>2012549 >Just ride a double black diamond trail with v brakes bro >just ride down this alpine pass where you reach 50mph+ with v brakes bro OP are gay and retarded? Because i think you are both.
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>>2012578 someone soiquote this man
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>someone soiquote this man
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>>2012557 They'll have to make the new rim brakes totally incompatible with the old ones of course. I will miss the 8-9 speed era deeply
>>2012566 Yeah this was my experience with disc. Fiddly bullshit that didn't stop nearly well enough to justify the time and effort. And the fucking pads are 2mm thick. And your fork is ruined because it's as rigid as a rock. Trash gear
>>2012578 Shut the fuck up downhill bro. You don't even pedal up the hill
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>>2012555 Thanks, I’ll get to acquiring cable hangers for the fork crown and seatpost binder bolt.
Anonymous
>Let me guess: you "need" more? no! I need less!
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>>2012601 >Shut the fuck up downhill bro No i wont because im right and you are wrong.
And your point about adjusting discs is also false or you use absolute shit gear.
I use discs on every bike, from roadbike to downhill bike and adjust and vent them like once every 2 years. Takes me 20mins.
>And your fork is ruined because it's as rigid as a rock Cool then have fun with your absolute shit and heavy rims that need to get exchanged after a while or they literally explode. Imagine buying sets of carbon wheels only because the braking surface vanishes after time. Absolute shit and uneconomical concept. And the heat is also fucking with your tire pressure.
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>>2012575 >I ride on old side pull brakes with non aero levers same. I'm on the shimano no-name single pivot side pull calipers from 1987 and the kind of levers old Raleigh roadsters and Flying Pigeons have.
even though I ride in traffic, a fair amount of gravel/light offroad, and go fast on downhills spinning big-small, there's never been a time when I didn't have the brake performance I needed .
I get that disc is stronger, but I haven't ever needed more than I have. my fast bike has 105 dual pivots and microshift brifters. its easier to work on and tune. they feel nicer. there's more power there but it's just extra for my braking needs. maybe I'm just really good at anticipating situations and using the brakes optimally but I doubt it
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>>2012623 canti are fiddly to set up initially. the little cable(s) between the arms have to be a certain length/angle depending on which model arms you have. Shimano manuals explain it and they even made special plastic bits that laid along the cable for the specific brakes but I figured it out with some cardboard .
but once you set it up it's good forever. they'll still work if you guess at it, but for optimum performance you do that.
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https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/deore-t610/BR-T610.html Shimano still makes those in 2024. Thank you based shimano. Now where do I find SID or fox 32 for rim brakes in a good working order?
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>>2012566 >make sure your wheels and discs are perfectly trued your wheels being true has nothing to do with the operation of disc brakes though...
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>>2012549 ugh I wish I could still get Avid v-brakes
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>>2012732 sram bothers me since they eat up these companies, takes their stuff, and phases them out.
I guess it's all business, but it makes me sad.
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>>2012720 Pretending to be retarded still makes you retarded
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>>2012638 >. Imagine buying sets of carbon wheels only because the braking surface vanishes after time Carbon rims are a retarded idea and you don't even pedal uphill. You are not a cyclist. You are a child on downhill toy
>>2012632 Still more complicated than a v brake but I have no anger towards you
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>>2012549 You realize nobody really gives a fuck, don't you?
Seriously. How much of a geek do you have to be to make a whole thread about shit like this? Don't you have anything better to do than to waste your time and ours with this shit?
Touch grass.
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>>2012554 I've been using the chink litepros, pretty good stopping powe but less rim clearance. Heard great things about TRPs. You want as short of an arm as possible, 80-85mm.
Otherwise cantis are a more wholesome solution but require more faffing. Tbh I switched to mini v's and don't regret it, drawbacks are more usable than thos of cantis for my particular frame
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>>2012837 >litepros i have some litepro v brakes and litepro levers both are AWFUL and scary
probably the worst place to go muh gramz chinkshit on .
i wouldn't even call them brake components they are brake component shaped objects
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>>2012842 I dunno what to tell ya man they're pretty good to me but maybe that's cuz I was riding on tektro 720's those didn't stop me at all
Though I don't disagree it's a retarded place to save money and I'm retarded for doing it. Just spend the dough on trps
Anonymous
>>2012841 Are you asserting that if a wheel is out of true, it effects the disc brake? Just be clear.
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>>2012861 >hey it's me, yeah I call people retards and leave no explanation thus causing them to rub 2 brain cells. >Is it working? I don't think so, but I get to keep calling them names! Anonymous
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>>2012767 >Carbon rims are a retarded idea and you don't even pedal uphill. Explain why carbon rims are retarded anon. I have a nice set of Zipp carbon wheels on my road sled and they are fantastic. Less spinning mass, even 100g per wheel make a big difference.
And yes i also pedal uphill on my roadbike. One thing i noticed on them is that they simply wont get untrue, no matter how badly i treat them compared to the last 5 or so sets of aluminium wheels. I live near the alps and do thousands of ft/m a month.
Are you just poor or one of those retarded unracers who think that a real bike should weigh 15kg+? No hate in either case, i just dont think that spending 5-8k on a bike is that much money if you use it regularly.
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>>2012861 I wasn't clear on this post
>>2012739 Are you incapable of explaining yourself, or are you just an asshole?
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>>2012601 >Yeah this was my experience with disc. Fiddly bullshit that didn't stop nearly well enough to justify the time and effort. And the fucking pads are 2mm thick. And your fork is ruined because it's as rigid as a rock. Trash gear hmm sounds like a skill issue
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>>2013043 >>2012601 i'm also not sure what the pads being 2mm thick has to do with anything
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>>2013049 My guess is he is annoyed that he wears them out via rubbing due to bad setup.
TBQH I haven't worn out a set of disk brake pads. Yeah I only rode xc mtb but I was riding 10-15 miles 5 times a week at the time.
I find disk to be a little more annoying to setup but they work so much better in the wet. That is the big difference for me, in the dry rim brakes are great, but man in the wet disk is where it's at.
Anonymous
>>2012549 Hydro disc brakes have been used in cars and motorcycles for decades. They work totally fine.
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>>2013130 yeah clearly the same mechanism is used in bicycles because all three of: hydro, disc and brake are involved
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>>2013137 I mean, pretty much. Are you retarded?
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>>2012549 Yes, yes, and 'YES'! Where can I sign up?