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We fix transportation for good.

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2024 21:00:13 No.2023238 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2023276 >>2023290 >>2025339 >>2025360 >>2025645

A token system:
>A person buys ~10 tokens
>Can use 1 token for bike, 2 for bus, 3 for train and/or 4 for short term ride sharing
>Now people have an incentive to use buses/trains/bikes, but also have something cheap for last mile.
You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2024 21:07:25 No.2023241 Report

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I think you need to actually make a town that can sustain any of those things first, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2024 00:31:09 No.2023262 Report

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Can't you just cut out the middleman and have it be fare-based i.e. $0.75 bike, $1.50 bus, $2.25 train, $3.00 rideshare
Most systems already use cards with stored value on them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2024 02:30:32 No.2023276 Report

Quoted By: >>2023296 >>2024818

>>2023238
I'm just gonna keep driving my car

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2024 05:41:07 No.2023290 Report

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>>2023238
>>A person buys ~10 tokens
So that does imply if I can financially afford it I can just buy a whole lot of tokens and always drive everywhere.
Meanwhile if I'm not I'd still have to buy a few tokens for riding my bike for which I wouldn't have to pay anything otherwise.
retarded idea desu.
I might be on board with it if every person gets a flat rate of tokens every month and there's no way to buy or acquire more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2024 06:45:33 No.2023296 Report

Quoted By: >>2023322

>>2023276
day of making automobilists pay their share soon (tm)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2024 15:59:10 No.2023322 Report

Quoted By: >>2023326 >>2024819 >>2024820

>>2023296
Motorists pay exorbitant fees at nearly every stage of vehicle ownership and operation. Meanwhile the cyclist contributes nothing while demanding access to the road, a parasite in every sense of the word

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2024 17:29:27 No.2023326 Report

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>>2023322
Motorists pay that much and it still isn't enough to truly pay all costs and damages associated with motoring despite heavy Government subsidies. The automobile is a capitalist's wet dream, the automobile requires financing and continued service for the average person, the infrastructure is paid for by the Government, the infrastructure divides communities, those communities pay taxes for a system of transportation that is designed to keep them poor. There is a lot of unnecessary service and wasted effort into maintaining the clown show to fool the world into buying our car dependent lifestyle just so we can say
>"We're doing fine! GDP go up"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2024 00:23:52 No.2023377 Report

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>>2023326
>Motorists pay that much and it still isn't enough to truly pay all costs and damages associated with motoring despite heavy Government subsidies
Is this going to be "ACKSHUALLY WHAT ABOUT COSTS TO SOCIETY" while ignoring the positive externalities, or is this going to be "MUH FUEL TAXES DON'T COVER IT ALL" while ignoring how much mass transit gets?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2024 03:13:32 No.2023399 Report

Quoted By: >>2023400 >>2023401

>>2023377
>positive externalities
tell me about the positive externalities the automobile brought then because I'm not ignoring them, there's just no real positives to a car dependent society

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2024 03:25:47 No.2023400 Report

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>>2023399
When the capacity for an individual to travel large distances at will in nearly all conditions is available to essentially all levels of society, it permits a level of economic and social freedom that is unparalleled. When an individual that would be otherwise tied to a local transport network can easily move to economic hubs, it opens opportunities that would be impossible in other systems. As a motor vehicle owner, I live on ten acres of land with livestock in a sparsley populated area, and yet I also work a fairly high paying job in a major metro area. No public transit network would realistically be capable of providing this service.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2024 03:35:03 No.2023401 Report

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>>2023399
They provide access to better jobs, work with logistics, improve the economy just by having access to anything and everything...not that it really means anything. The study drawn from that is from Ecological Economics, which is really just applied humanities, neither economics nor hard science. The study lists several factors like pollution, land use, "perceived safety and discomfort", and so forth and assigns numbers and costs to them. There is nothing mentioned in the paper about how they got to these numbers, nor are they calculated against positive externalities. It's literally junk science that cannot be replicated; let alone applied to real life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2024 06:19:30 No.2023406 Report

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>>2023400
>>2023401
>inb4 "uhh, no that doesn't count"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2024 17:54:08 No.2023440 Report

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>>2023400
>I live on ten acres of land with livestock in a sparsley populated area, and yet I also work a fairly high paying job in a major metro area.
You may be correct, I unironically want to destroy your way of life. Stalin did nothing wrong, the kulaks deserved it and so will (You).
But aside idgaf really, the problem is an incentive system where that makes at all sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2024 18:54:59 No.2024818 Report

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>>2023276
t. Fat idle cunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2024 18:56:10 No.2024819 Report

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>>2023322
>the cyclist contributes nothing
In the third world, maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2024 19:24:26 No.2024820 Report

Quoted By: >>2025356 >>2025361

>>2023322
The solution seems obvious. Stop paying the exorbitant fees and become a cyclist.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2024 22:28:13 No.2025332 Report

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I hate Buses and love trams and trains. Have you ever noticed that some Bus lanes have a B that looks like a 13.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2024 23:19:28 No.2025339 Report

Quoted By: >>2025362

>>2023238
Literally just tack on a vehicle weight surcharge to the registration fee commensurate to the damage it does to the road.
Allow the sale of kei cars/trucks in North America, and/or repeal that clause in the chicken tax that places an absurdly high tariff on small pickup trucks.
Harmonize taxes on SUVs and trucks by removing their exemption from the fuel guzzler tax
Use the money made to improve various bus/tram/rail connections and frequency up to and including an Amtrak-style consolidation of greyhound/(former) Megabus into a state-run entity that at least provides a coherent, country-wide standard to the current most robust, flexible and widespread form of public intercity transit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2024 02:30:57 No.2025356 Report

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>>2024820
The solution is to remove the jewish cabal infesting our governments and promoting infantile parasites and leeching off of productive people, along with all their supporters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2024 02:53:28 No.2025360 Report

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>>2023238
>We fix transportation for good.
Cut immigration to 0 so that western cities can build adequate infrastructure and not be on an infinite treadmill of population growth and construction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2024 02:56:18 No.2025361 Report

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>>2024820
>The solution seems obvious. Stop paying the exorbitant fees and become a cyclist.
In Canada the roads are frozen half of the year and we still have cyclists demanding bike lanes be installed everywhere. They still never get used because there's no grade separation and they don't feel safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2024 02:59:08 No.2025362 Report

Quoted By: >>2025420

>>2025339
>Use the money made to improve various bus/tram/rail connections and frequency up to and including an Amtrak-style consolidation of greyhound/(former) Megabus into a state-run entity that at least provides a coherent, country-wide standard to the current most robust, flexible and widespread form of public intercity transit
There's absolutely no need for the government to run the intercity bus networks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2024 17:25:35 No.2025420 Report

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>>2025362
Agree to disagree

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 11:00:42 No.2025645 Report

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>>2023238
>bro just one more line it will fix overcrowding this time it's different this time I swear

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