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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 01:01:49 No.965272 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>965288 >>965292 >>965319 >>968889 >>969176 >>969373

How many seasons before this is standard on all decent road bikes? It's annoying that this is still considered a niche feature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 01:08:38 No.965276 Report

Quoted By: >>965308 >>965345 >>965392 >>969118

"the peloton" will never want these because wheel swaps would take too long

so they'll never been as popular as you want them to be on high end bikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 01:10:33 No.965277 Report

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What, precisely, is your problem with dropouts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 01:36:17 No.965288 Report

Quoted By: >>965363

>>965272
> Literally asking for another useless standard to blow money on

Repent before it is too late, capitalist heretic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 01:44:33 No.965292 Report

Quoted By: >>965308 >>965315 >>965322

>>965272
Road cyclists will have to be convinced that disc brakes are worth the weight and aerodynamic losses first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 02:51:16 No.965308 Report

Quoted By: >>965312 >>968443

>>965276
once they figure out a standard for QR thru axles (i.e. pay scott licensing bux), wheel swap time will be minimal, maybe even better because there's no chance of fucking it up

the bike industry will want to push them because of the increased lateral stiffies you get, especially in the fork area, which makes handling a lil' nicer

>>965292
i want them independent of dick breaks desu wa yo. dicks are of marginal utility on road bikes unless you run garbon rimz, but big thick and hard thru axles are genuinely useful things

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 02:59:53 No.965312 Report

Quoted By: >>965323 >>965367

>>965308

Now that you mention it, yeah.
I'll probably hold off on upgrading until it becomes the new standard on race bikes.

Wonder how long until they figure out a good way to monetize half-step gearing...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 03:10:16 No.965315 Report

Quoted By: >>965377

>>965292
>aerodynamic losses
nice try fred, but disc bikes can be made more aerodynamic as a whole than rim brake bikes due to not needing to shape the rim around needing a braking surface

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 03:41:54 No.965319 Report

Quoted By: >>965326 >>969077

>>965272

>Roid cyclists
>Only now discovering the benefits of thru axles and hydraulic disc brakes

Holy shit you lycra loving faggots are slow...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 03:47:32 No.965322 Report

Quoted By: >>969161

>>965292
Disc brake wheels don't need rim braking surface so the bikes can be just as light. Plus it's easy as fuck to make sub-weight-limit bikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 03:48:41 No.965323 Report

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>>965312
>tfw no blacked out disc brake thru axle aero road bike with full SRAM Red
Why even live?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 04:00:06 No.965326 Report

Quoted By: >>965334 >>965341 >>965367 >>969132 >>969139

>>965319
>>Only now discovering the benefits of thru axles and hydraulic disc brakes

hey look, it's a fuggen MTB consumer retard. Have fun driving your $2,000 plastic toy to the trails bro? GNAR GNAR also muh travel

Sieg

Sieg Tue 07 Jun 2016 04:16:03 No.965334 Report

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>>965326
I-its c-carbb-on fiber it's just covered in plastic I I mmmean super special scientifically UV resistant glue I mean 2part epoxy iii mean plastic glue I mean science hardner!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 04:45:31 No.965341 Report

Quoted By: >>965346

>>965326
Just throwing this out there, but I like the group of people that spend large sums of money for bleeding edge bike tech. Those are the people that fund advancements in cycling. They pay tons of money to try out the latest and greatest, then we get the refined products that came from the stuff that was deemed good enough.
I certainly don't want to spend thousands on unproven tech, but I sure am glad there are people out there that will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 05:29:01 No.965345 Report

Quoted By: >>965377

>>965276

Why does everybody always say that? Have they ever used a thru axle? I can install a thru axle with my eyes closed wayyy faster than lining up the the stupid lawyer clips and shit that make up a QR axle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 05:32:38 No.965346 Report

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>>965341
As a fellow late adopter on everything, I'm with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 05:48:04 No.965348 Report

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You need compatible hubs and frames for these though, right? What production frames actually support these?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 06:52:31 No.965363 Report

Quoted By: >>965467

>>965288
>useless
MUH STIFFNESS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 07:06:56 No.965367 Report

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>>965326
i like mtb and road equally lets fukken fite bitch

>>965312
>mfw 3x7 half step automatic electronic shifting with KERS boostu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 08:08:24 No.965377 Report

Quoted By: >>965382 >>965384 >>965392

>>965345
The pro bikes don't have lawyer lips.

>>965315
That's true but are any manufacturers actually capitalising on that yet? It's a very niche market.

sieg

sieg Tue 07 Jun 2016 08:28:50 No.965382 Report

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>>965377
they don't need to yet

you will buy a new a bike because you want dics and maybe in 5 years

you'll buy a new bike because through axels are heavily marketed and the forks that come with them are an all new special tappered design that doesn't fit in your still functional disc road bike frame

but its okay because now direct mount rim brakes are the new hotness and you NEED THAT BECAUSE BIKE TECHNOLOGY IS ON THE FOREFRONT OF INDUSTRY!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 08:35:28 No.965384 Report

Quoted By: >>965394

>>965377
>The pro bikes don't have lawyer lips.
Yes they do

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 09:36:20 No.965392 Report

Quoted By: >>965394

>>965377
Yes they do now. UCI banned removing lawyer lips.

>>965276
With disc brakes well designed through axle will make wheel changes faster because there's no need to line anything and it just works. Without lawyer lips QR would be faster but that's not relevant since they're required nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 09:37:14 No.965393 Report

Quoted By: >>965394

Forgive an ignorant casualfag, but what are advantages of through-axle?
I didn't even know they were a thing until i bough my fatbike a week ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 09:51:54 No.965394 Report

Quoted By: >>965395 >>969165

>>965392
>>965384
Ah ok.

>>965393
It's stiffer and in the case of disc brakes won't rip out of the fork.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 09:57:32 No.965395 Report

Quoted By: >>965469

>>965394
How? Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:29:22 No.965467 Report

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>>965363
TA stiffens traveling forks where the legs can move independently, only braced by a flexy bridge. This tilts the wheel. The TA acts as a brace as it's at a fixed angle to the fork where a QR wheel is "loose". A triangle where none of the legs are allowed to shrink/stretch in the first place doesn't have that problem.
Rigid forks don't need TA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:32:38 No.965469 Report

Quoted By: >>965505

>>965395
A braking force acting in roughly the same height as the hub but behind the fork will try to eject the wheel. Lawyer lips are realy usefull things to have on disc forks. The standard should have been caliper in front of fork blade on the drive side, but the industry went all 'muh aesthetic appeal'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 16:56:57 No.965505 Report

Quoted By:

>>965469
A much more valid point for TA is dependable alignment and stiffness.
Fuck that wobbly qr shit.
Also most modern TA mounts have nice slots to lay the hub onto prior to inserting the axle unlike op fag pic related making it as fast as qr, just better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jun 2016 19:56:45 No.968443 Report

Quoted By: >>968860 >>968880

>>965308
>dicks are of marginal utility on road bikes
mine's often in the way too. balls are even worse.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 23:05:10 No.968860 Report

Quoted By: >>968872 >>968874 >>968890 >>968931

>>968443
I must admit when I get passed by a fredette on a de rosa and I see dat gap, my thoughts turn to how comfy cycling would be without balls and a dick

pick vaguely related

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 23:33:21 No.968872 Report

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>>968860
Pretty sure the womanbits aren't that comfy either. Haven't tried it though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 23:41:00 No.968874 Report

Quoted By: >>969136

>>968860
Bigger issue is what kind of underwear you chose. Sometimes, it's like sitting on two pencils, where your legs meet your body, if you're not wearing cycling shorts or at least compression shorts.

Any sort of bike seat like this is a clit destroyer, though.
Must avoid at all costs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 00:17:42 No.968880 Report

Quoted By: >>968887

>>968443
There's a reason why the best cyclist in the history of the sport cut off one of his balls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 01:03:48 No.968887 Report

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>>968880
EPOs give you ball cancer?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 01:10:17 No.968889 Report

Quoted By: >>968902

>>965272
They shouldn't change any standard until there is a tangible and meaningful gain, not small increments. Because I say so, like going up to an 11speed cassette because Lee marketing, making sure your current bike parts are obsolete or just pissing me off. It's planned obsolescence and marketing bullshit that you should know better than to get excited over. I don't care of it's a little tiny bit better. The only I'll notice is that I had to upgrade my bike sooner and that I have less money. How does that make riding more enjoyable you cuck. Holy cow you got me mad you consumer whore, do you even ride?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 01:12:59 No.968890 Report

Quoted By: >>968892 >>968899

>>968860
They say the rubbing can get them horny a hell and they'll cum quicker during sex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 01:22:55 No.968892 Report

Quoted By: >>968899

>>968890
I am convinced that women don't experience pleasure from sex, they just pretend because they think we're stupid

Except this one girl, the first I ever had sex with. She was a deeply mentally ill nymphomaniac who basically lived for spreading her legs for men that she thought were beneath her. Having sex with her was like committing stranger rape, nothing else will ever compare

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 01:37:32 No.968899 Report

Quoted By: >>974215

>>968890
Unless you're already aroused, or thinking about it, the motion of pedaling isn't going to do much for you.
Just putting weight on your pubic bone now and again isn't comparable to rolling your hips like you do when you're fucking.

>>968892
And a fedora tip to you to, sir

Sieg

Sieg Thu 16 Jun 2016 01:51:32 No.968902 Report

Quoted By: >>968915

>>968889
Planned obsolescence works so well though

There are more people like op than not

So new Madden game every year, new super hero movies, new smart phone and now new bikes.....and soon new electric car every year

It's how business operates today....selling quality things that last 20 years isn't how it's done anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 02:32:37 No.968915 Report

Quoted By:

>>968902
Shut up you bellend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 02:53:13 No.968931 Report

Quoted By:

>>968860
i get passed by qts all the time because of my stupid dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 10:36:45 No.969077 Report

Quoted By: >>969080

>>965319
Disc breaks will not stick in the pro peloton. Riders warned of serious accidents when the UCI started allowing in, and sure enough, a few races into the test period we saw a rider getting his shin sliced open without even going down.
They would at least have to cover them properly of it's going to be used in the future. Also vaguely remember there being some reports on them being a significant aero loss, especially in crosswinds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 10:46:43 No.969080 Report

Quoted By: >>969096

>>969077
That was a chainring though. It was on the wrong side and not a clean slice as you would expect from discs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 11:41:44 No.969096 Report

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>>969080
You're right.
It's still an obvious hazard though. You can tell just by looking at it that it's a question of time before it would cause some bad accident if allowed in its current form.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 13:42:56 No.969118 Report

Quoted By: >>969231 >>969241 >>969457

>>965276
>"the peloton" will never want these because wheel swaps would take too long

I'm not a roadie but you should definitely check out what SR Suntour has been working on in cooperation with BH bikes. They have a clever QR system for bolt-thru axles both front and rear.

Article:
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/bike-check-maxime-marottes-bh-ultimate-29-xco-world-cup-round-3-2016.html

Video (wheel change @0:46):
https://youtu.be/R_PU-XHzHhY

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 15:02:54 No.969132 Report

Quoted By:

>>965326
>2000 dollary-doos
>mtb
my bike probably cost more than your bike, senpai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 15:24:43 No.969136 Report

Quoted By:

>>968874
this post gave me a semi

hank trill

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hank trill Thu 16 Jun 2016 15:32:37 No.969139 Report

Quoted By:

>>965326
>Tfw too poor to afford anything but steel and aluminum

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 16:31:48 No.969161 Report

Quoted By:

>>965322
No. They can't be as light. We have 20 years of discs on MTBs and still V-braked ones are lighter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 16:34:12 No.969165 Report

Quoted By:

>>965394
Additionally, with through axles discs are always lined with the caliper, wherein on QR there is some wiggle room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 16:55:15 No.969176 Report

Quoted By:

>>965272
It's already happening. More and more bikes are moving over to disc brakes.

That said, it's kind of annoying for cyclocross because I actually prefer cantilever brakes and how easy they are to clear the mud and faster when needing to fix a flat or change a wheel out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 17:02:38 No.969181 Report

Quoted By: >>969200 >>969224 >>969373 >>969619

It's not about wheel changes, it's about not wanting 2 more stupidly hot sharp metal discs when you're racing inches away from someone trying to get on the front before a key climb or a sprint or what have you, when cycling is dangerous enough as it is. When riders say no, it's not going to happen unless the ASO gets involved (which looks unlikely).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 17:44:59 No.969200 Report

Quoted By: >>969204 >>969205

>>969181

lol
Riders aren't saying "no", because objectively better brakes help PREVENT crashes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 17:56:41 No.969204 Report

Quoted By: >>969205

>>969200
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/uci-ignored-rider-fears-dangers-disc-brakes-claims-cpa-221442

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 17:58:51 No.969205 Report

Quoted By:

>>969200
further to my link in, I forgot to add >>969204
braking doesn't make any difference when there's a crash in a full bore 60kmh in a sprint leadout or climb approach. Please actually race your bike in an elite bunch of some numbers before commenting you pleb.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:10:55 No.969224 Report

Quoted By: >>969227 >>969229 >>969619

>>969181

Why don't they just grow some balls... I doubt many people have been injured from discs in mass start MTB races.

Oh Noes!! All those scary, dangerous discs. people must be dying left, right and center.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:21:58 No.969227 Report

Quoted By: >>969249

>>969224
I think the disc ban is about mitigation of risk more than anything, there was only that one guy that got a pretty nasty laceration from a disc, but for road racing discs add basically nothing in advantage to the way road races are run, so theres not really any reason to have them if they present even a little bit extra hazard.

Discs are great on road bikes for normal people, problem is, everyone wants the shit that the pros use, so bike companies would have to find a way to market them to everyday joes, which probably won't ever happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:23:05 No.969229 Report

Quoted By: >>969233 >>969234 >>969619

>>969224
>I doubt many people have been injured from discs in mass start MTB races.

that's because no MTB race involves 200 riders at 60kmh+ centimetres away from each other, constantly fighting for position

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:27:03 No.969231 Report

Quoted By: >>969247

>>969118
how do MTBs even use a power meter?

on the road, pacing by meter can be a bit tricky if the road changes gradient quite a lot, yet thats nothing compared to how fast the terrain changes in mountain biking

is it just something pros use for data after the race?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:27:39 No.969233 Report

Quoted By: >>969236 >>969246 >>969619

>>969229
> no MTB race involves 200 riders at 60kmh+ centimetres away from each other, constantly fighting for position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v26MYX7VcVg

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:29:08 No.969234 Report

Quoted By:

>>969229
he posted the picture of that megatard race as a snarky thing saying MTBs do have mass races

but everyone that does that is signing 'I am a fucking retard that's going to get hurt' in the papers so its not really relatable at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:30:59 No.969236 Report

Quoted By: >>969243

>>969233
yay, you posted a bunch of riders together moving at 10mph (which never happens after this) as if thats comparable at all to road racing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:43:42 No.969241 Report

Quoted By:

>>969118
>I'm not a roadie but you should definitely check out what SR Suntour has been working on in cooperation with BH bikes. They have a clever QR system for bolt-thru axles both front and rear.

woah

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:44:14 No.969243 Report

Quoted By: >>969245 >>969466

>>969236

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:45:30 No.969245 Report

Quoted By: >>969250

>>969243
That's adorable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:47:49 No.969246 Report

Quoted By: >>969248 >>969250 >>969264 >>969619

>>969233
that's nowhere near as fast or as close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE97iUvSHk0

and that's an easy, uncomplicated finish with strong leadouts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:54:07 No.969247 Report

Quoted By:

>>969231
>is it just something pros use for data after the race?
Exactly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:56:17 No.969248 Report

Quoted By: >>969252

>>969246
What a bunch of twats. If another rider laid his hands on me he'd be getting a nice back hand to the face. Also if they get close enough that their leg touches my bike then they deserve to get sliced up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:56:43 No.969249 Report

Quoted By:

>>969227
The reason is that the freds that sponsor advances in technology never actually ride when it's not sunny and 67 degrees out, so we'll all be using micro suspension hubs and wireless shifting by 2025 even on BSO thanks to them, but brakes that work in the rain or lightweight efficient dyno hubs or lightweight 11 speed ighs or thru axle or whatever will always be either stupidly expensive and/or incompatible with anything else good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 19:58:36 No.969250 Report

Quoted By: >>969252

>>969245
>>969246
Look, you said something stupid because you don't know what you are talking about, that's ok, it's an anonymous site, nobody knows you are a moron. Why keep trying to save face? I race both road and XC, people ride just as close in starts and some finishes, and pileups feel the same. The Leadville start is way sketchier than any crit or road race, a lot of the fast qualifiers have never been in a pack, it's all downhill, there are random choke points, everyone has 32t chainrings and there are some singlespeeders so people are spinning 150rpm trying to keep up, it's a shit show. There's 1500 people and someone broke their collarbone in the start every year until 2014. Not a single person has ever been concerned about, or injured by a brake disc. That said I think discs on road bikes are useless and offer 0 advantage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 20:00:10 No.969252 Report

Quoted By: >>969254 >>969260

>>969248
I'm very disappointed.

You were trolling well.

I genuinely believed you were an idiot who didn't understand the realities of elite road racing, it was very convincing, and now you blew it.

8/10 though, nicely done.

>>969250
I'm sure you do elite european racing all the time, don't worry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 20:06:08 No.969254 Report

Quoted By: >>969287

>>969252
>You were trolling well.
That was my first post in this thread.

My opinion on disc brakes is that for me the significantly greater performance outweighs the few negatives (I don't race so don't care much about the weight, less aero design, or wheel change difficulties). My commuting bikes and MTBs have them and I wouldn't go back to rim brakes. However if someone else wants to use rim brakes that's fine, it's their choice and for them the disadvantages of discs might be more significant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 20:21:40 No.969260 Report

Quoted By:

>>969252
So hot disc brakes injuring riders in pileups is only a possibility in "elite european racing"? What is your argument?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 20:33:33 No.969264 Report

Quoted By:

>>969246
Damn - if road races were covered like this, live, then I would watch that shit like crazy. Damn that is intense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 21:41:01 No.969287 Report

Quoted By: >>969291 >>971729

>>969254
I continue to use rim brakes rather than disc brakes even though I have a pretty expensive bike because they're easier to service. Changing brake pads takes 5 minutes... I honestly don't even want to fuck with bleeding my hydraulic break lines when I need to service them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 21:54:57 No.969291 Report

Quoted By: >>969310

>>969287
Not that I'm in any sort of rush when working on my bike but I'm certain I can change my disc pads quicker than rim pads. All you do is pull a pin, slide the old pads out, slide the new ones in and then put the pin back, literally less than a minute per end. Some calipers require you to remove the wheel but even then it doesn't take very long.

As for bleeding, it's not something you have to do very often and can be quite easy depending on the specific brake model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 22:41:11 No.969310 Report

Quoted By: >>969315 >>969321

>>969291
Reminder that nobody who has actual experience using discs disputes their superiority

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 23:36:26 No.969315 Report

Quoted By:

>>969310
I have experience using discs and dispute their superiority

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2016 23:51:37 No.969321 Report

Quoted By: >>969323 >>969367

>>969310

Have you installed Dick brakes before or are you just a pleb?

V-brakes are superior for non-athletes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 00:05:00 No.969323 Report

Quoted By:

>>969321
V brakes are the second best rim brakes (next to hydraulic rim brakes) but they're still not as good as discs. They have a lot of holding power, technically more than discs due to the greater leverage, but they still have all the draw backs of rim and cable actuated brakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 02:54:18 No.969367 Report

Quoted By: >>969369 >>969430

>>969321
>dick brakes: install brake loosely, pull brake lever, tighten bolts, when pads are worn, replace pads, wow, that was hard
>rim brakes: fight with fifty different interdependent axes of alignment for an hour until it's sort of lined up with mostly no squealing, oops the pad wore slightly and you made the mistake of riding a bit more instead of dropping everything and spending six hours readjusting, enjoy your blown out sidewalls!
Rim brakes should be banned on the grounds of common sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 02:56:54 No.969369 Report

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>>969367
you should be banned from life on the grounds of sucking at it

VeganRider !!hkOt4QHOoFN

VeganRider !!hkOt4QHOoFN Fri 17 Jun 2016 03:12:17 No.969373 Report

Quoted By: >>969374 >>969393 >>969468

>>965272
I agree.
>tfw no blacked out aero road bike with discs, thru axles, slammed stem, and full SRAM Red
Why even live?
>>969181
Only the UCI faggots are saying no. The riders are saying yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 03:17:36 No.969374 Report

Quoted By: >>969375 >>969395

>>969373

>Only the UCI faggots are saying no. The riders are saying yes.

It's probably fucking Sram spreading all the anti disc brake shit. They can't design a hydraulic brake if their lives depended on it so they're probably trying to hold back the change for as long as they can.

VeganRider !!hkOt4QHOoFN

VeganRider !!hkOt4QHOoFN Fri 17 Jun 2016 03:19:01 No.969375 Report

Quoted By: >>969469

>>969374
SRAM isn't perfect, but at least they're better than Shimano.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 04:45:02 No.969393 Report

Quoted By:

>>969373
>The riders are saying yes.
sweet trip, sieg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 04:53:57 No.969395 Report

Quoted By: >>969427

>>969374
Sram was at the forefront of the disc revolution. Against is merely the innate conservatism of road cyclists in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 07:21:07 No.969427 Report

Quoted By:

>>969395
>innate conservatism
you're talking about the group that swallowed plastic frames and electronic shifting like your mom swallows cum

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 07:32:37 No.969430 Report

Quoted By:

>>969367
>loosen pad bolts
>rubber band on handle
>align pads to track
>pull handle hard
>tighten bolts
Yeah, extremely super complicated. Calipers are hands down the easiest brakes to install and adjust. You must be emoyionaly scarred by a crappy cantilever made from mild cheese that squirms all over and needs German engineering, laboratory suit, cleanroom style toe in. But you sure as hell aren't describing caliper brakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 12:54:14 No.969457 Report

Quoted By:

>>969118
have these axles on my bike, excellent overall can swap whells in like 8 sec

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 13:50:12 No.969466 Report

Quoted By: >>969604 >>969619

>>969243
so...some guys ride mountain bikes down hill for 3 miles at the start of a long race where everyone is strung out for miles traveling at 10 mph, an hour after the start

how is this comparable to the risks in road racing again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 13:57:10 No.969468 Report

Quoted By: >>971729

>>969373
I don't think there has been a single pro rider that supported the use of discs, if there has been certainly more against it than for it.

What riders support the use of discs?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 13:59:53 No.969469 Report

Quoted By: >>969607 >>971729

>>969375
>Sram
>Good

Sram is literally so shit they can't design a FD that works so they cooked up this 1x bullshit marketing scheme

I've had 3 Sram groups. Never again. Sram can go fuck itself. Pure garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 22:20:00 No.969604 Report

Quoted By:

>>969466

It's not like road race courses are 200km continuous downhills. Most the time they're doing under 40kph on flat ground, somewhat spread out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 22:24:31 No.969607 Report

Quoted By:

>>969469
I like YAW. It's one of the only things besides weight I like about SRAM over Shimano. Long arm FD can suck a dick. I hate having to trim it, and I hate that it downshifts into the high-low position.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2016 23:07:40 No.969619 Report

Quoted By:

>>969466
Let's go back and reread the thread anon

>>969181
This poster says it's a problem to have hot discs when riding in a pack

>>969224
This poster says it hasn't been a problem in MTB racing

>>969229
This poster says there aren't any MTB races with 200 riders fighting for position

>>969233
This poster shows that isn't the case

>>969246
This poster tries to discount that by posting a gopro video of a sprint finish

Let's regroup here: one or two posters are claiming that hot discs are a problem in "elite European road racing," but not in races like Megavalanche or Leadville. In the example of a sprint finish why would anyone's discs be hot? They are hardly braking at all, while a downhill mass start MTB race they clearly are. Then this guy pops up
>>969466
What are you even trying to say and what does it have to do with disc brakes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 22:23:47 No.971729 Report

Quoted By: >>971732 >>971739

>>969287
>I've never used disc brakes
>Let me tell you how shit they are

>>969468
Absolutely correct. Every pro MTB rider curses under their breath as they start their runs, saddled as they are with treacherous disc brakes. If it weren't for those dastardly manufacturing concerns, they'd be running V-brakes like back in the good-old-days.

>>969469
>1x bullshit marketing
1x was a thing long before Sram made a dedicated gruppo for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 22:28:19 No.971732 Report

Quoted By:

>>971729
1x was a niche thing, not the answer to everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 22:35:38 No.971739 Report

Quoted By:

>>971729
> Every pro MTB rider curses under their breath as they start their runs, saddled as they are with treacherous disc brakes
He was talking about road bikes, the UCI doesn't ban disc for mountain bikes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 23:21:05 No.974159 Report

Quoted By:

>>965

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 00:41:07 No.974215 Report

Quoted By: >>974226

>>968899
and yet riding the washing machine on the spin cycle is a thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 01:00:18 No.974226 Report

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>>974215
When you ride a washing machine, you're already trying to masturbate, and you have free range of pushing your hips back and forth.
Now, I know we're on /n/, but those of us who've actually ridden bicycles know that throwing your hips back and forth isn't something you normally do on a ride.

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