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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 01:13:48 No.975944 View View Reply Original Report

I'm jonesing for a train ride, but I live in norailsanywhereazona. Any suggestions? Also, make me jealous of your passenger trains.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 03:58:06 No.975994 Report

Quoted By: >>975997 >>978347 >>984295

>>975944
>make me jealous
HSR across Europe
>dem speeds
Why cant Merika?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 03:59:47 No.975995 Report

Quoted By: >>975996

>make me jealous
Melbourne commuter train network
to and through suburbia from city centre terminal, lines are 30-50km
high frequency every few minutes morning and evening peaks
20-30 minutes off peak :\

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 04:02:00 No.975996 Report

Quoted By: >>976010 >>976012

>>975995
in the city centre and surrounding urban area and oldest inner most suburbs there is the largest tram network in the world

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 04:04:29 No.975997 Report

Quoted By: >>976030 >>984295

>>975994
>hurr durr france is only the size of texas thats why merika dont need not hsr

And yet there is no HSR linking the cities of Texas but there is HSR linking the cities of France

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 04:45:48 No.976010 Report

Quoted By: >>976011

>>975996
several vintage trams have been rebuilt into restaurants for tourist operation

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 04:47:12 No.976011 Report

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>>976010
Can you feel the jelly rising?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 04:49:34 No.976012 Report

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>>975996
There is an unfinished and never used streetcar tunnel under Cincinnati
They began building it in the 1910s, then WWI/post war inflation/Great Depression/WWII all conspired to deprive them of the funds and manpower to finish it and finally they boarded it up in the 1950s
Several hundred thousand dollars is still spent every year maintaining it

Cincinnati has otherwise zero public transit
Really makes you think

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 05:35:19 No.976030 Report

Quoted By: >>976312

>>975997
But they're building a shinkansen in texas

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 06:21:24 No.976041 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sG-UwjlrX4

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 09:55:57 No.976081 Report

Quoted By: >>976088

>>975944
Foamers are just people who don't have trains as part of their everyday lives, aren't they

It's like being a weeaboo but for an inanimate object

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 10:28:57 No.976088 Report

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>>976081
Oh, you have a bunch of people working for railroads too who still carry the torch. It's a joy talking to someone like that because they know literally everything.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 11:52:03 No.976106 Report

Quoted By: >>976113

About the same population as Phoenix, but more than 100km of subway, plus 30km of tram line. Also hundreds of km of commuter trains (not pictured).

>subway has been expanded a bit too much and the trams a bit too little, but it's perfect to make some burger jelly.

in all seriousness tho, I feel for you, burgerfriend, since you're clearly not of the
>hurr durr muh freedumz
sort. Sucks for your cities having lost their streetcar systems, shit could've been pretty cash if you kept those.

Ithaqua

Ithaqua Mon 04 Jul 2016 12:38:50 No.976113 Report

Quoted By: >>976166 >>976313

>>976106
Quite a few US cities still have streetcars. Some have built new systems. Cheaper than heavy rail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 15:11:54 No.976166 Report

Quoted By: >>976173 >>976242 >>984244 >>991230

>>976113
>Quite a few US cities still have streetcars.
San Francisco, Boston, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh. Am I missing one? Those have 1st gen lines, fractions of the former system.

I think on the whole of the american continent only Toronto has truly kept its streetcar system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 15:20:05 No.976173 Report

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>>976166
Newark and Cleveland, possibly some others that have a light rail line or two that can trace their heritage to some interurban that never got closed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 17:25:16 No.976217 Report

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Haven't been on a train for ages desu.

Live basically on the WCML so get trains like this to London, and the line goes all the way up to Glasgow.

One day when I've got my touring bike and all that stuff sorted I'll go on a bike tour in Scotland and I'll get the train up, easier than flying with a bike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 18:05:29 No.976242 Report

Quoted By: >>976280

>>976166
Portland, San Diego, Seattle & Tacoma, Salt Lake City, Tucson, Atlanta, Dallas, Washington DC, Kansas City. Arguably others as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 19:27:11 No.976280 Report

Quoted By: >>976314

>>976242
>1st gen lines
>1st gen lines
>1st gen lines
>1st gen lines
>1st gen lines
>1st gen lines

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 21:10:09 No.976312 Report

Quoted By: >>981331 >>991229

>>976030
Why even bother? There is no rail inside Houston or Dallas so how would you get to the Shinkansen and how would you get about when you arrive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 21:11:11 No.976313 Report

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>>976113
Theyhave a dinky little lightrail in the downtown
One route
3-5 miles long
Whole city still auto dependent

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 21:15:52 No.976314 Report

Quoted By: >>976334

>>976280
Who fucking cares whether it's 1st or 2nd gen? They're still streetcars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 22:12:32 No.976334 Report

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>>976314
Because I was specifically asking which cities had somehow kept lines or systems instead of having them scrapped. It was more of a historically-oriented question.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2016 20:46:15 No.978339 Report

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Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2016 21:23:13 No.978347 Report

Quoted By: >>980831 >>993566

>>976012
>Several hundred thousand dollars is still spent every year maintaining it
Does that imply that there are plans to eventually complete it? It could be the longest-built underground system in the world kek

>otherwise zero public transit
>zero
picrelated

>>975994
Whoever has made this map in 2015 hasn't done his research well. There are no passenger trains between Vilnius and Riga since 2008. I'd assume that some other lines in Eastern Europe pictured in this map don't exist anymore as well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 10:09:17 No.980508 Report

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Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 16:06:10 No.980617 Report

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Right down the road from me...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 16:11:32 No.980626 Report

Quoted By: >>980628 >>980868

>>980617
Also this...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 16:12:34 No.980628 Report

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>>980626
This, too...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jul 2016 00:56:54 No.980831 Report

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>>978347
>one line at 12 minutes
>3 lines under 15 minutes
That's pretty much zero anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jul 2016 02:15:59 No.980868 Report

Quoted By: >>981319

>>980626
What is the name of that? It looks cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2016 02:12:27 No.981319 Report

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>>980868
Mt. Washington Cog Railway.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2016 02:54:45 No.981330 Report

Quoted By: >>988805

>will never know the comfyness of a competent and useful train system
how'd we fuck up so bad, ameribros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2016 03:00:08 No.981331 Report

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>>976312
Car rental, taxi, ridesharing, transit...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Jul 2016 19:56:08 No.983932 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jul 2016 15:45:41 No.984244 Report

Quoted By: >>984315

>>976166
new orleans

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jul 2016 17:50:18 No.984295 Report

Quoted By: >>987345 >>987410

>>975997
>What are population densities

Metropolitan France is roughly three times as dense as Texas. That's three times as many people to potentially ride the railways.

New Jersey - 1210.10/sq mi (467.2/sq km)
Rhode Island - 1,021.6/sq mi (394.4/sq km)
Netherlands - (393/sq km)
Belgium - (337/sq km)
Massachusetts - 871.1/sq mi (336.3/sq km)
Connecticut - 741.6/sq mi (286.3/sq km)
United Kingdom - (269/sq km)
Maryland - 618.7/sq mi (238.9/sq km)
Germany - (233/sq km)
Italy - (192/sq km)
Delaware - 485.3/sq mi (187.4/sq km)
Luxembourg - (173/sq km)
New York - 420.1/sq mi (162.2/sq km)
Florida - 378.0/sq mi (145.9/sq km)
Czech Republic - (130/sq km)
France - (116/sq km)
Pennsylvania - 286.1/sq mi (110.5 /sq km)
Ohio - 284.2/sq mi (109.7/sq km)
Portugal - (109/sq km)

California - 251.3/sq mi (97.0/sq km)
Austria - (97/sq km)
Spain - (92/sq km)
Illinois - 231.6/sq mi (89.4/sq km)
Romania - (80/sq km)

Lithuania - (44/sq km)
Texas - 105.2/sq mi (40.6/sq km)
Latvia - (37/sq km)
United States - 89.5/sq mi (34.6/sq km)
Estonia - (28/sq km)
Colorado - 52.6/sq mi (20.3/sq km)
Sweden - (20/sq km)
Oregon - 42.0/sq mi (16.2/sq km)
Finland - (16/sq km)
Russia - (8/sq km)
Idaho - 20.0/sq mi (7.7/sq km)

>>975994
High Speed Rail needs to at least partially justify the cost of construction through ridership (or at least projected future ridership). If we can't even get the line where all the big cities and people are running at high speed, what hope is there for the rest of the country?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jul 2016 18:26:04 No.984315 Report

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>>984244
No, Anon, America's longest-running streetcar line doesn't count. Everyone knows the South is just rednecks in pickup trucks. Look, they're even so poor they have to run original equipment from the 1930s.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 20:58:24 No.987345 Report

Quoted By: >>992307

>>984295
>>What are population densities
>Russia - (8/sq km)
>United States - 89.5/sq mi (34.6/sq km)

Russia got HSR

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 00:20:31 No.987401 Report

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There are lots of steam locomotive day trips in the UK which is nice. For £99 you can go from London to Exeter return service. It's a pretty good price considering your journey begins at 7 am and you arrive back in London at 11 pm, you get about 6 hours to explore Exeter too.

Pic related is the loco, Duchess of Sutherland. Princess Coronation Class Pacific.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 01:08:38 No.987410 Report

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>>984295
>what hope is there for the rest of the country?
Why the fuck would you build HSR everywhere? Answer that first.

The density argument is BS. Rail lines -- ESPECIALLY HSR LINES -- serve particular points (stations, goods yards) and their hinterlands. They don't serve random places in between. If you build HSR between Houston and Dallas, it makes NO difference to people in the panhandle. Where do you build HSR? WHERE IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE! The hurrdurr "my state isn't dense" argument doesn't cut any sort of ice at all; it only shows that the density is there in the mind of the arguer.

Look, it's simple: the states are not clustered around rail routes, not even in the NEC. They're totally the wrong statistical area tool for this task. And remember this about Europe: population density or not, we don't run HSR for everything or to everywhere because that would be expensive and dumb.

We've upped our argument skills. Up yours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 16:13:13 No.988805 Report

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>>981330
By not taxing gasoline and diesel enough

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 23:16:27 No.991207 Report

Quoted By: >>992501 >>992502

Don't really want to make my own thread and this is the nearest I'm going to get.

I've never been on a train before, live in the UK (north east) but not London so it's never been mandatory for me to know anything about them, but I want to visit down South at some point and the train is probably the cheapest method, besides driving myself, and I also want to start getting into backpacking at some point and all the national parks are a good couple of hours drive away (and I'm not leaving my car unattended overnight) or a train journey away.

How the fuck do I go about getting on a train?

Is it all handled through automatic ticket machines now? Does it walk you through?

What happens if you get a return and miss it? Is it like a bus ticket where your return can be used at any point through the day?

What are peak hours? I assume that's going to affect the price and probably my return? (Non-peak return can only be used on non-peak hours?)

How much would I save booking in advance? If it's not a massive amount, I'd rather not be worried about it and just show up on the day I want to go camping and get a single or return.

How rude are the customer service people, if I needed help with actually getting my ticket? (I'll be getting a ticket at a 'main' train station, Durham)

I've got really bad anxiety, which isn't helping me use trains for the first time (guess I was this way with buses as well until I started and now I use them 2-4 times a day). I also find trains kind of offputting, although my fear of them only really applies to long-haul trains in places like America for some reason, there's just something very offputting about them, rolling up to empty train stops in the middle of nowhere, combined with rural towns it's almost lovecraftian.

Anyway, feel free to shitpost and call me a baby, but if I just get a partially helpful reply I'll be content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 00:21:14 No.991229 Report

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>>976312
uber

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 00:23:06 No.991230 Report

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>>976166
Los Angeles still has its streetcars, the PC routes are the Metro routes that were left in the 1960s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Aug 2016 03:40:46 No.992307 Report

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>>987345
Russian HSR connects the two largest cities, so saying Russia somehow is an exception to the density trend is fucking retarded.
It's like saying "durrr tajikistan has HSR!!!"
Yeah, between two cities which make up something like 20% of the entire country's population.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Aug 2016 05:23:54 No.992336 Report

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Arizona? Do the grand canyon railroad bruh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Aug 2016 18:42:50 No.992501 Report

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>>991207
I wish I could help, hut as an amerifat who's never ridden a train for purposes of transit, I have no idea either. I wish you good luck, though. Anxiety can be a bitch, I know, but you just gotta push past it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Aug 2016 18:48:34 No.992502 Report

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>>991207
It all depends on the train line, you can look this up on the website which will also calculate your route, tell you the fare, give you schedules, etc

Internet is an amazing thing, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Aug 2016 09:31:50 No.993566 Report

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>>978347
>Whoever has made this map in 2015 hasn't done his research well. There are no passenger trains between Vilnius and Riga since 2008.
That's a shame, had a bit of a fascination with the Baltic states since childhood, it would be nice to travel them by rail rather than by bus.

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