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Biden pardons everyone

Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2025 12:40:35 No.1375477 View View Reply Original Report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/biden-issues-preemptive-pardons-for-milley-fauci-jan-6-panel-members-and-police-officers/ar-AA1xw64p

WASHINGTON — With just a few hours remaining in office, President Joe Biden issued a slew of pardons Monday morning to preemptively protect people President-elect Donald Trump had threatened.

Biden pardoned former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley, Dr. Anthony Fauci, members and staff on the committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol and U.S. Capitol and D.C. Metropolitan police officers who testified before that committee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 02:59:17 No.1375904 Report

Quoted By: >>1375924 >>1376004

>>1375834
No, weed possession is materially a crime, or at least was at the time those people were convicted. The Jan 6 protestors were just American taxpayers entering a building they paid for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 03:34:11 No.1375924 Report

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>>1375904
you're a faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 04:56:35 No.1376000 Report

Quoted By: >>1376002

>>1375834
>pardons his criminal son after he's found guilty, a military traitor, and the guy responsible for the draconian COVID lockdowns and restrictions
>DURRRRR DRUMPF IZ WURSE ORANGE MAN BAD DURRRRRR
Suck a cock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 04:59:41 No.1376002 Report

Quoted By: >>1376037

>>1376000
how many felonies does trump have again? remind us of your double standard anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 05:02:48 No.1376004 Report

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>>1375904
>Just ignore the assaulted police, theft, breaking and entering, threats...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 06:32:38 No.1376037 Report

Quoted By: >>1376038

>>1376002
You mean misdemeanors that got transformed into felonies thanks to the same lawfare that democrats are afraid Trump will use, hence Biden's pardons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 06:36:18 No.1376038 Report

Quoted By: >>1376039

>>1376037
thanks for proving you have no consistency or accountability

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 06:40:30 No.1376039 Report

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>>1376038
Yeah talk more about double-standards faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 08:47:07 No.1376045 Report

Quoted By: >>1376063

>>1375597
>a potential illegal order

lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 09:58:04 No.1376050 Report

Quoted By: >>1376063

>>1375597
>illegal order
A military leader undermining his commander in chief, in service to a foreign adversary, is pretty close to a literal coup.

There's nothing to suggest that Trump was going to go to war with China. But a general letting China know that one of Trump's military advisors was going to disobey him if called to action put the United States at risk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 14:34:12 No.1376063 Report

Quoted By: >>1376081

>>1376045
>>1376050
If there is no legal scenario where a strike on China would be justified, then a random strike that would start WW3 would absolutely be considered illegal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 15:11:50 No.1376081 Report

Quoted By: >>1376083

>>1376063
Imagine telling Kennedy in the 60s during the Cuban Missile Crisis we can't arm the nukes in preparation to strike Russia because it's not justified. It's illegal. Shut the fuck up you traitorous cunt. I swear to fucking god I can't describe what I want to do to you without catching a ban.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 15:14:42 No.1376083 Report

Quoted By: >>1376085

>>1376081
Cuban missile crisis had justifiable military incursion reasons. Unless China was actively doing military action against us, any order to strike them would be considered an illegal order under the department of defense' laws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 15:18:03 No.1376085 Report

Quoted By: >>1376087

>>1376083
>any order to strike them would be considered an illegal order under the department of defense' laws
Oh really? Cite the fucking law then faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 15:22:53 No.1376087 Report

Quoted By: >>1376089 >>1376090 >>1376094

>>1376085
Uniform Code of Military Justice articles 90 and 92 both cover the consequences for disobeying an order, and both say it only applies to lawful orders. A solider of any rank and any level is allowed to disobey an unlawful order.

Declaring WW3 out of the blue would be considered an unlawful order.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 15:24:56 No.1376089 Report

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>>1376087
>Declaring WW3 out of the blue would be considered an unlawful order.
Declaring war is done by Congress tho. And by definition it's legal in Congress declares war.

Are you talking about the president ordering a military strike? That would not be illegal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 15:26:17 No.1376090 Report

Quoted By: >>1377564

>>1376087
>Declaring WW3 out of the blue would be considered an unlawful order.
How? Explain how Milley would know better than the president and legally could tell him (or her) no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 15:29:39 No.1376094 Report

Quoted By: >>1376102

>>1376087
Funny how you're bringing up the UCMJ with all the articles Milley has violated during his time under Trump: Articles 103, 89, 87, 92, 88, 94, 131, 103, 107, just to name a few. I don't fucking see you saying shit about the legality of having an insubordinate general, you fucking faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 15:49:43 No.1376102 Report

Quoted By: >>1376123

>>1376094
>103
Not during wartime. In addition, active dialogue that includes no US state secrets is not espionage.
>89
Doesn't apply to unlawful orders and Milley never engaged in direct contempt.
>87
Is about moving with aircraft/ships/units, doesn't apply here at all.
>92
Already covered.
>88
No derogatory language used while under Trump's command.
>94
Again, only applies to lawful orders.
>131
No perjury committed.
>103
You listed it twice retard.
>107
again see 131.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 15:59:16 No.1376110 Report

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>>1375560
>Trump pardons his cronies
>Trump threatens to jail his political enemies on trumped up(heh) charges when he wins
>Biden pardons Trump's political enemies
Gee it's almost like Trump knew Dems were cowards who wouldn't do more than slap anyone on a wrist but President Biden knew Trump was a vindictive douchebag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 16:42:56 No.1376123 Report

Quoted By: >>1376135

>>1376102
>Not during wartime.
Not required.

>Doesn't apply to unlawful orders
Which Trump did not give.
>and Milley never engaged in direct contempt.
Yes he did. Several times.

>Is about moving with aircraft/ships/units, doesn't apply here at all.
Failure to report. Trump ordered him to be at locations and he refused. Again, you take no issue with such blatant insubordination.

>Already covered.
See 87.

>No derogatory language used while under Trump's command.
Telling Pelosi that Trump doesn't have the powers he clearly has is contempt.

>Again, only applies to lawful orders.
And again, Trump didn't give an unlawful order. Therefore insubordination.

>No perjury committed.
Lying to the House Armed Service Committee over the Afghanistan evacuation, over troop counts, communications with Biden, readiness of Afghan military, equipment on bases, withdrawal timelines, undermining the chain of command, etc.

>You listed it twice retard.
Sorry it's hard to keep track of all the fucking laws he broke, that you don't give a fuck about because orange man bad.

>again see 131.
Again see HASC report.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 17:36:29 No.1376135 Report

Quoted By: >>1376137

>>1376123
>Which Trump did not give.
If Trump didn't give any orders at all then he didn't disobey shit.

>Trump ordered him to be at locations and he refused
>Telling Pelosi that Trump doesn't have the powers he clearly has is contempt.
>Lying to the House Armed Service Committee over the Afghanistan evacuation, over troop counts, communications with Biden, readiness of Afghan military, equipment on bases, withdrawal timelines, undermining the chain of command, etc.
Source on these?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 17:47:35 No.1376137 Report

Quoted By: >>1376142

>>1376135
>If Trump didn't give any orders at all then he didn't disobey shit.
And yet Milley still maneuvered to remove Trump's ability to use nukes, even though Trump never said he would nuke anyone. So this general is disarming the president and usurping his authority without a justified reason, correct? Yes or no, answer the fucking question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 18:20:59 No.1376142 Report

Quoted By: >>1376149

>>1376137
Did he actually take away Trump's ability to use the nuclear button? No? Then shut up. All he did was use his position to assure China our own increasingly unstable leader wasn't going to randomly start WW3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 18:34:53 No.1376149 Report

Quoted By: >>1376152 >>1376154

>>1376142
>Did he actually take away Trump's ability to use the nuclear button? No?
Yeah.
>Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley took steps to prevent then-President Donald Trump from misusing the country's nuclear arsenal during the last month of his presidency, according to a new book by The Washington Post's Bob Woodward and Robert Costa obtained by NBC News.

So you need to shut the fuck up. Then un-shut the fuck up and ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION NIGGER and then shut back the fuck up and kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 18:44:08 No.1376152 Report

Quoted By: >>1376155

>>1376149
Did he fucking take the ability away, or did he just ensure that Trump couldn't give illegal orders?

If Trump could have still given the order in a lawful scenario, he didn't take away shit. And him being unable to give the order in an unlawful scenario is Milley's duty to enforce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 18:54:28 No.1376154 Report

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>>1376149
chuds angry that their orange retard couldn't start a nuclear war because adults hid it away
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 18:55:05 No.1376155 Report

Quoted By: >>1376157

>>1376152
>Did he fucking take the ability away
Yes.
>And him being unable to give the order in an unlawful scenario is Milley's duty to enforce.
Fucking wrong. He wasn't even in the god damn chain of command for a nuke launch you dumb nigger.
>That account is of far more concern to some former officials who spoke to CNN on the condition of anonymity and outside analysts, who see it as the chairman of the joint chiefs – whose role by statute is advisory, not a command authority – inserting himself inappropriately into the chain of command.

Talking with you is a waste of my god damn time, but I'm going to try one more angle just for shits and giggles, and to prove how much of a TDS faggot shill you are: When Biden ordered the evacuation of Afghanistan, Milley was against that (like he was against Trump) and leaked to the press that Biden was acting against his advice and that he'll be responsible for terrorist attacks in the U.S. Is this insubordination? Yes or no?

Or don't bother because it's another simple yes or no question that you can't answer because it shows how much of a retarded faggot you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 18:57:47 No.1376157 Report

Quoted By: >>1376160 >>1376161

>>1376155
I bet you think whistleblowers should be prosecuted too you fucking bootlicker.

Also, unless Milley literally physically stopped Trump from having any access to nuclear codes, then no, he didn't take any ability away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 19:00:16 No.1376160 Report

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>>1376157
The shill is also ignoring that, since Milley was criticizing democrats, he had 100% support from Republican toads and propaganda so they all clearly didn't think it was insubordination at that time.
Of course, its convenient for the shills argument to pretend it wasn't, so the selective memory kicks in and they're feigning outrage now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 19:01:29 No.1376161 Report

Quoted By: >>1376162

>>1376157
That's what I thought. You can't answer any questions because it blows up your narrative. I'm done with you, trash. Fuck off back to plebbit where you belong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 19:03:35 No.1376162 Report

Quoted By: >>1376325

>>1376161
In case you couldn't assume, I don't think any criticism of the leadership is insubordination, bootlicker.

Likewise, your inability to explain how Milley trying to prevent the start of ww3 and smooth tensions with China is somehow equivalent to Trump being cutoff from any lawful nuclear launch authorizations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 19:57:22 No.1376178 Report

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>>1375477
The pettiness wars begun they have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 20:23:44 No.1376187 Report

Quoted By: >>1376188

>>1375672
It's also worth mentioning that accepting a pardon is also a legal admission of guilt, and that pardons must be introduced in court proceedings. So how someone is supposed to admit to guilt of an undiscovered crime that they’re not in court for is unclear. It will be interesting to see who actually accepts Biden’s pardons, since it’s admitting to crimes against the US. I can expect his family, low level staffers and sycophants to take the pardon, because what have they got to loose? But for someone like General Milley to accept the pardon and to admit to guilt to everything, that’s a serious decision he has to make. He can take it and avoid criminal charges, but he will still be dishonored get discharged and possibly loose his pension. Or he can not take the pardon and defend his actions of subverting the chain of command to communicate with China, which is a big risk too. Sounds like he’s screwed either way.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 20:24:23 No.1376188 Report

Quoted By: >>1376189

>>1376187
>It's also worth mentioning that accepting a pardon is also a legal admission of guilt
No it isn't lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 20:27:11 No.1376189 Report

Quoted By: >>1376191

>>1376188
According to the supreme court case Burdick v US it is, you fucking midwit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 20:29:51 No.1376191 Report

Quoted By: >>1376202

>>1376189
Lorance v. Commandant, USDB says otherwise. The only thing Burdick gives is the ability to refuse the pardon on the grounds it may APPEAR as an admission of guilt.

Lorance v. Commandant, USDB specifically says acceptance of a pardon does not constitute admission of guilt.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 20:30:33 No.1376192 Report

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Well I mean logically you can't be pardoned for a crime you didn't commit. I suppose these very broad pre-emptive immunity orders should be called "exemptions from prosecution" but that phrasing doesn't scan so well with the electorate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 20:39:04 No.1376202 Report

Quoted By: >>1376208

>>1376191
That decision came from the lower 10th circuit court, does a lower court’s decision override the supreme court’s? Not likely. At the end of the day it will depend on how this gets adjudicated, or if there’s a will to adjudicate it at all. But the supreme court’s decision stands until then.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 20:43:42 No.1376208 Report

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>>1376202
Burdick doesn't determine guilt retard. It only concedes the idea that acceptance of a pardon may lead to the appearance of guilt. There is no supreme court ruling on if it works as an admission of guilt, so until there is we have to go off of the lower court ruling, which is Lorance, which says acceptance of a pardon is not admission of guilt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 20:44:04 No.1376209 Report

Quoted By: >>1376240 >>1376241

What's your 'win' here? You shitpost things that are wrong in this thread, you double down on being patently wrong over and over, and then.....? What's in it for you? You cannot make me mad, if that's your goal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 20:51:04 No.1376216 Report

Quoted By: >>1376240 >>1376241

is it just to keep going long enough for people to give up talking to you, so then you can say to yourself "well that's a win by technicality", and add it to the scoreboard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 21:19:02 No.1376240 Report

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>>1376209
>>1376216
Anon "pardons are not an admission of guilt" is objectively correct though. Until the supreme court does deliver a proper ruling, there's only the lower court ruling on Lorance v. Commandant, which clearly states accepting a pardon is not an admission of guilt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jan 2025 21:29:57 No.1376241 Report

Quoted By:

>>1376209
>>1376216
Get used to it, because you’ve got four more years of this to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2025 03:26:59 No.1376325 Report

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>>1376162
>In case you couldn't assume, I don't think any criticism of the leadership is insubordination, bootlicker.
Unfortunately for you, the military disagrees. See Generals Mitchell and MacArthur for more details.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2025 19:35:33 No.1376429 Report

Quoted By: >>1376475

>>1375477
Literally the worst president we've ever had. What an absolute crook.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2025 22:16:05 No.1376475 Report

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>>1376429
This. 8064 pardons in one term, but everyone wants to cry ORANGE MAN BAD. Hypocrites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 17:23:06 No.1377254 Report

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How the fuck does a blanket "pre-emptive" pardon even work? Don't you need to be charged with a crime first to receive a pardon? I'd imagine this shit would be struck down by the Supreme court real fast. Fuckers acting like this shit is literally a Monopoly get out of jail free card.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 18:16:09 No.1377282 Report

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>>1375478
because they all did high treason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 18:56:55 No.1377564 Report

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>>1376090
Well for one, trump is a fucking blithering retard, so nearly everyone who has a track record of not being a retard would know nearly everything better than trump (the retard)

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