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GOP Establishment will not support Trump in the General

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 00:08:59 No.3032 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>3247 >>4024 >>4026 >>4483 >>6084,1

> Although Donald Trump has signed a pledge to support the Republican Party’s nominee, that doesn’t mean the party’s establishment will support him, should he win the GOP presidential nod.

> A report by the Hill suggests the big money Republican donors are actually looking to support Hillary Clinton for commander in chief if Trump is at the top of the GOP ticket. Yes, the Democrat Hillary Clinton could be getting millions of dollars from Republicans.

> The website says: “In conversations over the past month, GOP establishment donors have confided to the Hill that for the first time in recent memory, they find themselves contemplating not supporting a Republican nominee for president.”

http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/gop-establishment-to-back-hillary-if-trump-nominee/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 03:00:29 No.3159 Report

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>>3114
Should young men do it?

When they've been in office long enough to function effectively and understand the system well - do we get rid of them?
Why back a young man, inherently inexperienced, over a proven old man?

....
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running the world

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 05:33:48 No.3242 Report

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>>3114
.....and send the kids to fight the "wars".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 05:45:10 No.3247 Report

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>>3032

>trump
>needing donations

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 05:47:26 No.3249 Report

Quoted By: >>4001

>>3138
>it's almost certainly game over for the party.
I disagree, I think it will be game over for the neocons currently in charge, but not for the party as a whole. The Tea Party has become the defacto 'other' party to usurp the GOP in all but name anyway vs democrats in a two party sysetm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 05:58:17 No.3252 Report

Quoted By: >>3260 >>3261 >>4195 >>4236

>>3061
>not supporting Rand Paul
>not supporting the constitution
>supporting a neocon thats a dime a dozen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 06:29:13 No.3260 Report

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>>3252
Randlets are so cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 06:31:52 No.3261 Report

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>>3252
>people think Paul has any chance at all
>implying he's not in it just to suck up a few millions like his dad did and pocket it after the race

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 06:57:35 No.3270 Report

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The sooner establishment politics dies the better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 07:01:30 No.3271 Report

Quoted By: >>3278

What do you guys think the odds are of Trump either starting/forcing a fracturing of the GOP into the old-school republicans and the tea party?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 07:01:35 No.3272 Report

Quoted By: >>3273 >>3279 >>4304

>>3061
this isnt about who has the biggest balls.
Its about geopolitics. Defending national interests and maintaining good relations with allies.

The president of the USA isnt about who can best rule the US. Its about who can best rule the world and defend the interests of the elite.

You see the strongest thing about the US is its foreign policy. It made it strong. Without a good foreign policy the US Dollar will get devalued by China and Russia.
Then the military and entire economy of the US will crumble.

Now you might say... Who gives a fuck?! Trump will bomb everyone to shit. Boots on the ground!
See thats why Hillary Clinton is better as president to serve the interest of the elite.
First of all Hillary is more popular with foreign countries. So this will instantly boost trust.
Also Hillary, like Obama knows that the best ways to fight war is to fund terrorists like ISIS to wage a proxy war, destabilize the country and then replace that government with a more pro-US alligned regime. The most important here is to pretend you serve the interests of the people so that they dont revolt. Trump has this going against him since basically everyone already knows he doesnt care much about the people. This is also the reason why Mitt Romney did not win.
Obama was in the public eye seen as a grassroots guy, (even tough his entire campaign was funded by the banks of america.)
This grassroots image made sure he was more popular with the muslims and left so he could start the drone wars without much resistance.

>Continues

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 07:02:36 No.3273 Report

Quoted By: >>3336 >>4304

>>3272
So now in the end you might be wondering why is foreign policy so important?
Its quite simple really: Resources.
The US relies on cheap labor and metals from China and India, oil from the middle east, diamonds and gold from Africa, minerals from Pakistan, Afghanistan, and India, plant oil and exotic foods from South America and Oceania.

Its not really about freedom or human rights or the interests of foreign countries. Its about protecting resources.

Fun fact:
Largest exporter of weapons: USA
Largest importer of weapons: Saudi Arabia

Largest exporter of oil: Saudi Arabia
Largest importer of oil: USA

Also this. All presidents are merely sockpuppets that the elite can hide behind and dispose when things go wrong. (e.g. major civil unrest)
>>3090

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 07:11:28 No.3278 Report

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>>3271
It depends entirely on how hard the establishment plans to fight him. Either way, things are going to change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 07:15:56 No.3279 Report

Quoted By: >>3280 >>3388

>>3272
Trump would be a great foreign relations president since everyone that's met him in person seems to have nothing but great things to say about him, and he already knows a ton of the heads of state from his business deals.

Contrast him with the charisma toilet that is Hillary Clinton and it's a clear choice. Also, Obama is horrible at foreign relations, so we have nowhere to go but up right now, and the world is clearly signalling that they want a strong American leader right now, which is Trump.

>The most important here is to pretend you serve the interests of the people so that they dont revolt. Trump has this going against him since basically everyone already knows he doesnt care much about the people

Literally what am I reading right now? 99% of Trump's policies are all about helping middle and lower class America, which is nearly the dictionary definition of "the people".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 07:21:23 No.3280 Report

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>>3279
I don't Trump has much interest in foreign policy much less actually becoming president. If anything can be taken from the recent headlines he's been making, it's that he clearly values the publicity more than securing an actual nomination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 09:38:11 No.3336 Report

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>>3273
God bless the American Empire

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 09:43:19 No.3342 Report

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>>3061
This, the man might have some retarded ideas but he gets shit done. Like Putin, except.... Retarded. But Fuck it, I'll take retard Putin over Clinton any day

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 11:51:31 No.3388 Report

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>>3279
You dont get it do you?

>the world is clearly signalling that they want a strong American leader right now.
Its the complete opposite. The rest of the world is a slave to the USA.
Thats why China, Russia, Iran, Venezuala are literally trying to destroy the value of the dollar.

If the world needed a world leader wouldn't it be logical that all people in the world are able to choose that leader instead of just US citizens?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 11:59:50 No.3390 Report

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Can't stump won't stump, everything you just described is music to my ears

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 08:08:16 No.4001 Report

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>>3249
The Tea Party is just a phase. This centuries Populist party, they'll fade out just like the others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 09:20:03 No.4024 Report

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>>3032

"You're Fired!" -Donald Trump addressing the GOP. lol

Sage

Sage Tue 01 Dec 2015 10:07:15 No.4026 Report

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>>3032
Republican party as we know it needs to die anyway. Its simply the more corporate, less welfare side of the same coin as the democratic party. Need a two party system tbh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 19:13:37 No.4195 Report

Quoted By: >>4197

>>3252
Rand Paul sold out. He backtracked on religious liberty and foreign intervention to try and court the mainstream GOP base. It failed, and now he has absolutely nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 19:26:24 No.4197 Report

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>>4195
He was destined to sell out and will never hold a candlestick to daddy...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 20:55:44 No.4236 Report

Quoted By: >>4240 >>4297

>>3252
>rand
>not being the knock off version of his dad
>implying rand shouldn't make a huge campaign to get his dad elected
The only man with balls of steel to have ever gone into congress and always kept the line. Guess why FOX News more than once fail to mention he was even running last time he was gaining trump numbers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 21:01:30 No.4240 Report

Quoted By: >>4244

>>4236
> Rand Paul
> ever having Trump numbers this election
Hardly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 21:08:58 No.4244 Report

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>>4240
>having this level of reading comprehension
I know the liberal left have a tendency to only read what suits what they are already thinking but jesus christ, nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 22:28:37 No.4271 Report

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2016 will be Rubio v Clinton

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 22:55:12 No.4290 Report

Quoted By: >>4299

This is old news. There is so little earnest loyalty to the Republican party that, if this were to happen, the Republican party would cease to exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 23:21:35 No.4296 Report

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>>3280
90% of foreign policy is just getting along with people and not capitulating to their bullshit, dude. That's basically been his job for 50 years, and he's one of the most successful guys in the world at just that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 23:24:08 No.4297 Report

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>>4236
>FOX News more than once fail to mention he was even running last time he was gaining trump numbers?
I think this is where a lot of Trump's support comes from tbh. I assume a lot of Paul supporters felt really burned by the GOP, so they're now backing the guy that nobody can ignore, because fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 23:29:33 No.4299 Report

Quoted By: >>4308

>>4290
Why should you be loyal to a party rather than a political ideal?
Parties can change. Sticking with a doctrine that doesn't fit you is just dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 23:37:58 No.4304 Report

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>>3272
>>3273

great post

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 23:45:42 No.4308 Report

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>>4299
It's absolutely the right thing to do, and that's another reason the Republicans should be afraid. Trump is either going to destroy them or recreate them, only cucks or actually-evil neocons have any kinship with the Republican party. The silent majority no longer respect the Party, and the big money of the Republican party think they can do what they want despite that. They have to be proven wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 00:54:14 No.4331 Report

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>>3061
>blindly voting along party lines
yeah that's the smart way to do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 01:53:27 No.4356 Report

Quoted By: >>4373

I just can't support any group that gives no fucks about the whole of the Constitution. I just can't. It is the core of the country besides capitalism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 02:33:21 No.4373 Report

Quoted By: >>4374 >>4457

>>4356
The whole "it's a 200 year old document, it's 2015, for goddess sakes" idiots make my blood boil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 02:34:11 No.4374 Report

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>>4373
Sweet Jesus, this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 05:33:22 No.4457 Report

Quoted By: >>4467

>>4373
>Amendments are not set in stone, we already removed one. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 06:07:53 No.4467 Report

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>>4457
16, 19 and 26 wouldn't be missed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 07:03:55 No.4483 Report

Quoted By: >>4486

>>3032
Trump was never gonna be the Republican nominee, no matter how many pew polls he wins. He's gonna get out primaried by the career politicians like Rubio or walker. There's no way establishment republicans look at guys like that with political and in some cases executive experience and then look at trump and say "I'll take a chance with this guy with no political background". Trump is just a tea party candidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 07:08:07 No.4486 Report

Quoted By: >>4488

>>4483
Rubio is a nobody that tried to push amnesty on the country harder than nearly anyone. He's not going anywhere, and there's nobody else even somewhat plausible to rally behind.

Trump already won, and he doesn't even have any weaknesses anymore thanks to Paris.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 07:16:30 No.4488 Report

Quoted By: >>4493 >>4694

>>4486
Feel free to gloat if he wins the primary. I've seen this particular movie before, and I'm pretty sure I know how it ends.

Trump has no hope of winning the general election, he's much too polarizing. Whoever pulls the strings in the Republican party should recognize that and back another, more moderate and experienced horse. If they don't, the Republicans lose the general election guaranteed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 07:24:19 No.4493 Report

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>>4488
Trump can easily win the general because his base not only consists of the same people that didn't come out to vote last time, but also the main base of the Democrats: blue collar workers.

He just has to push a few percentage of them to vote for him and he wins, and don't get me started on the black or the youth vote, because if you think either of those groups are showing up to champion Hillary like they did Obama then I have a bridge to sell you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 19:00:56 No.4684 Report

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>>3064
If Rand Paul wasn't such an idiot on gay marriage and abortion, I would be happy with Rand, but holy shit Cruz looking good by comparison to anyone is not a good thing.

>>3081
I'd rather vote for Romney than these people. At least I know he's really a political moderate BSing his conservative credentials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 19:22:05 No.4694 Report

Quoted By: >>6072 >>6079

>>4488
As a democrat... Trump, or anyone, could beat Hillary. She's pushing feminism way too hard and doesn't realize that even a lot of Democrats are against it. She's pushing males away more than she's attracting women. A lot of Republicans and moderates hate Trump... But at least as many Democrats hate Clinton. Every week she says something that pushes male voters further and further away. I don't want trump to be president but even as a liberal I'm sick of feminism and Clinton's sexist attitude. I probably won't vote for either, if ever there were a year for a third party to make waves this would be it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 07:57:24 No.6072 Report

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>>4694
BERNIEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 08:32:48 No.6079 Report

Quoted By: >>6082

>>4694
Why bother getting a 3rd party going in the 11th hour when you can just hijack one of the established parties like Trump is doing.

Seems to be working out pretty well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 08:48:05 No.6082 Report

Quoted By: >>6084

>>6079
Because having only 2 options is really not a good thing for a democracy. You are basically always voting for the lesser evil rather than what you really want. The two parties have also made America believe that there are basically only two political directions, conservative and liberal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 08:50:05 No.6084 Report

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>>6082
Political parties in general are cancer, but good luck clearing up that logjam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 05:38:37 No.6084,1 Report Delete

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>>3032
Just imagine had the GOP actually follow through with this and kept the clown from getting the office, we wouldn't have had 200,000 Americans dead and the worst economy since the great depression.

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