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Sabrina Tavernise
From The New York Times, I’m Sabrina Tavernise. This is The Daily.
Today: The Supreme Court heard arguments in the first major gun case in more than a decade. I talk to my colleague, Adam Liptak, about how the justices might rule, and what that will mean for guns in America. Plus, the trillion dollar infrastructure bill has finally passed.
It’s Monday, November 8.
Adam, it’s nice to see you.
Adam Liptak
And you!
Sabrina Tavernise
So Adam, tell me what the basic facts are of this case.
Adam Liptak
So two men in upstate New York wanted to get licenses to carry handguns most anywhere. Robert Nash and Brandon Koch applied for a license. And they were told, yes, you can have licenses to do target practice and go hunting, and one of them was allowed to carry a gun to and from work, but they were denied the right to have a handgun anywhere — and they sued. And they said that violated the Second Amendment.
Sabrina Tavernise
Why were they denied? How does the law actually work in New York?
Adam Liptak
New York, like about seven states, requires you to demonstrate a proper cause to carry a gun.
Sabrina Tavernise
What does proper cause mean?
Adam Liptak
Well, that’s an open question. Proper cause means you have a better reason than the average citizen. Maybe you work in the diamond district, and you’re carrying goods back and forth. But if you just want a gun as a general matter for self-defense, for no particular threat but in a dangerous world, New York will generally turn you down. New York will say, no, you don’t have a good enough reason. You don’t have a special reason. You don’t have an atypical reason. And that system of licensing guns for public carry is not unusual. California has it. Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island — about a quarter of the population of the U.S. And of course, some of these places have big, big urban areas.
