Many long-covid symptoms linger even after two years, new study shows
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/08/21/long-covid-lingering-effects-two-years-later/ By Amy Goldstein
August 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. EDT
People who endured even mild cases of covid-19 are at heightened risk two years later for lung problems, fatigue, diabetes and certain other health problems typical of long covid, according to a new study that casts fresh light on the virus’s true toll.
The analysis, published Monday in the journal Nature Medicine, is believed to be the first to document the extent to which an array of aftereffects that patients can develop — as part of the sometimes debilitating syndrome known as long covid — linger beyond the initial months or year after they survived a coronavirus infection.
According to the findings, patients who suffered bouts of covid severe enough to put them in the hospital are especially vulnerable to persistent health problems and death two years after they were first infected. But people with mild or moderate cases are not spared from the consequences when compared with those who never had covid, showing an elevated risk of two dozen medical conditions included in the analysis.
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>chronically out of shape people remain out of shape after the flu Shocker. Maybe another free krispy kreme donut after another booster will fix it.
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>>1206368 It can't be my shocking obesity and sedentary lifestyle that's responsible for my health issues, it's the vaccine!
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The study highlights the burden that continues to confront millions of people in the United States and the nation’s health-care system even though the federal government canceled the coronavirus public health emergency three months ago and the World Health Organization has declared the pandemic no longer a public health emergency of international concern. “A lot of people think, ‘I got covid, I got over it and I’m fine,’ and it’s a nothingburger for them. But that’s not everything,” said the study’s senior author, Ziyad Al-Aly, a clinical epidemiologist at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. After a couple of years, “maybe you’ve forgotten about the SARS-CoV-2 infection … but covid did not forget about you. It’s still wreaking havoc in your body,” said Al-Aly, chief of research at the Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care System. Long covid remains a murky syndrome. Investigators participating in a growing body of research define it by different symptoms and different time frames, and some clinicians still do not always regard patients’ complaints as a serious phenomenon. According to Al-Aly, just two other known studies have used two-year time horizons, but they focused on a narrow group of symptoms, such as effects on the nervous system. Estimates vary of how many people go on to suffer significant aftereffects. One analysis of nearly 5 million U.S. patients who had covid, based on a collaboration between The Washington Post and electronic health records company Epic, found that about 7 percent of those patients sought care for long-covid symptoms within six months of their acute illness. At the time, about 200 million people in the United States were known to have had covid, according to federal estimates, so that percentage translated into about 15 million with symptoms typical of long covid.
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>>1206370 It's both actually, enjoy your myocarditis
>>1206371 You can stop, no one cares about Covid except for diabetic boomers
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The new study is based on electronic medical records from VA databases of nearly 139,000 military veterans diagnosed with covid early in the pandemic, from March 2020 through the end of that year. They were compared with a group of nearly 6 million veterans not known to be infected with covid during that time. Both groups were tracked every six months to the two-year mark, looking at whether those who had been infected had higher rates of about 80 conditions typical of long covid. The study also looked at hospitalizations and deaths. For the relatively small share of covid survivors who had been hospitalized, they had a heightened risk two years later of death, subsequent hospitalization and two-thirds of the medical conditions included in the analysis. Among those conditions: cardiovascular issues, blood clotting trouble, diabetes, gastrointestinal problems and kidney disorders. The survivors and the uninfected had started out in similar health, Al-Aly said, so the findings suggest the virus actually produced the heightened risk of lingering medical problems. For the bulk of covid survivors in the study with milder cases, their long-term risks were less but not entirely gone. By six months after having tested positive, they were no more likely to die than people uninfected by covid. And their elevated risk had virtually disappeared by then for two-thirds of the conditions measured in the study, though they still displayed greater odds after two years of medical problems involving some organ systems, including cardiovascular and gastrointestinal trouble and blood clotting, along with diabetes, fatigue and lung issues.
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Francesca Beaudoin, an emergency room physician and clinical epidemiologist who directs Brown University’s long-covid initiative, said the findings “capture what we are hearing at the narrative level from patients — that … the systems [affected after recovery from covid’s acute phase] are varied, that it results in loss of quality of life, loss of work and school.” Beaudoin said patients send her updates, reporting they still cannot walk one block without becoming worn out. The study’s good news is that some people with milder covid cases do have fewer aftereffects over time, said Eric Topol, the director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, who has been immersed in coronavirus research. But he said, “you don’t see a lot of optimism in these data. It’s basically a continuation of what we see at one year.” The Nature Medicine paper noted that the covid survivors tracked in the analysis are not entirely representative of who is most likely to develop long covid. Because the patients in the study are veterans, the group is older than typical, and 9 out of 10 are men, while women account for more than half of long-covid patients in the general population. Topol pointed out that because the study included only patients infected in 2020 — which allowed a two-year time span to follow them — they had the virus before coronavirus vaccines were widely available and before antiviral treatments such as Paxlovid had been developed. That also was a period before people tended to have built up immune defenses from one or more coronavirus infections.
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“The whole landscape has evolved,” Topol said. Compared with people infected later in the pandemic, those in the study were “a defenseless population.” Al-Aly said he and co-authors are working on a three-year analysis and plan to assess the same patients five years and a decade after they first developed covid. “Obviously, we can’t predict the future,” said Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at the Yale School of Medicine who researches long covid. But she noted that omicron — a coronavirus variant that has spawned subvariants and dominated since late 2021 — is known to cause long covid. “We would expect some sort of parallel” with the study’s findings, she said. “It’s not a different virus, even though it’s a variant.” Covid is not the only viral outbreak that has produced long-term aftereffects. Topol noted that people who survived the 1918 influenza pandemic had an elevated risk of developing Parkinson’s disease years later, while some people who had polio in the first half of the 20th century developed a constellation of symptoms known as post-polio syndrome decades afterward. The study was funded by the Department of Veterans Affairs. It was not part of a $1.2 billion long-covid initiative of the National Institutes of Health called RECOVER, which patient advocates and some researchers wish had produced treatments in the two years since it began. Slightly more than 1 million people in the United States have died of covid, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The WHO reports more than 103 million confirmed cases in this country.
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>>1206376 >Slightly more than 1 million people in the United States have died of covid, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The WHO reports more than 103 million confirmed cases in this country. Literally a sub 1% death rate
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>>1206382 Good thing there was a strong vaccination program and lockdowns to enable that sub 1% death rate.
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>>1206392 >highest deaths in lockdown heavy states >majority of covid hospitalizations are vaccinated Uh huh
How's your myocarditis?
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>>1206397 Democrats are too busy violating the geneva convention
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>>1206367 you mean the side effects from the vax?
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>>1206367 >People who endured even mild cases of covid-19 are at heightened risk two years later for lung problems, fatigue, diabetes and certain other health problems Gee whiz, I had all of these thing even before I got covid in jan/22.
I think the 4 jabs i got kept long covid away
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>>1206406 >Gee whiz, I had all of these thing even before I got covid in jan/22. Whats your BMI
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All posters here are shills to distract from the fact that Covid is a genetic bioweapon. /thread
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Yay, the election virus is back just in time for the election.
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What's it called when you make yourself sick through paranoia, and hysterics over a long period of time?
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>>1206367 >Many long-covid symptoms linger even after two years, new study shows and? so what?
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>>1206412 Oy vey who would of guessed
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Why does the right get so schizo over Covid articles?
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>>1206392 Didn’t areas either 0 vaccinations or low vaccinations have significantly less deaths than those that over vaccinated? Lol. Lmao, even
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>>1206411 This. Chinese shills go into a frenzy when you point out the entire world knows they created it.
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>>1206469 “One Of The World's Poorest Countries Has One Of The World's Lowest COVID Death Rates”
>Haiti's success is not due to some innovative intervention against the virus. Most people have given up wearing masks in public. Buses and markets are crowded. And Haiti hasn't yet administered a single COVID-19 vaccine. >Haiti has one of the lowest death rates from COVID-19 in the world From jewish and democrat cover up state affiliated media rag NPR,
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/05/04/992544022/one-of-the-worlds-poorest-countries-has-one-of-the-worlds-lowest-covid-death-rat They go on to say it was probably due to “lack of testing” but testing became far more available & nothing changed. Covid didn’t go up with more testing. Covid was a bio weapon & the vaccine was a bio weapon of itself.
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>>1206471 Less than a month later cases exploded lmao.
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>>1206476 >no citation posted Haiti still remains one of the least impacted countries to date in 2023, years later.
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>>1206367 >Long Covid >washingtonpost >Goldstein You should be banned for posting this garbage
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>>1206484 >Long Covid Makes sense why conservatives are against the vax
Get Covid > suffer brain damage > vote conservative
they change up the first item all the time, but the following two are pretty standard.
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>>1206488 So Taylor Lorenz votes republican now? All she ever talks about is having long covid, and clearly has brain damage.
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>>1206489 Did you bring that name from reddit?
I don't give a shit about your fake celebrities, faggot
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Why are conservatives STILL angry over 2020? Stomping your feet won't bring Trump back
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>>1206367 >long covid Aka vax side effects
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>>1206522 Actually it will. Trump is beating his fraudulent cases while Biden can’t control his DOJ any longer as House Republicans implode bullshit lifelong immunity plea deals with whistle blowers bringing receipts & evidence. Now more DOJ personnel are subpoena’d following the original who blew the whistle on Weissenbergstein. Now that Covid is in the media again everyone will be forced to acknowledge it came from a lab in China & covered up by Dems/MSM. And then the biggest factor going into 2024 is the economy… which imploded because of Covid spending. So the economy (the #1 factor going into 2024) imploded because of a lab leak that was covered up by Dems/MSM licking China’s boot as our current president fake indicts his opponent to damage control as we uncover more money he was collecting from his crackhead son he used as a patsy.. from many countries including but not limited to.. China. Now Maui gets a measly $700 dollars & evicted by ultra rich real estate developers as Ukraine (another country blackmailing Biden) receives $200+ billion in aid.
Democrats and progressives might be the most destructive, genocidal, & fiscally irresponsible villains to walk this planet. Separating them from power will be the greatest thing for humanity & I say this as a liberal who grew up under Bush.
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>>1206531 Don't waste your time typing out anymore fanfiction ok. It's trash
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>>1206532 Nothing I said was conjecture going forward. It is all factual things that the public has already experienced and acknowledged.
Trump will never see prison or come off the ballot. This fraudulent cases are to shape public opinion only & it’s not working.
Weissensteinowitz’s plea deal got tossed out & they are back to try again.
IRS/DOJ personnel who were colleagues of the initial IRS whistle blowers got subpoena’d by House Judicial a day or two ago. Same people who were in the room with the previous whistleblowers. The ones who brought receipts “I’m sitting here with my father” etc
Covid is back in media. Already confirmed lab leak. Already understood Covid spending ramped up inflation along with Ukraine war instability for gas markets & bullshit green new disaster initiatives.
Everything I said is a fact. That’s why you can’t counter any of it.
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>>1206535 I said stop. Your drivel makes the eyes glaze over
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>>1206536 I want to stop. That’s the thing. But I can’t till leftwing retards win an argument on this board. If a single leftwing retard would give me a real reason to shut up with facts then I would happily shut up. But left wing retards never win arguments on this board. So I have to keep posting
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>>1206539 >If a single leftwing retard would give me a real reason to shut up with facts then I would happily shut up You just rattled off like 30 conspiracies. Nobody's is taking two hours out of their day to write a 5,000 word essay debunking a gish-galloping schizo on a scandinavian hackey sack forum. Continue screaming into the void if you want. Nobody cares.
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>>1206543 >leftwing retard loses argument >left wing retard copy/pastes his favorite r*ddit zinger It’s EVERY time. Lol. Lmao, even. So leftwing retards just lose every argument on this board? I never see them win. I’m begging to be wrong but I’m just so undeniably right, since the self proclaimed group of intellectuals can’t complete a simple task. It’s impossible for them because the only way they can manage that is by lying but lying makes you a liar lol. Still doesn’t stop them from lying and gaslighting but at least everyone gets to see they are horrible low IQ troglodytes.
>>1206531 Waiting for a real response to this ^^ from a leftwing retard. Any moment now.
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>>1206549 >Rattle off 100+ unhinged conspiracies without any evidence >If you don't write a 50 page dissertation researching and debunking every single one I AM the winner This is called gish-galloping. Its boring. Nobody cares.
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>>1206550 It’s called leftwing retard loses an argument. Thank you for your concession.
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>>1206551 Conceding to a gish-galloping schizo is the most rewarding thing I've done all day. Enjoy screaming into the void, schizo.
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>>1206550 It should take less than 5 minutes to put something together with a quick source to even get your feet off the ground. You can’t even manage that. Can’t even BEGIN with anything substantial. Just pure capitulation from the get go. Thank you for conceding, again.
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>>1206552 Nta but you got btfo
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>>1206553 >It should take less than 5 minutes to put something together with a quick source to even get your feet off the ground. I'm not making the positive claim. The burden of proof isn't on me. Imagine projecting being a low IQ troglodyte so hard that you think its everyone else's job to debunk you.
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>>1206554 >Nta but you got btfo Kek nobody believes you, schizo
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>>1206554 Are you the "good post" bot?
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>>1206555 checked. good post
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>>1206555 It is your job. And you failed. Leftwing retards always fail. Everything I posted is public knowledge. There is no reaching or conjecture on my end. Just a factual list of events. When you deny reality & r*ddit post it means your manager hasn’t updated the script yet. Or it’s just impossible to damage control at this point & he’s just advising you mass reply with r*ddit quips. I appreciate you bumping a thread where you’ve been thoroughly btfo so more people can see. Classic humiliation kink most nonhuman progressives. I could never understand but hey you do you.
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>>1206563 >It is your job. And you failed. Its not anybody's job to debunk your conspiracies. Its your job to prove they're true. Do you not know what burden of proof is? Go google that then come back to us.
>There is no reaching or conjecture on my end. Just a factual list of events. Prove it
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>>1206565 Thanking you bumping again. Going to take the time to give my original post more visibility so everyone can be reminded what he’s running away from.
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>>1206569 >I'm going to make a bunch of claims >I refuse to provide evidence for any of them >I win!! I have no problem bumping this. You're a shining example of why /pol/ needs to be put on a trash barge and pushed out to sea.
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>>1206572 Did the House committees result in the plea deal evaporating?
Where did Covid come from?
What was the position of the Dems during Covid (bat soup or lab leak)?
What was COVID’s impact on the economy?
We’re more personnel recently subpoena’d by House Judicial or not?
Did the IRS whistle blowers bring evidence & receipts resulting in the plea deal gone? (They did)
Simple questions with simple answers that lead to simple conclusions. Yawn.
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>>1206579 Honestly good post. That guy won’t be able to recover.
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>>1206579 >Thinks that gish-galloping a series of questions is proof of claims >Still can't provide any evidence I can keep bumping this all day.
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>>1206581 Wow I was right. He couldn’t recover at all.
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>>1206581 >counter Gish-galloping by falsely claiming gish-galloping on obvious and undisputed simple questions that are at the forefront of political discussion today World renowned for being obtuse. Truly impressed.
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>>1206585 Provide evidence of your claims. He who makes the positive claim has the burden of proof.
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>>1206586 You don't know what gish-galloping is. You just repeated it back to me because you intuited that implied something bad. I'll ask again - provide evidence of your claims. Asking me a bunch of leading questions is not evidence.
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>>1206367 lmao /news/ is the npr of 4chan
later losers
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Dishonest leftists obliterated ITT
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Science denial over Covid is why y'all lost 2020.
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>>1206480 Hilarious when retarded conservatives post about citations. Only when it fits your narrative. You are the one posting articles from years ago, faggot.
https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/ht Anonymous
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>>1206661 Could you do me a favor and pull the statistics for Taiwan from that site and post it here? It doesn't load for me for some reason.
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>>1206659 Which science was denied?
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>>1206663 All of it. Herd immunity shit was false. Vaccines being poison and killing people was false. All of the alternative treatments for COVID like Ivermectin ended up being false. All of the shit about the vaccine making no difference was false. All of the shit about masks being ineffective was false. This isn't even including the far-right schizoid conspiracy theories like the vaccines making people magnetic or Bill Gates using it to sterilize people. All of the conspiracies about Faucci have no evidence to support them. The lab leak thing has no evidence to support it. Pretty much every prediction that came from right of center was total bullshit. It definitely helped Trump lose 2020.
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>>1206669 Shit man you're right. Don't forget to double mask and triple boost for maximum protection against dirty plague rats like us who think our "immune system" is enough.
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>>1206669 The only item you mentioned that vaguely resembles a "science" being "denied" is the fact that the vaccines were ineffective. And they were ineffective. They were promised to yield immunity which they failed to do. They were promised to prevent transmission, which they failed to do.
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>>1206671 I mean, you can meme about it, but its just a bit of the reason why your party lost and continues to lose relevance.
>>1206672 >They were promised to yield immunity which they failed to do They weren't. The vaccines were always designed to reduce symptoms and prevent serious illness and hospitalization, which they did.
>the fact that the vaccines were ineffective. And they were ineffective They weren't. Non-vaccinated people died at exponentially higher rates than the vaccinated. Objective, measurable fact. Regardless, I'm not interesting in rehashing old schizoid conspiracies with you. You dug your foot in the sand about COVID and you lost. Cope with that however you need.
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>>1206672 No science denier, vaccines are effective because I got vaxxed (came with a free jelly bean treat, yum yum!) and then when I got covid I was in bed for two days. Imagine if I didnt get the vax, I would have died!
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>>1206674 True, the Republican party doesn't cater to idiots who walk around with two masks on their face. Did you hear the news? Covid is re-surging, don't forget to get that booster you nigger cattle.
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>>1206677 >True, the Republican party doesn't cater to idiots who walk around with two masks on their face I don't know what meme you're talking about but your party is the laughing stock of the U.S.
>Did you hear the news? Covid is re-surging, don't forget to get that booster you nigger cattle. Nobody thinks about vaccines and boosters more than you people. I got mine during COVID and never thought about it again. Its the only thing you people can think about. Get a new hobby, CHUD.
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>>1206674 >They weren't. They were. That's the entire premise of a vaccine. To provide immunity. Which the covid vaccines fail to do.
> Non-vaccinated people died at exponentially higher rates than the vaccinated. There's no evidence to support this.
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>>1206679 >I don't know what meme you're talking about but your party is the laughing stock of the U.S. Democrats lost congressional seats to the laughing stock party. Guess that makes Democrats the clown party.
>Nobody thinks about vaccines and boosters more than you people. I got mine during COVID and never thought about it again. Its the only thing you people can think about. Get a new hobby, CHUD. You're on here gettin mad at us nigga. The science says the vaccine isn't effective without boosters, so get your booster with a side of french fries, it'll calm you down.
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>>1206382 yes 9/11 had a sub 1% death rate in NYC you shining beacon of intelligence
ask not for whom the bell tolls, dumbshit
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>>1206748 only 6% of that <1% were single cause covid deaths according to CDC's own data.
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>>1206751 Bro I mite be retarded but even I knew most deaths during spanish flu were pneumonia, not flu deaths.
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>>1206773 I had covid it fucking sucked. Everyone I know who had Covid it was brutal. Only idiots try to say it was no big deal.
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>>1206776 >I had covid it fucking sucked. Everyone I know who had Covid it was brutal. Whats your BMI? What's theirs?
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>>1206776 >source: trust me, bro Anonymous
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>>1206773 These are people that would've died just as easily from walking a steep incline or sitting out in the sun for too long.
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>>1206777 >>1206779 I am 36, 5’10” 160.
Most of friends who got sick were you d and healthy otherwise. Covid was shitty and wrecked me for about 8 days. Not trying to be political or saying anything about the good or bad responses to the virus. It is weird how some people seem to want to defend the virus itself. The virus did not care what you believed.
I am just telling my experience with it. Worse than any cold or flu I have ever had. I did get better and I am fine now.
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>>1206367 Guess this explains why my lungs and general capacities are still trash after being cured recently, well shit of all the people I know I was supposed to tank It well as I was healthy and I got fucked hardest can't wait for possibly up to over 2 years of this bullshit keeping up :(
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>>1206683 Science says flu vaccine has annual “boosters”. If it’s “just a flu” wouldn’t it stand to reason that COVID boosters are part and parcel? I’m spitballing here
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>>1206802 It's your fault for not taking the shots and subsequent boosters. You wouldnt have gotten sick had you actually listened to the experts.
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>>1206951 Well, influenza is the flu though.
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>>1206683 >Democrats lost congressional seats to the laughing stock party. Guess that makes Democrats the clown party. Not really. Republicans embarrassed themselves in the midterms. They under performed by literally every metric. Had they not nuked their own party with extremism they would have the senate right now.
>You're on here gettin mad at us nigga The only person mad is the one who comes here to scream about vaccines and boosters every day. It truly lives in your head rent free.
>so get your booster with a side of french fries, it'll calm you down. I already got my boosters. It took me 20 minutes in a pharmacy and I never thought about it again. You, on the other hand, spend literal hours of your life crying about it on the internet and projecting how triggered you are onto other people. Cope harder.
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>>1206968 It sounds like you're due for another boost. Stay safe anon and remember to mask up.
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>>1206367 >By Amy Goldstein into the garbage it goes
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>>1206972 >No argument I accept your concession
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>>1206982 Accept deez nuts
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>>1206982 Wow, another fake win for the fuckface. Good job, faggot.
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>>1206986 If your only response to anything I said is "Haha w-why don't you g-go boost" then I haven't won so much as you have lost.
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>>1206988 I wasn't even that other anon, homo.
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>>1206988 Nta but you were being mocked for your gullibility and poor judgment. Don't take it personally. Learn from your mistakes.
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>>1206992 >Nta but you were being mocked for your gullibility and poor judgment. Yet couldn't provide a single argument why.
>Don't take it personally. Learn from your mistakes. I don't even know what part about your autistic shrieking i'm supposed to take personally.
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>>1206579 There are 100 replies in this thread & not a single leftist dared to address it. What’s funny is none of what you stated in this post is some off-hand uncertainty. They just keep asking for sources to waste time. It’s like asking for a source that water gets you wet. Truly, left wing retards have been utterly and unequivocally blown the fuck out.
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>>1206993 The fact that you sdon't understand why you're being mocked for injecting yourself with the Trumpvax shows you have a lot of growing to do. Take it as an opportunity to learn from your mistakes.
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>>1206996 who was president when covid hit
who pretended it wasn't a big deal to the public and admitted it was dangerous in private
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>>1206999 Glad that you agreed with Trump and got the vaccine that he fast tracked.
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>>1206367 >By Amy Goldstein Anonymous
>>1206776 I have covid right now along with my 3months boy 3years old daughter, my mother and my wife.
It was a pain in the ass for one day, two days ago I was really tired, that's pretty much it.
My daughter didnt even felt a thing, my son and mother were the most afflicted but it was nothing more than a flu.
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>>1207016 My mother and wife took the vaxxes not me, no différences in our cases
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>>1206802 Lmfao. You're fucking weak and if the virus killed you and all your pussy friends we'd be better off. I had a sore throat for a day, went to work anyway and gave it to 4 other people who were also completely fine after a day. Don't imprint your frailty on society at large, you fat retard.
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>>1207015 >Amy Goldsteinbergski wants your shekels. Anonymous
>>1206999 >It’s Trumps fault China unleashed a bio weapon on the world to derail him. Interesting perspective please elaborate. >who pretended it wasn't a big deal to the public and admitted it was dangerous in private Fauci but the exact opposite. He said it came from bat soup when he knew he funded the research facility in China. His own virologists said it was engineered until he intercepted them for the narrative that we found out from FOIA’s. Also said masks work but knew they didn’t. Also said vaccines give immunity and knew they didn’t. Also said no side effects of vaccines but the spike in myocarditis says otherwise.
So you bring up and interesting point and I want to thank you for it; 100% of the blame for Covid goes to China for engineering it in a lab and 100% of the blame for the misinformation regarding Covid goes to Dems, MSM, Fauci. You did a fantastic job highlighting those facts for us here today. Thank you - I mean it!
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>>1206367 Long COVID is clearly fake. The only part that wasn't fake is people losing taste or smell and not getting it back until several weeks later.
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>>1206588 Looks like someone is very proud of discovering a new esoteric word. I'm sure we'll see this word used over and over in the next year as the favorite word liberals use to try and appear intellectual. Are you going to pull out "stochastic terrorist" too or is that now overplayed?
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>>1207019 So you infected other people and you are proud of it. You are the trash of society. You are scum and the whole of humanity would be better without your existence. Not related to Covid just in general. You bring us all down.
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>>1207073 The "gish-gallop" meme ended a decade ago, actually.
You can't easily perform the jewish feat of "gish-galloping" on the Internet where you have plenty of time to read and respond.
However, there's one jewish faggot on /news who has mastered it by breaking up whole posts into smaller chunks to create diverging subjects.
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>>1207046 You might need antipsychotics anon
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>>1207099 I'm glad it upsets you so much. Sorry but real men don't stay home for the sniffles, and my money is more important than your weak biology.
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>>1207143 No argument? Just gaslight!
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>>1207046 Conspiracy theories are fairy tales for retarded adults.
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>>1207108 >However, there's one jewish faggot on /news who has mastered it by breaking up whole posts into smaller chunks to create diverging subjects. Translation: One high IQ anon breaks down bullshit libcuck talking points bit by bit in a professional and concise manner & leftwing retards (who never win arguments on this board) simply get overwhelmed after they realize how wrong they are as well as recognize how devastating of a defeat he’s been dealt by rudimentary facts.
>Jewish faggot Look at the shill try to blend in by calling other people Jewish while pushing Jewish liberal lies and denial of reality. It’d be cute if it wasn’t so jarring.
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>>1207143 >>1207221 The Jewish denial of reality with no substantive counter arguments continues. Left wing retards never win arguments on this board. Why?
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>>1207292 The second sentence of your post is itself a denial of reality with no substantive counter argument.
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>>1207290 >Look at the shill try to blend in by calling other people Jewish while pushing Jewish liberal lies and denial of reality. It’d be cute if it wasn’t so jarring. Used to be that there was language they weren't allowed to use. That made it easy to spot them. Now they can say naughty no-no words and they think that's all it takes to blend it. It makes them stick out even more, because nobody that talks like that would defend or support the exact same talking points they were using from when they weren't allowed to post racial epithets or other such offensive language.
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>>1207292 >Left wing retards never win arguments on this board I've never lost one. Fight me with words, bitch.
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>>1207343 That's because you leftwing retards don't engage in argument or debate in order to lose one to begin with.
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>>1206367 >goldstein kek, also no refunds
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>>1206411 Nah, that's the gate you're been gatekept at. The actual truth of the matter, and I'm dead serious, is that there's no Cuntvid. You've been conned.
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>>1207436 why would i argue with some fucking cunt ?
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>>1206531 >big tl;dr keep coping chud. The orange buffoon is going to prison and Biden is going to win the election.
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Stopped reading at : Article by Amy Shekelstein
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>>1208717 You will never be a woman. Go back to r3ddit