https://abcnews.go.com/US/model-accused-trump-groping-1990s-epstein-mentioned-trump/story?id=115140529 The former Sports Illustrated swimsuit model who has accused former President Donald Trump of groping her in front of Jeffrey Epstein in the early 1990s is offering more details about what she claims she observed about Epstein's relationship with the current presidential candidate and what she says Epstein told her.
"I would say that he talked about having just seen Donald or having just done something, I mean, every time we spoke," Stacey Williams, who worked as a professional model in the 1990s, told ABC News in an interview.
Williams went public this week with an allegation that Trump groped her in front of Epstein after she said Epstein, who would later be known as a serial sex offender, brought her to Trump Tower in the early 1990s.
In her interview with ABC News, Williams said that during her several-month relationship with Epstein, who she said she met in 1992, Trump was among three people who Epstein talked to her about the most, with one of the other two being Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's longtime associate who has since been sentenced to prison for 20 years for recruiting and grooming the underage girls who Epstein sexually abused.
The third person, Williams said, was Leslie Wexner, the billionaire retail magnate who once employed Epstein to manage his fortune.
"The people he spoke about the most were his boss, or whatever that person was, Les Wexner, hard to understand that role. And then Ghislaine, again, a little ambiguous weird relationship. And then Donald Trump," Williams told ABC News. "Those are the people he spoke about the most."
The details come after Williams first publicly discussed the alleged incident in detail on a public "Survivors for Kamala" Zoom call last Monday night in support of Vice President Kamala Harris. The group is not officially affiliated with Harris' presidential campaign.
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In a statement to ABC News, Trump campaign spokesperson Karoline Leavitt, who formerly worked for Project 2025, denied Williams' allegations, stating in part, "These accusations, made by a former activist for Barack Obama and announced on a Harris campaign call two weeks before the election, are unequivocally false." Asked about the claim that Epstein spoke frequently about Trump, a Trump campaign spokesperson said, "It is widely known that President Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago Club when revelations about his sex trafficking became public." On the Zoom call, which ABC News obtained a video of, Williams, who first began speaking publicly about the alleged incident with Trump and Epstein in Facebook posts dating back to 2020, said she felt like the alleged groping incident was a "twisted game" between Trump and Epstein. "I felt so humiliated and so sick to my stomach and was so upset, and as I absorbed what happened a few minutes later, I felt like that was some sort of sick bet or game between the two of them," Williams said. "I was rolled in there like a piece of meat for some kind of challenge or twisted game, and I felt horrendous." "I figured it was time to share this and I'm ready to win this election," Williams, a longtime Democrat who has been active in politics, said on the Zoom call. "The thought of that monster being back in the White House is my absolute worst nightmare." 'It was orchestrated' Williams told ABC News the alleged encounter, when she was 24, lasted no more than ten minutes. "I was in shock and I was frozen," Williams said. "He just put his arms out and pulled me towards him and his hands on some part of my body the entire time," Williams claimed in the interview. "His hands would touch the sides of my breasts, not the front, but the sides of my breasts, my waist, and then slid down to my butt and just kept kind of running up and down my body while the two of them were carrying on a conversation."
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Speaking with ABC News, Williams explained that shortly after the alleged incident, she began to suspect that the encounter with Trump and Epstein had been "orchestrated," but went into denial about it because of the shame it made her feel. "Now there's no doubt in my mind it was orchestrated," Williams said. Not long after the alleged incident, Williams said Trump sent her a handwritten postcard featuring his Mar-a-Lago estate that read, "Stacey -- Your home away from home. Love Donald." A photo of the postcard was shared with ABC News. Two friends confirmed to ABC News in interviews that Williams told them years ago about the alleged incident with the former president. Longtime friend Allison Gutwillinger told ABC News in an interview that in 2015 Williams invited her over to her home to tell her about the alleged incident after Trump had announced his run for office. "I came over to her house. There was a postcard on the kitchen counter, with what looked like Mar-a-Lago on the cover. I turned it over, and there was a handwritten note signed 'Love Donald,'" Gutwillinger said. "She then told me he groped her in Trump Tower." 'Not a fan of his' Trump eventually distanced himself from Epstein, who in 2019 died by suicide in prison while awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges. Authorities say that, in the early 2000s, Epstein sexually exploited and abused dozens of minor girls at his homes in New York and Florida, among other locations. In 2002, Trump told New York magazine, "I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy." "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side," Trump said at the time.
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Epstein was questioned about his relationship with Trump during a March 2010 deposition in a civil suit against Epstein filed by some of Epstein's victims. Epstein answered, "Yes, sir," when asked if he had socialized with Trump. When asked if he "ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18" Epstein replied, "Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth and 14th Amendment right, sir." By the time Epstein was charged in 2019, then-President Trump told reporters at the White House he was "not a fan of his, that I can tell you" and that he hadn't "spoken to him in 15 years." A year later, Trump wished Ghislaine Maxwell "well" after being asked by a reporter if the longtime Epstein associate should reveal the names of powerful people who were associated with the serial sex offender. "I don't know," Trump said. "I haven't really been following it too much. I just wish her well, frankly." In 2021, Maxwell was convicted on five of six counts related to the abuse and trafficking of underage girls. During Maxwell's trial, flight logs released as evidence showed that Trump was listed as a passenger on Epstein's private jets at least seven times: four times in 1993, once in 1994 and 1995, and a previously known time 1997.
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At least 18 women have accused Trump of varying degrees of inappropriate behavior, including allegations of sexual harassment or sexual assault. During Trump's first run for the White House, a 2005 video surfaced where he discussed groping women, in which Trump can be heard telling former "Access Hollywood" host Billy Bush, "When you're a star they let you do it." "I'm automatically attracted to beautiful women, I just start kissing them, it's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything," Trump said, including "grab 'em by the pussy." Trump apologized at the time after those comments were made public, saying in a video, "Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am," adding, "I said it, I was wrong, and I apologize." Trump has long vehemently denied all of the women's accusations. In some cases, he and his team members have specifically denied individual accusations, but they have also repeatedly issued blanket denials against all the allegations, calling the women liars.
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>>1356540 >A waman said Trump is... LE BAD no one cares
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>>1356546 >no one cares I do, and you do too, otherwise you wouldn't be trying to cover this up.
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>>1356540 I'M OUTRAGED!!1 HE OUGHT TO APOLOGIZE!!1
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>>1356546 This. Now watch as we get 50 more of these "Trump said X_bad_thing years ago and I'm only bringing it up now because it's an election year" stories from totally reliable (sarcasm) sources.
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>>1356546 Actually she said Jeffrey Epstein constantly referenced meeting up with him.
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>>1356574 >Actually she said Jeffrey Epstein constantly referenced meeting up with him. OK, and so does this mean Kamala is going to give me more money? I'm trying to figure out which candidate is best for ME, I don't give a shit about anything else they do.
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>>1356590 >Trump poisoned everyone's drinking water. Huh, I guess that's pretty fucked up that he did that. Do did Biden fix this or did he just say "well Trump did it so I'm gonna leave it that way"?
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>>1356590 >Trump poisoned everyone's drinking water. Huh, I guess that's pretty fucked up that he did that. So did Biden fix this or did he just say "well Trump did it so I'm gonna leave it that way"?
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>>1356593 Why as a matter of fact, Trump's Supreme Court justices ruled in their overturning of the Chevron decision that Biden isn't allowed to fix it!
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One of the best supreme court decisions in modern times.
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>>1356601 > Why as a matter of fact, Trump's Supreme Court justices ruled in their overturning of the Chevron decision that Biden isn't allowed to fix it! So you mean no matter who I vote for the water won’t be fixed either way?
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>>1356610 If Dems control both Congress and the presidency, they can pass a law to get around the ruling. Otherwise thank Trump and GOP in Congress for your poisoned water anon!
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>>1356611 If Dems really wanted they could overturn it, they just don’t care
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>>1356617 >Just randomly overrule the Supreme Court, bro Anonymous
>>1356540 The thing about these fake stories is that no one even cares. No Trump supporter will ever care, only the core MSNBC braindead liberals will care or believe.
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Way back in good ole '02 I found myself driving down highway 70 like a bat outta hell. I was rocking out to some Nickelback. This is How You Remind Me. Fuck yeah! Couple miles go by and I see this red Mercedes on the side of the road with the flashers going. Looks like this woman was waving her arms for help. So's I pulled over to the side road behind her. Get out of the car and she tells me she's got a flat and asks for some help. Turns out it's Kamala Harris. "Holy Shit!" I would've said if I knew who she was way back when. Anyways, I figure I could do a stranded lady a solid. Changing a tire ain't nothing too difficult. She opens the trunk and I bend over to grab the jack and the spare. Well, my biggest mistake that day was not wearing a belt. I could feel fresh air cooling off my hot, sweaty behind. I was kinda embarrassed, but It was too late to pull them up at this point I already a hold of the jack with one hand and the spare with the other. Then outta nowhere POW! A sharp pain rings out right in the middle of my rear! I scream "WHAT IN THE FUCK!" Drop the jack on my toe and the spare in the trunk. Turns out Kamala Harris shoved no less than three of her fingers directly into my butthole. I back away slowly and Kamala just stood there staring at me. She starting smelling her fingers with a look of euphoria on her face. Then, and you ain't even gonna believe this, she started licking her fingers like she had melted Hershey's chocolate on them. I finally got back to my car after what seemed like an eternity. Started driving as fast I could. Kamala made no attempt to chase. She went back to waving her arms as I left with the flashers still going as if nothing had happened. I took a second to assess the situation. I thought to myself "The tire didn't even look flat". "Was this a trap?" "This was a trap." To this very day I wonder how many other hapless men tried to help that lady and ended up being worn like a glove.
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>>1356641 One more thing I forgot to mention. As she rammed her fingers in my virgin butthole she shouted "I fucking love Adolf Hitler!" At the top of her lungs
Craziest shit that ever happened to me.
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>>1356617 Sam's coulda codified R vs W.
>>1356623 I was an undecided but now I'm know who I'm gonna vote for after hearing this.
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>>1356563 Anon, if I groped your greasy cock and balls without consent would you really want to go scream it to the world the instant it happened?
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>>1356653 Are you a femboy? If not I'd go to the cops immediately you crazy tranny.
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>>1356618 Happens all the time
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>>1356654 Yes and also I'm your boss in this case, so if you come out and say anything I'll destroy your career.
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>>1356601 Chevron overturn just means agencies actually have to justify the scope of their powers in court. Should be a slam dunk for them if the law is actually on their side.
Pre-overturning Chevron the agencies could say anything and short of a specific case by case SCOTUS overturning, they were untouchable. Hence situations like the CDC claiming it had power over rent payments, or in the Fishery case where the law said the fishery funded inspectors with something like 2% of their profits but then the agency in charge unilaterally upped it to like 20%.
Unless you think people should have no recourse for things like that
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>>1356618 Lmao. The Chevron overturning specifically puts the onus back to Congress to write laws more betterer. Yes, Congress can pass new and additional laws in the matter. SCOTUS actually welcomed that in their brief
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>>1356665 Could you explain why you failed civics class to the point you believe the Vice President controls Congress?
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>>1356590 whenever I see a post like this, I get really suspicious. The linked articles always ends up being sensationalist reporting about "The Green New Deal", Some bureaucratic tomfoolery within the Governmental organization, or some sort of Democrat-pushed Pork Barrel bill that's filled Congressional pay raises and money earmarked for nonsensical shit.
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>>1356934 you're not american, don't worry about it
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>>1356653 Yeah because I would be telling everyone how I knocked this faggot the fuck out for grabbing my cock and balls, and then took him to court for sexual assault. Win win.
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>>1356658 >Yes and also I'm your boss in this case Oh even better! I get to beat the shit out of my boss, take him to court for sexual assault, then sue the fucking company. Win win win!
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>>1356934 >whenever I see a post like this, I get really suspicious. Why? Its in the Project 2025 document to abolish the EPA and the DOE. Conservatives actively advocate to demolish government institutions that regulate safety standards so that "job creators" (multi-national corporations) can make more money. Fun fact, the EPA was founded in 1970 when a company polluted a river so badly that the entire body of water caught on fucking fire. Republicans would love for us to go back to that.
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>>1356945 >Why? Its in the Project 2025 Stopped reading right there. Now I know for sure that you're a disingenuous retard.
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>>1356947 >I refuse to read or engage with things that go against my narrative! LALALALALALAL I CANT HEAR YOU! Typical.
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>>1356945 >Why? Its in the Project 2025 document The one that Trump hasn't read and has disavowed multiple times? What next, are you going to tell me Trump said nazis were nice people at the Charlottesville protest?
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>>1356976 >The one that Trump hasn't read and has disavowed multiple times? Nothing about my argument hinges on Trump disavowing anything. For a moment lets completely ignore the fact that half of Project 2025's 300 writers have worked for Trump and the two heads of the project have in fact been seeing dining and flying with Trump so your argument that "well he disavowed it" means absolutely nothing. Conservatives in general advocate for massive rollbacks of environmental protections. Trump has personally promised to do so as recent as February. Trump's campaign slogan is "drill baby drill". Several people in his inner circle and associated with his administration have floated ideas like the ones highlighted in Project 2025 i.e. de-funding and/or completely abolishing the EPA. So, do you have any argument against anything I've said other than "uh well he said disavow"?
>What next, are you going to tell me Trump said nazis were nice people at the Charlottesville protest? Don't pivot because you don't have an argument.
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>>1356947 Way to concede the debate there bucko
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>>1356981 >So, do you have any argument against anything I've said other than "uh well he said disavow"? First off, I'm pointing out the obvious problem with your DURRR MUH 2025 argument that you people bring up every - fucking - time. What's hilarious is that we didn't hear much about 2025 until Biden fucked up his debate with Trump, and then every parrot in congress and the media kept saying
>BAWK PROJECT 2025 BAWK to every fucking sentence no matter how immaterial it is to the conversation. It's your new go-to response after racist.
Secondly, did Trump abolish the EPA at any point between 2016 - 2020? Why or why not?
>Don't pivot because you don't have an argument. Shut your cocksucking mouth, faggot. Both 2025 and Trump = Hitler are the two stances you cunts have anytime you don't have an argument. They're your default 'break glass incase of losing debate' emergency responses.
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>>1356986 >First off, I'm pointing out the obvious problem with your DURRR MUH 2025 argument that you people bring up every - fucking - time. You haven't pointed out any problem. Your entire response to my argument was "Umm well Trump disavowed it" without addressing the fact that a) over half of Project 2025's 300 writers have worked for Trump's administration or campaign at some point, b) Trump has claimed to know nothing about it but has been seen flying and dining with the two heads of the project and c) Trump and the GOP echo some of the policies laid out in 2025 verbatim and promises to execute some of them if he wins in 2024, including massive rollbacks of EPA regulations. Trump already signed several rollbacks during his first term. You haven't addressed any of these points I made. You just keep screaming and being upset that I mentioned Project 2025.
>What's hilarious is that we didn't hear much about 2025 until Biden fucked up his debate with Trump, and then every parrot in congress and the media kept saying This has nothing to do with anything I've said. This argument has turned into you being triggered that I mentioned Project 2025 and refusing to address any of the underlying points.
>Secondly, did Trump abolish the EPA at any point between 2016 - 2020? Why or why not? What does Trump not abolishing the EPA have to do with the 3 clear and concise arguments I made in the first paragraph? How is that a counter to anything I've said?
>Shut your cocksucking mouth, faggot. Both 2025 and Trump = Hitler are the two stances you cunts have anytime you don't have an argument. You're literally arguing with someone that isn't in the room. You're so incapable of engaging with me all you can do is throw up the weakest strawmen you can think of to avoid articulating a coherent argument.
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>>1356989 Oh my god this guy is retarded.
>You haven't pointed out any problem. I just did you retarded subhuman. This is you:
>Its in the Project 2025 document to abolish the EPA and the DOE. >Also I love sucking cocks so much omnomnom So when I asked you "did Trump abolish the EPA at any point between 2016 - 2020? Why or why not?" OF FUCKING COURSE the response I would get is
>What does Trump not abolishing the EPA have to do with the 3 clear and concise arguments I made in the first paragraph? Which is all about Project 2025... The same Project 2025 that Trump didn't read and doesn't approve of - that you stupid cunts bring up ALL - THE - FUCKING - TIME whenever you can't win an argument.
>Muh Trump gonna dissolve EPA muh DOE >So why didn't he do that when he was in power and Republicans owned every branch? >uhhhhhh MUH PROJECT 2025 So I'll ask you again you dirty subhuman clown... did Trump abolish the EPA at any point between 2016 - 2020? Why or why not?
Seriously, either answer my question or fuck off and go back to sucking off your black boyfriend.
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>>1357003 >So when I asked you "did Trump abolish the EPA at any point between 2016 - 2020? Why or why not?" OF FUCKING COURSE the response I would get is Trump not abolishing the EPA doesn't refute any of the 3 points I made. The initial argument started from a post citing several news articles about Trump's EPA rollbacks causing an increase in pollution. Trump didn't need to completely abolish the EPA to cause this to happen.
>Which is all about Project 2025... The same Project 2025 that Trump didn't read and doesn't approve of - that you stupid cunts bring up ALL - THE - FUCKING - TIME whenever you can't win an argument. You're actually so triggered by the mention of Project 2025 you've lost the ability to read and process basic conversational English.
>So I'll ask you again you dirty subhuman clown... did Trump abolish the EPA at any point between 2016 - 2020? Why or why not? The reason you're so stuck on this false premise is because you have no response to the 3 arguments I made. I never made the claim Trump was 100% going to abolish the EPA. It has nothing to do with the argument. The claim I made was a) hundreds of the people who wrote the plan to abolish the EPA worked for Trump's administration, b) Trump has signaled that he plans on further rolling back EPA regulations and c) abolishing/defunding the EPA is a mainstream conservative position completely irrelevant to the existence of Project 2025. Matt Gaetz and several other GOP lawmakers proposed a house bill in 2017 to abolish it. Engage with what the fuck I just said, anon. Explain to me how any of the 3 things I just said are incorrect.
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>>1357009 >Trump not abolishing the EPA doesn't refute any of the 3 points I made. Those three points being
>a) over half of Project 2025's 300 writers have worked for Trump's blah blah blah >b) Trump has claimed to know nothing about it but has been seen flying and dining blah blah blah >c) Trump and the GOP echo some of the policies blah blah fucking blah Just more Muh 2025 bullshit.
> Trump didn't need to completely abolish the EPA to cause this to happen. So he doesn't need to abolish the EPA now to achieve his evil mastermind plan of lowering gas prices?
>I never made the claim Trump was 100% going to abolish the EPA. Oh my mistake. When I read:
> Its in the Project 2025 document to abolish the EPA and the DOE. and your constant moaning about how Trump is totally going to follow Project 2025, your three points of bullshit, it sounded a lot like Trump was going "to abolish the EPA and the DOE" with the way you keep bringing up Project 2025 and linking it to Trump even though he's said SEVERAL times he doesn't support it.
This is a waste of my fucking time.
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>>1356641 >>1356646 I forgot to mention Kamala's bumper sticker. It read, "I Traffick Girls with Ghlaine".
Craziest shit ever.
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>>1357013 >This is a waste of my fucking time. no it isn't, if it was you'd quit your job spamming here 24/7
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>>1356948 >>1356983 Sorry, buddy. But nobody's willing to humor your lies anymore.
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>>1357070 here's a rupee faggot
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You're telling me Trump is a lolicon?
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>>1357068 >posting on 4chan is a job Well I guess that's why this site has sucked since 2007 when I got here.
>in before newfag Anonymous
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>>1356618 Happens all the time