No one is above the law.. Except the Biden family.
Even when Trump pardoned Charles Kushner, it was 14 years after Charles had already served his entire sentence and paid restitution.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/02/us-news/musk-brags-as-biden-tweet-gets-community-note-no-one-is-above-the-law/ Elon Musk gloats as X fact-checks old Biden tweet that ‘no one is above the law’ after Hunter pardon
Elon Musk is among those mocking President Biden’s shocking hypocrisy in granting son Hunter a pardon — noting how fact-checkers on X flagged the president for saying that “no one is above the law.”
Biden’s tweet, an attack on now-President-elect Donald Trump, went viral after Biden announced late Sunday that he was giving a total pardon to his troubled son after repeatedly insisting he would not interfere with justice.
It now has a warning: “President Joe Biden pardoned his son, Hunter Biden, for crimes covering nearly 11 years of ‘offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024.'”
However, X owner and Trump adviser Musk shared a proposed note that was even more damning.
“By pardoning his son Hunter, not merely for a single crime, but for actual or potential crimes he may or may not have created over an eleven-year period, Joe Biden has made clear that some people are, in fact, above the law.”
Musk shared a screenshot to his more than 200 million followers with the simple message: “Community Notes slays.”
Hunter Biden, 54, pleaded guilty in September to nine counts tied to bilking Americans of $1.4 million in taxes and was found guilty of three federal gun charges in June after he was charged with possession of a firearm while addicted to illegal drugs.
The president argued Sunday that Hunter was being pardoned while reversing his previous claim that he would not issue a pardon for the younger Biden
Anonymous
“Those who were late paying their taxes because of serious addictions, but paid them back subsequently with interest and penalties, are typically given non-criminal resolutions. It is clear that Hunter was treated differently.”
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Hunter Biden was pardoned for every potential crime he may have committed over a span of 11 years. He could have murdered someone in a crack fueled rage and it doesn't matter now.
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>>1365961 if it werent for double standards the retard demonrats wouldnt have standards at all
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DOH, i have an opinion, so listen
>>1365968 tRump is even higher above the law, but he's your king and yor the village idiot, so there's that
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>>1365974 >yor the village idiot Anonymous
>>1365966 Murder isn't a federal crime unless certain conditions are met like murdering a federal official. Most crimes aren't federal crimes. Presidential pardon power is for federal crimes.
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>>1365961 why didnt the biden pig pardon the 2000 blacks who are in prison for the same thing hunter did?
Anonymous
>>1365961 Trump was impeached for trying to investigate all the crimes that Joe Biden just pardoned Hunter over.
Its time to kill the democrat party
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>>1365966 >Hunter Biden was pardoned for every potential crime he may have committed over a span of 11 years. Logistially not possible to enact, and lawfully unable to enforce when there's *no conviction to pardon*. Try reading documents from your DOJ instead of propaganda machine's speculations. Without a conviction to pardon, nothing has been pardoned. The scope of the pardon was also limited to two docket numbers.
>He could have murdered someone in a crack fueled rage and it doesn't matter now. See above. and:
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>>1365961 Good, everyone knows this was a political witch hunt.
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>>1366017 >Logistially not possible to enact, and lawfully unable to enforce when there's *no conviction to pardon*. You aren't American aren't you? Let me paste the text of it, it specifies "any crimes he may have committed"
>Be It Known, That This Day, I, Joseph R. Biden, Jr., President of the United States, Pursuant to My Powers Under Article II, Section 2, Clause 1, of the Constitution, Have Granted Unto ROBERT HUNTER BIDEN A Full and Unconditional Pardon For those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024, It's a blanket pardon from any crimes, known and unkown,, just like what Nixon got, but it spans 2.5x the length of time
You Are just flat out wrong lmao
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>>1366017 Just so your aware, Nigel, the president can pardon someone who hasn't been arrested or convicted of any crimes and can pardon someone for a period of time granting clemency for any potential crimes they may have committed
This is readily googlable and Nixon is the go-to example, who received clemency from Gerald Ford for any crimes he may have committed over a period of 4.5 years
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>>1365962 >late paying their taxes 5-8 years is not "late". That's just "not paying taxes".
>my boss fires me for never turning up to work >your honor, this is unfair, I'm just running 2 months late Anonymous
>>1366034 You're right. I'm not retarded. Allow me to paste text in response, this time from your justice department:
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/file/898541/dl > Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. In addition, the President's pardon power extends to convictions adjudicated in the Superior Court of the
District of Columbia and military court-martial proceedings. However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense
Now, note the language. This is "legalese" not English. As a society the law society gets it's own language and it's own dictionary. Use that to define the words used.
Also, note: there *requires* to be a conviction. This is a matter of simple logistics. Similar to how you cannot be convicted of a crime before it happens, you cannot be pardoned from a conviction before the conviction happens. These are post-facto actions.
>You Are just flat out wrong lmao Again. Try reading actual documents that define your law - as opposed to a rumour mill and it's speculations.
>>1366035 Aint nigel, but nice try. The president *can* pardon before a conviction. This however isn't logistically possible to enact - without a conviction to overturn the act itself is moot - and isn't legally enforcable without the conviction to enforce it upon.
The sort of logic you're sporting is similar to me putting up a sign saying: Don't put your dick into the toaster - then me citing the sign as the reason there's so few toaster-dick burns.
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>>1365961 chuddie had to make ANOTHER thread about this because he's that butthurt
>>1365970 and then this asshole shows up
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>>1366038 Hey retard. It's federal crimes that can be pardoned. Your conflating potential federal crimes vs state crimes, the latter of which cannot be pardoned by the president.
Allow me to help you put on your thinking hat so you aren't so retarded:
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions Can the President pardon someone before they are indicted, convicted, or sentenced for a federal offense against the United States?
It would be highly unusual, but there have been a few cases where people who had not been charged with a crime were pardoned, including President Gerald Ford's pardon of President Richard Nixon after Watergate, President Jimmy Carter's pardon of Vietnam draft dodgers and President George H.W. Bush's pardon of Caspar Weinberger. President Donald J. Trump pardoned Joseph Arpaio and others after they were charged and convicted, but prior to sentencing.
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>>1366038 >Try reading actual documents that define your law >Your law Bro. You are demonstrably incorrect. You are a foreigner involving yourself in American politics and you are incorrect.
Nixon was given a blanket pardon for any crimes he may have committed. The fact you don't know this and are uneducated is your problem.
Stop acting so retarded and do research.
Btw your statement is about state vs federal crimes you idiot
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>>1366038 >This however isn't logistically possible to enact - without a conviction to overturn the act itself is moot - and isn't legally enforcable without the conviction to enforce it upon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon Anonymous
>>1366045 Hey, retard,
>Your conflating potential federal crimes vs state crimes, the latter of which cannot be pardoned by the president. No. This is all you. I'm quite clear on the difference between federal and state crime. There's a clue in the name. Re-read my post. Put on your thinking hat and get an adult to wipe the drool from the corner of your mouth. Note how the language expressly defines 'criminal conviction' and not 'criminal action'. Why would that be?
Demonstrate how it is logistically possible to overturn a conviction that doesn't exist.
Then demonstrate how it's legally enforcable, within the scope of your current legal framework.
Note: I have not said it cannot happen. Just it fucks itself in the arse.
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>>1366046 >The fact you don't know this and are uneducated is your problem. I stated I was unaware of this, where? This demonstrates that logistically it's possible to enforce, how?
>Btw your statement is about state vs federal crimes you idiot That's what *you* took away from it, because you're an idiot. It's a copypasta from your DOJ, and it was put there to highlight **criminal conviction** as opposed to **criminal action**, which the legislation clearly does not cover.
Stop acting retarded and do some research.
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>>1366048 >>1366049 Look foreign shill, if you want to argue for different legal theories and interpretations of law than what we currently have, you are more than welcome to try to get citizenship, move here, get admitted to the bar, and argue your perspective.
Until then, you are demonstrably incorrect and clemency is indeed perceived to cover crimes which have not yet resulted in arrests or indictments.
You can find clear evidence of that here
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions and here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon The
justice.gov faq has this exact same question and clearly states people are pardoned for crimes where they have not yet been indicted yet.
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>>1365961 Biden’s presidency began with him denying the existence of Hunter Biden’s laptop and is now concluding with him giving Hunter a pardon for everything uncovered on it.
Anyone who votes democrat can only be a idiot.
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>>1366049 >It's a copypasta from your DOJ you copy and pasted the wrong thing tho. That wasn't about pardoning potential crimes.
It was about pardoning state crimes you retard.
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>>1366051 Aint a shill - tho you can pay me if you'd like.
This isn't a theory. It's not a different interpretation. Grab yourself some legalese dictionary and start looking up the meaning of words used in the language. It's this definition that counts.
>clearly states people are pardoned for crimes where they have not yet been indicted yet. Again. I didn't say that it wasn't possible to occur. What I said is logistically impossible to enforce. If you'd stop to think for a second instead of going "reeeeee - someone is contradicting stupid shit on the internet" you'd be able to consider the framework in which this operates.
> you are more than welcome to try to get citizenship That's a hard pass. I've no wish to become part of a third world country that's going downhill rapidly.
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>>1366053 Did I copy the 'wrong' thing? Or are you reading what I've pasted and selectively extracting the data that suits your narrative?
It did mention state crime in that paragraph. But that's not all it mentioned. Focus on that which you clearly missed...
Find me the legislation on "potential crimes". I can only find legislation on "convicted crimes". I wonder why that is?
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>>1366055 Here's the DoJ saying people can and have been pardoned before an indictment. The one about draft dodgers doesn't even specify *who* potentially committed crimes.
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions >Can the President pardon someone before they are indicted, convicted, or sentenced for a federal offense against the United States? If you want to sealion, or argue something else than what is demonstrable fact, you can do so on your own, foreign shill.
You've lost this argument because you are flat out wrong and it's easily demonstrated so
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>>1366055 I'll give you a protip too. "Pre-emptive pardon". Try googling it.
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>>1366056 Again. That only proves it has happened. It doesn't prove that it's lawfully or logistically enforcable. All the legalese in the framework uses post-facto language. For a reason.
You can think I've "lost" if that helps you sleep better at night. You'd be better served with grabbing some books.
Anonymous
>>1365974 >tRump can someone explain what this is? i see it constantly on /news/. is this the same guy posting this over and over?
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>>1366057 Tangibly, you cannot pardon that which isn't an offence. Offence is presumed innocent until proof of guilt. Ergo conviction.
Pre-emptive pardons de facto pardon nothing. Take a second to consider how your legal framework operates.
However, should prosecution occur it has been signalled that this will be overturned, and the general consensus is not to bother wasting time and resource.
This does not detract from the fact that you cannot overturn a conviction that doesn't exist, and 'potential crime' isn't something your legal framework supports the concept of.
Anonymous
>>1366039 Democrats hardly ever have any scandals compared to Republicans, they have to latch on to whatever they can get. I'm sure some tards are gonna reply with nothing burgers, go ahead, waste your time on me please.
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>>1366063 If you get your news from the same chud grievance news sources as some posters here, who treat every child predator and every mass shooter as automatically democrats, then you never hear anything bad about republicans. There is more than enough drama on twatter and fuckbook which could be blamed on leftists than could fill the NYpost and the Daily Mail with outrage bait for a year.
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>>1365961 I wouldn't be bothered about it if everyone was given the same leniency. I know that the republicans and the dems both do everything they can to destroy each other. Hunter did wrong but yeah, it was a political thing. Trump did wrong, but again they used the law as a weapon against him. It's all the same.
Until niggas in the streets get the same leniency I don't like it though.
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>>1366062 >Offence is presumed innocent until proof of guilt Holy fuck foreigner.
"Innocence is presumed until proven guilty"
Pre-emptive pardons are very real and do not require even suspicion of a crime to be valid
Fuck off foreigner shill, you are embarrassing yourself
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>>1366062 If you think biden stating he is pardoning hunter all offences he did commit or "may have committed" is an illegal pardon, you are free to bring it up to a judge
Oh wait, you can't, because you aren't American and your opinion doesn't matter
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>>1366067 I didn't say pre-emptive pardons are not 'very real'. What I said was: "Pre-emptive pardons de facto pardon nothing. Take a second to consider how your legal framework operates."
You really are embaressing yourself. One day you might open your eyes enough to see this.
>>1366068 >is an illegal pardon, you are free to bring it up to a judge I didn't say that. What I said is it's not legally or logistically possible to enforce without there first being a conviction to overturn.
Please learn to read. It will save you a lot of problems later. If you can learn to think that will be a bonus, and sure to serve you equally well.
>you aren't American and your opinion doesn't matter Quite glad about that, as it happens. You are certainly free to take that stance. Bear in mind I'm only attempting to encourage critical thought on your part. Do, or don't. Neither impacts me beyond how much I get to point and laugh.
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>>1366069 >Pre-emptive pardons de facto pardon nothing In 1977 Carter pre-emptively pardoned anyone who dodged the conscription for the Vietnam war, and it de-facto prevented anyone further from being charged with the crime. You are de-facto wrong, foreigner.
Anonymous
Hunter isn't above the law.
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>>1366067 If they're innocent then they cannot be pardoned, retard.
Anonymous
>>1366076 Kinda what I've been saying... The responses just highlight precisely why their country is such a shitshow, and precisely why there's little probabliity to correct this. Unable to think, just react - and make the stupidiest moves available in the process.
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>>1366078 >>1366076 In 1977 Carter pre-emptively pardoned anyone who dodged the conscription for the Vietnam war, and it de-facto prevented anyone further from being charged with the crime. You are de-facto wrong, foreigners
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>>1366078 >>1366076 You people are wrong and no amount of fart huffing will change that
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions >Can the President pardon someone before they are indicted, convicted, or sentenced for a federal offense against the United States? Anonymous
>>1366079 >In 1977 Carter pre-emptively pardoned anyone who dodged the conscription for the Vietnam war That wasn't preemptive you faggot. The vietnam war lasted from 1955–1975
Draft dodging as an American is a crime. Failing to register for Selective Service as a man in America means you're a felon.
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>>1366082 >That wasn't preemptive you faggot Google "pre-emptive pardon" because it doesn't mean pardoning someone in the future like you think it does.
It means pardoning someone for something in the past before they have been convicted
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>>1366083 >Google "pre-emptive pardon" Okay.
https://www.justice.gov/archive/pardon/adams1.htm >As the foregoing indicates, a person who has not yet been convicted or has not fully served the sentence for the federal crime for which pardon is sought is ineligible for pardon under the regulations that guide the Department of Justice's processing of pardon requests. All of you are faggots.
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>>1366084 Bro that is a clemency petition not a presidential pardon you absolute fuckwad.
If you think Biden pardoning his son is illegal you are absolutely free to look like a joke petitioning a judge as a foreigner
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>>1366084 >a person does not become eligible to file a pardon request with the Department until the expiration of a five-year waiting period that commences upon the date of the individual's release from confinement Oh wow so it has nothing to do with a president pardoning someone. It only prevents someone from asking the president for a pardon
You want to try again, you braindead retard?
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>>1366085 Yeah the ruling class made corruption legal
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Look, I get that he's a senile old bastard but that'z your son man. I get it.
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>>1365966 >Charles Kushner was pardoned for every potential crime he may have committed over a span of 14 years. He could have murdered someone in a hooker, tax dodging fueled rage and it doesn't matter now. >This is the single most extensive presidential pardon ever in US history and this fact makes neonazi socialists literally implode. Anonymous
>>1366137 But you are lying. He was pardoned only for specific crimes he was convicted of and this happened a decade after he served his sentence.
If it was discovered he committed a new crime during this period, he would be liable for it
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>>1366093 It's just the deceit and hypocrisy of it all. They come across like HR telling me I'm family and matter to them, when they hire their family for 99x what they pay me and have them work less.
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>>1366079 >>1366080 Okay then - If I am wrong. Prove it.
Remember, I didn't say pre-emptive pardons have not happened - I said without a conviction to overturn a pardon is not logistially possible and not legally enforcable - as there is no conviction to act upon.
Prove otherwise. Demonstrate how, without a conviction, a conviction can be overturned. Or even better, prove your legal framework entertains the notion of potential crime.
You're a retard, and no amount of failing to engage your brain will solve this.
>>1366083 >pardoning someone for something in the past before they have been convicted Sans conviction, what is to be pardoned, precisely? Or are you trying to tell me they're guilty of the crime before this is proven in a court of law and conviction occurs?
>>1366072 Using logic and fact to support your arguments? Good luck.
>>1366144 You sound surprised - what is it you was actually expecting to happen?
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>>1366152 >Okay then - If I am wrong. Prove it https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions >Can the President pardon someone before they are indicted, convicted, or sentenced for a federal offense against the United States? Suck a cock, shillbot. You are wrong and it's been proven that people can be pardoned before being convicted.
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>>1366139 copium, goal posts, mental gymnastics
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I'm outraged! He should apologize!!!
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>>1366162 That fails to demonstrate how, without a conviction to act upon, a conviction may be overturned. It just regurgitates the same information previously posted.
It confirms it has happened, but it completely fails to address the critical point you cannot be forgiven when there has been no offence, and without a conviction you're presumed innocent of offences as default.
Anonymous
>>1366166 Well if you want to argue it shouldn't be done, you should do so in front of a judge, because it factually has been done several times and nobody appears to think it can't be done except you.
Try taking your case to a judge, weirdo
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>>1365961 I'm so glad the most corrupt president in US history will be out of office in a month. Sad he miscarried justice by protecting his son from the effects of his crimes, but it is what it is
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>>1366167 I've not said it shouldn't be done. Read what I have put, not what you want to find.
I've also not said it can't be done.
What I have said is it's not logistically possible to enforce pre-conviction because pardon acts on convictions. If there's no conviction, there's nothing for the pardon to act upon.
Innocent until proven guilty innit? So, without a proof of guilt - ie: conviction - what is it you think to be pardoned? Potential crime? I don't see much legislation on potential crime, meaning your legal framework doesn't support the concept. mayhaps you'd care to show me where this is?
All your legislation acts on convicted crime. For a reason.
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>>1366170 >What I have said is it's not logistically possible to enforce pre-conviction because pardon acts on convictions. If there's no conviction, there's nothing for the pardon to act upon. Okay sure. Well it happens and so far every time it has been enforced. Doesn't really matter what you think should be the case because that's the fact right now
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>>1366172 This isn't what *I* think. It's what your legislation states. Innocent until proven guilty - until the point of conviction, you are innocent of crime.
Without a conviction to overturn it's a massive nothing-burger that provisions them the same protections they had previously - ie: innocent (until proven guilty).
If you'd tried arguing that it signals intent to quash that makes persuit of a guilty verdict an act of futility you'd have a much stronger argument - but I shouldn't have to do your thinking for you(you do seem to require it) and it still fails to negate the logical fallicy.
And it certainly hasn't been enforced - There's nothing for it to act upon, legally. As until the point of conviction you have not done that crime so cannot be forgiven.
What you really *should* be focussing on is the presidential pardon comes with an assumptive admission of guilt - which would apply to the two docket numbers listed - but, again, I shouldn't have to do your thinking for you.
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>>1366177 >Without a conviction to overturn it's a massive nothing-burger that provisions them the same protections they had previously - ie: innocent (until proven guilty). Ok sure pal.
In reality when these pre-emptive pardons happen the people who are preemptively pardoned have never had such charges brought up against them at a later date.
So idk. You went from being completely wrong to now just arguing abstract legal theory that's never been tested in real life, probably because nobody agrees with you
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>>1366177 For something you think doesn't exist, or can't be enforced, people sure are putting a lot of political capital into it thinking it does exist and it can be enforced:
>>1365961 Anonymous
>>1366181 It's not abstract. And it's tested every time a conviction is attempted. Otherwise you'd just skip due process in the court and get straight to sentencing.
Again. I'm not arguing pre-emptive pardons have not happend, I'm arguing the logical fallicy of being forgiven for a crime you haven't commited.
>probably because nobody agrees with you I'm not sure which part of "your legislation" you find confusing. Or how. But you quite likely require to address it. Grab a dictionary. You'll want a legal dictionary because the law society uses it's own language and some of the words - like: pardon, offense - have specific meanings. Then armed with this, process the legal framework.
Tell me what "he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment." means.
Hint: it hinges on conviction. Mostly because before this, you're innocent anyway.
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>>1366189 >I'm arguing the logical fallicy of being forgiven for a crime you haven't commited. Well then go ahead and argue this fallacy somewhere else because that's what happens in the real world with preemptive pardoning
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>>1366192 Seems pretty on /topic to me.
Far more on /topic than the thread's title, and around ¼ of the posts.
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>>1366189 I just want to find 11780 votes, which is only 1 more than we need.
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>>1366085 >Bro that is a clemency petition not a presidential pardon you absolute fuckwad. Stare decisis, faggooo.
>If you think Biden pardoning his son is illegal- He already broke the law several times during his term, retard. He censored American citizens and unironically threatened people for speaking out against his policy decisions, violating the first amendment.
Do you think the guy that uses his son as an unregistered foreign agent to sell his influence to foreign energy magnates is somehow incapable of violating the fucking law?
Kill yourself.
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>>1365961 It's fucking gay that biden voted for the gun and drug laws and then pardoned his kid. I wanted hunter to get raped to death as punishment to biden for voting for those gun laws
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Hunter Biden was pardoned for every potential crime he may have committed over a span of 11 years. He could have murdered someone in a crack fueled rage and it doesn't matter now.
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>>1366217 >Charles Kushner was pardoned for every potential crime he may have committed over a span of 14 years. He could have murdered someone in a tax evading, election fraud, prostitute fueled rage and it doesn't matter now. >This is the single most extensive presidential pardon ever in US history and this fact makes MAGA 4th Reich's literally implode. Anonymous
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>>1366219 >MAGA 4th Reich's I get what you're trying to convey - but wouldn't "4th rate" be more accurate?
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>>1366219 >Charles Kushner was pardoned for every potential crime he may have committed over a span of 14 years Nope. Shit lie too.
Anonymous
Kek.
Even wapo says there's no historic parallels to the extent of hunter biden's pardon
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/12/02/hunter-biden-presidential-pardon-comparisons/ >The extraordinary breadth of Hunter Biden’s pardon >President Joe Biden’s pardon of son Hunter for any offenses over a nearly 11-year period doesn’t have many, if any, direct historical parallels. >President Joe Biden’s pardon of his son, Hunter Biden, on Sunday is exceptional not just because of the pardon’s recipient — the closest family member to receive a pardon in history — but also for its sheer breadth, according to experts on presidential pardons. >Biden didn’t just pardon his son for his convictions on tax and gun charges, but for any “offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014, through December 1, 2024.” Anonymous
>>1366219 Well no, actually. The Kushner pardon is extremely specific in referring exactly to the crime for which Charles was convicted, sentenced and for which he served his time
>FOR HIS cONVICTION in the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey on an information (Docket No. 2:04-CR-580-JLL) charging violations of Sections 2, 1001(a)(2), and 1513(e), Title 18, and Section 7206(2), Title 26, United States Code, for which he was sentenced on March 4, 2005, to 24 months' imprisonment, two years' supervised release, a $40,000 fine, and a $1,800 special assessment. Whereas the Hunter one isn't.
>FOR THOSE OFFENSES against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024,
including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted (including any that have resulted
in convictions) by Special Counsel David C. Weiss in Docket No. 1 :23-cr-00061-MN in the
United States District Court for the District of Delaware and Docket No. 2:23-CR-00599-MCS-1
in the United States District Court for the Central District of California.
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>>1366229 The person you are replying to is a fart huffing idiot. Im not certain he understands any evidence you give him
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"Even still, the scope of the pardon is remarkable. Experts say there is little to no precedent for a pardon covering such a wide range of activity over such a long period, with the closest being Gerald Ford’s 1974 pardon of Richard M. Nixon after Nixon resigned post-Watergate."
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>>1366227 the entire democrat party deserves death and every single democrat vote deserve to have the shit beaten out of them for the damage they did to the world over the last 4 years
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>>1366233 You gonna retain that mindset when inevitably, the damage trump causes is inescapable to even the most ardent fanatic? 'cause that's gonna last a lot longer than four years. Think decades. You haven't even recovered from trump's last stint in office.
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>>1366237 Keep huffing your own farts. You want to huff some of my farts too? I can send some your way
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>>1366238 You can certainly try, I'm not going to stop you.
What is your obsession with flatulence, anyhay? you appear to mention it almost every post... You do realise there's better things to fill your mind with?
Anonymous
>>1366224 He was pardoned, based 1000% on nepotism, 14 years after becoming a convicted felon. It's the same thing.
Next, Joe Biden should give Hunter a high ranking position such as Ambassador to France. Oh, wait.
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>>1366240 Hunter was also pardoned for every potential federal crime he may have committed over the last decade.
Nobody has ever had a pardon like that in us history before. Closest was Nixon was was pardoned for 4 years of potential crime.
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>>1366240 Hunter could have murdered someone 3 days ago and now he can't be charged for it.
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>>1366241 Why are you so hung up on the time frame? This is acts of a person, not time passed of a person.
>>1366242 Trump can do a J6 and have people die and not get charged for it. You have the most selective outrage of anyone on this board.
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>>1366243 >Why are you so hung up on the time frame? Because it is the single most sweeping pardon ever in US history.
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>>1366243 >Trump can do a J6 Oh fuck. It's another episode of "democrats do something fucked up and blame trump"
You bots really need a new script
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>>1366243 >Why are you so hung up on the time frame? And ignoring the language limits scope to those two docket numbers...
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Election is over bro, nobody cares
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>>1366245 >democrats do something fucked up Huh? It's just pardons.
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>>1366252 He's being granted amnesty for crimes that may implicate him and his father in treason.
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>>1366252 Yeah I'm sure everyone all across the US is currently praising Joe Biden right now for his benevolent action of pardoning his son for 11 years of law breaking.
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>>1366252 Pardons for raping kids, among other crimes.
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>>1366255 So you agree that Trump having classified documents unsecured in his home where he hosted foreign nationals was probably treason?
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>>1366258 Why are you so mentally ill?
Is it a requirement for being a leftist?
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>>1366259 ..you really don't know about the laptop or diary, do you.
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>>1366264 I can't confess to 'knowing' as I've had access to neither.
I've heard rumours regarding the laptop. They didn't contain any mention of child rape.
I've heard rumours of a diary. It wasn't hunter's. It seemed to implicate his father of secksual misconduct.
Neither of that conforms to your claims.
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>>1366263 Sucking on Trump's cock isn't going to help you be less of a loser. It will just leave an orange ring around your mouth.
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>>1366267 you dont need to prove him right we already know you are mentally ill and a brainwashed child
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>>1366255 >He's being granted amnesty for crimes that may implicate him and his father in treason. OK. And?
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Anyone else notice that Trump supporters got angrier after Trump won?
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>>1366274 No. To my observation, they've been like this for some time... way further back than 2016...
I'll concede that despite the result they wanted they didn't calm.
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>>1366274 It's so wierd. Like after the election, instead of celebrating, I've mostly seen them complaining about dems not physically revolting against the election. Conversely, they've gone completely silent about rigged elections.
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>>1366274 When I was a kid I had a babysitter tell me that I could curse as much as I wanted to, so I spent 4 hours yelling "fuck" and "shit" playing legos while my parents were out. It's kinda the same thing.
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>>1366265 >I can't confess to 'knowing' as I've had access to neither. He was banging his underaged niece.
>inb4 source He took photographs of himself doing it.
He sent messages sexting his niece.
She wrote about it in her diary.
All of this was being talked about four years ago and is now a matter of congressional record. /pol/ had to be irradiated because they were posting the CSAM portion of his personal files.
The contents of the laptop's HD + hunter's icloud have been sanitized and published online.
https://nypost.com/2023/06/01/hunter-biden-laptop-photo-archive-published-on-new-website/ Anonymous
>>1366285 >>1366284 >>1366275 >>1366274 >4 seethe posts inna row lmao holy shit this shill is absolutely SEETHING because he got BTFO earlier in the thread
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>>1366286 Literally none of the stuff you mentioned is in the article you posted. Wtf man?
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Which niece did Hunter bang?
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>>1366287 Only one o them is me, fucktard.
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>>1366335 For clarity, that'd be:
>>1366275 Anonymous
>>1366335 In his headcanon every poster he disagrees with is the same democrat operative troon poster.
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>>1366337 I know. I'm just showing him that.
You can lead a horse to water...
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>>1366255 >may implicate him and his father in treason. >may Where is the proof? You've had the laptop for years and nothing
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>>1366372 reminder that the laptop is legally complete bullshit. It and the contents changed hands so many times it's been tainted like 3 times over. No judge or lawyer would accept or present that as legitimate evidence because we have no way of knowing what was originally on the damn thing before it got passed around like the town bike. You can blame Giuliani, Fox, and the the magical blind computer store owner for that one
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>>1366391 You people keep willfully ignoring that there are like 3 'laptops' the FBI has of hunters, and what you keep referring to as 'the laptop' is actually a clone of the hard disk of one of hunters laptops. The first laptop of hunters the FBI came to posses was taken from hunters psychiatrists office during a raid some time before the whole repairman issue, because his shrink was illegally prescribing drugs to patients
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>>1366393 >taken from hunters psychiatrists office during a raid Dr Keith ablow
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>>1366393 >The first laptop of hunters the FBI came to posses was taken from hunters psychiatrists office during a raid some time before the whole repairman issue, because his shrink was illegally prescribing drugs to patients Fucking source? This story has always begun with the repair shop guy.
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>>1366400 >This story has always begun with the repair shop guy. Ah your right. One of hunters laptops was taken by the FBI from his shrink after the repair issue
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1720474/hunter-biden-second-laptop-seized-government-scandal/ Anonymous
>>1366400 Anyways, my point being, is that the FBI has multiple laptops of hunters, and what you keep falsely referring to as "the laptop" is a clone of the hard drive.
The information on that hard drive was authentic, but you are right, the hard drive clone can't be used in a court of law. The other laptops belonging to hunter that the FBI seized can though.
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>>1366391 No-one seems to pick up on the 'legally blind' person stumbling across emails...
>>1366393 Forensic SOP *is* clone the drive and work from the clone to preserve data. However, the quality of the analysis depends heavily on the analyst.
>>1366406 In prosecution, the clone's data is always used, the original sits in a bag (possibly with the rest of the laptop, but sometimes you can get the laptop back and they keep the drive, as they only *require* the data) on a desk. If they can prove owenership of the data, clone or otherwise, they most certainly can use it as evidence to prosecute.
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>>1366409 >Forensic SOP *is* clone the drive and work from the clone to preserve data. However, the quality of the analysis depends heavily on the analyst Well it wasn't a forensic analyst who cloned the laptop that Isaac had was it?
Regardless, the FBI has two authentic copies of hunters laptops and one hard drive clone.
Normally I would say that if they wanted to pursue any further charges against him they have plenty of sources of evidence, but I guess that's all a moot point now that his dad gave hunter God Mode at the doj
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>>1366406 Yeah, and it seems like the videos and shit everyone always harps on about and that pol almost got banned for aren't on it. Republicans had access to the copy the FBI got initially and couldn't determine wrongdoing despite a two year investigation, hence why the only thing Hunter ever actually got charged with was tax fraud and buying a gun while high.
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>>1366415 Yeah there was only evidence of 12 crimes on it. Not 13 like pol says
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>>1366412 It wasn't forensics to first touch the data. But a decent analyst would be able determine authenticity. Because the filing system's metadata would only be a single data point.
It aint 'god mode' - it's limited to the scope o them two docket numbers by the language, if you care to notice. Feasibly, things that isn't in them is still fair game.
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>>1366418 >But a decent analyst would be able determine authenticity. Oh yeah I agree, the fact that no analyst has been able to determine it's inauthentic doesn't change the fact that the data does not have an established chain of custody from owner to law enforcement. That's why the hard drive clone can't be used in a court of law but the actual laptops for FBI has could be... Once again assuming Hunter wasn't given protection from anything and everything by his father
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>>1366418 >It aint 'god mode I guess you're right. I should have been more clear. It's complete immunity for any potential federal crime that may have been committed between January 2014 and December 2024
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>>1366418 >it's limited to the scope o them two docket numbers by the language, You're either misinformed or lying.
>For those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024, including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted (including any that have resulted in convictions) by Special Counsel David C. Weiss in Docket No. 1:23-cr-00061-MN in the United States District Court for the District of Delaware and Docket No. 2:23-CR-00599-MCS-1 in the United States District Court for the Central District of California. "Including but not limited to dockets..."
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>>1366421 My bad, I must o misread it.
Still: Someone with this behavioural set will lack the self-control required to not generate further evidence. There's a cut off date, there will be evidence to use outside of this.
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>>1366415 >Republicans had access to the copy the FBI got initially and couldn't determine wrongdoing despite a two year investigation 1) They didn't get a copy that the FBI gave them. They were given a clone of the HD that was produced by the repair shop owner, who handed it off to Giuliani, who subsequently passed it off to Congress. The original disappeared because of the FBI.
2) They didn't investigate because they do the same shit Hunter does. Our political class is filled with druggie degenerates and pedophiles.
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>>1366431 >1) They didn't get a copy that the FBI gave them. They were given a clone of the HD that was produced by the repair shop owner, who handed it off to Giuliani, who subsequently passed it off to Congress. The original disappeared because of the FBI. Source?
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>>1365961 democrats and their intel dogs are the biggest traitors in US history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrJhQpvlkLA Anonymous
>>1366432 I can't be bothered.
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>>1366443 Why do you keep spamming this Joe Rogan clip in multiple threads?
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>>1366471 I've already posted a website hosting all of Hunter's files in the thread, and you faggots ignored it. I'm not going to try again.
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>>1366443 Holy fuck dude democrats are evil as fuck.
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>>1366469 Try watching it faggot. Im glad he spammed this. It's a damn good interview
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>>1366472 If you're talking about this one
>>1366286 It literally has none of the stuff you claimed. Are you just posting links and hoping no one actually follows them?
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>>1366487 You have a problem, idiot?
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>>1366489 yeah, you're a shameless samefag
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>>1366490 and a chronic spammer
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>>1366491 >>1366490 Something tells me you are a literal samefag calling others samefags.
I actually watched his video. I invite you to do the same.
Idiot.
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>>1366488 I think you're retarded for not actually reading the article, or clinking any of the links inside it.
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>>1366493 i actually know you're a samefag
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>>1366500 Lol. And now I actually know you are a crazy person.
Go ahead and reply to me and the person who posted the video and I'll go ahead and give you a screenshot
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someone tell the shill what anonymous means
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imagine defending spam
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We're all one samefag arguing with himself
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>>1366507 Hunter Biden caused this
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>>1365961 fucking based. go hunter.
crack smoking king.
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>>1365961 Nice photo op right in front of a crack head lmao
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>>1366014 Trump was impeached for trying to blackmail the Ukrainians into supporting his political schemes.
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>>1366547 Ukraine is corrupt enough with everything the Democrats do there. It was really inappropriate of trump to do something that would have made it worse
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>>1365974 >tRump can someone explain what this is? i see it constantly on /news/. is this the same guy posting this over and over?
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>>1366560 It's just a meme, old man. No need to phone the fire department
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>>1366560 >is this the same guy posting this over and over? Yes
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>>1366547 >supporting his political schemes. by doing what?
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>>1366676 Democrats believe that trying to investigate the criminal actions of a prominent Democrat or their family is itself corrupt
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>>1365961 >offenses against the United States I wonder how many crimes he has committed outside of the US...
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Hi. This post is for the anon who, when I posted ironically "gee I wonder if Biden will interfere in the process" after Hunter's charges were first announced, said "no he won't because he has respect for the rule of law and the process." Yeah, just thought I'd drop in here to remind you about that and laugh in your retarded fucking face.
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>>1366060 This board is thoroughly brigaded by leftist faggots who get BTFO in /pol/. Its unique board format allows them to shitpost, lie, and spew retarded bullshit constantly without repercussions.
Part of the retardation is ad hominems and childish insults because they are so deep in leftist delusion that they can’t discuss simple facts.
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>>1366878 /pol/ is thoroughly brigaded by rightwing faggots who get BTFO in /news/. They shitpost, lie, and spew retarded bullshit constantly without repercussions.
Part of the retardation is ad hominems and childish insults because they are so deep in qanon delusions that they can’t discuss simple facts.
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>>1366900 >butthurt leftist faggot has to copy the previous post and change the word leftist to rightwing the left isn't original and cannot meme, this is already known
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>>1366914 Wow, and just like that you've outed yourself as a newfag. Congratulations, you've played yourself
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>>1366543 Probably an undercover guy. But the crack is real to get into character.
