And he's not even president yet. Officials describing him as doing more for peace in the middle east in 1 day than Biden was able to accomplish over an entire year
Netanyahu describes it as "trump leaving him no choice"
https://legitgov.org/index.php/2025/01/14/trumps-mideast-envoy-forced-netanyahu-to-accept-a-gaza-plan-he-repeatedly-rejected/ Trump’s Mideast Envoy Forced Netanyahu to Accept a Gaza Plan He Repeatedly Rejected
Trump's Mideast Envoy Forced Netanyahu to Accept a Gaza Plan He Repeatedly Rejected By Chaim Levinson | 13 Jan 2025 | Israeli sources say that the involvement of the incoming U.S. administration, led by President-elect Trump's aggressive Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff, revived hostage talks with Hamas. While Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's propaganda machine claims that Trump has left him no choice, what happens inside his coalition will determine whether the prime minister approves the deal
According to a Saturday, January 11 press release, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “held a discussion to assess the situation regarding the hostages and the missing with the defense minister, the heads of the security establishment, and with the American negotiators of both the incoming and outgoing administrations. At the conclusion of the discussion, the Prime Minister directed the Mossad Director, the Shin Bet Director, Maj.-Gen. (Res) Nitzan Alon, and his Foreign Policy Adviser, Dr. Ophir Falk, to depart for Doha in order to continue advancing a deal to release our hostages.”
The incoming administration was represented by President-elect was Steve Witkoff, who had just been appointed special envoy to the Middle East.
Two Arab officials told The Times of Israel that during the meeting, Witkoff pressed Netanyahu to agree to critical compromises needed for a deal. According to the officials, Trump’s envoy achieved more in one discussion to influence the prime minister than outgoing President Joe Biden had managed throughout the year.
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>>1374693 wasn't it also reported he gave Netanyahu permission to violate any treaty set up and he'd side with him?
s0ychan
>>1374693 >peace in the middle east Appeasing terrorists is not how you get lasting peace.
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>>1374693 >https://legitgov.org/ Sure have been a lot of low quality facebook-tier sources posted lately
s0ychan
>>1374693 Hostage deals reward terrorist organisations; they incentivise seizing more hostages to gain leverage.
Nicolas Maduro's regime in Venezuela takes advantage of this (see:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/venezuelan-regime-hunts-for-foreign-hostages-to-pressure-its-rivals/ar-AA1wZEXW ).
This is not a show of strength from Trump, it is weakness.
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>>1374697 >>1374699 Unless Hamas gets completely occupied within the next couple yours.
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>>1374698 It was recommended to me by ground news. It's a left-biased source
The other source was The Jewish Times.
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>>1374707 It is nowhere near a left-based source.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/citizens-for-legitimate-government-clg-news/ >Citizens for Legitimate Government or CLG News claims to be a multi-partisan activist group established to expose and resist US imperialism, corpora-terrorism, and the New World Order. CLG was founded and is edited by Michael Rectenwald, Ph.D. They are based in Bristol, Connecticut. from the river to the sea
>>1374697 Agreed, just face reality, Hyram. Genocidal Zionists should never be treated as humans. Israel is a failed nation. It's dead, but like a head cut off from It's body, don't know it yet. The few humans left in Israel know they must accept majority Palestinian rule, or have their little piece of earth decimated by genetically altered pathogens. This WILL happen, if Zionist scum like Genocide Joe are allowed to continue their toxic influence.
from the river to the sea
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>>1374715 BTW, glowscum, I have no influence over this. It's just writing on the wall as genetic modifications become easy for any nation, even individuals to accomplish. It will be a scary future.
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>>1374708 Well idk what to tell you. Ground news rates clg as one step left of center and Jewish Times one step right of center. I chose the left leaning outlet
MBFC has a history of bias tho, they are a non profit and get paid to adjust bias ratings, that is their whole business strategy
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>>1374708 Although I do admit now that I'm revisiting the story and looking at it it's being reported by a lot more than just the initial two outlets I saw this morning when I woke up.
I could have chose a better source had I waited a few hours
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>>1374723 >I found it on groundnews That was your first problem. Why would you ever get news from a facebook aggregator? Is this some subtle trolling attempt I'm not getting?
Anonymous
>>1374725 >Why would you ever get news from a facebook aggregator Thats not what it is retard.
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>>1374693 Trump has nothing to do with this, he's not POTUS. Biden did this
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>>1374697 >Trump: let the hostages go or I'll fucking kill you >Hamas: okay daddy you win >democrats: DURR NEGOTIATING WITH TERRORISTS DURRR Anonymous
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>>1374737 The punchline is that Israel killed the hostages.
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>>1374699 Funny how you weren't saying shit when Obama released five terrorists to get back one army sergeant.
>it's only okay when WE do it! Anonymous
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>>1374740 I don't have a Facebook account. I'm assuming you were just linking to their Facebook page, and then lying and saying they are a Facebook aggregator
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>>1374740 Oh hey I can visit it without having an account, and I was right you are lying.
Pretty much expected it though
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>>1374693 I am fed up with trump shitting on my dick like this. I had to deal with 4 years of trump shitting on my dick almost every day and I'm definitely not going to sit around for another 4 years while he just continues shitting on my dick
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If he doesn't even need to be in office for you to give him credit for shit, why do you even want him in office?
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>>1374707 >It was recommended to me by ground news for a group that cries fakenews, you really dont know what fake news is.
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>>1374708 >mediafactcheckbias Lmao lol even
Get this shit out of here. Literally a liberal propaganda site. CNN is a right wing site according to this like shit
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>>1374749 https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/cnn-bias/ left-center
you're a retard and should die. I hate all you americans universally. the democrats are retarded subhumans, the right-wingers are retarded karens who think buying stuff is subsidizing. Fuck you all I hope god sends in more hurricanes earthquake wildfire and floods.
Anonymous
>>1374750 Left center proves my point. No one trusts your propaganda fake fact checker. You are a retarded third worlder. No one gives a shit about you seething over Americans
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>>1374751 >CNN is a right wing site according to this like shit >left-center >Left center proves my point. Anonymous
>>1374751 >reee left is right see see i'm right. I'm an uneducated moron ree i take pride in being retarded. of course you do of course
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>>1374752 >>1374753 Cry harder jets. Even putting CNN as center anything shows is extremely biased in favor or liberal news. Right wing news is more trustworthy anyway.
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>>1374755 ok so why did u say CNN would be considered right wing.
You should be executed for crimes against humanity.
St. Michael Brooks was just ok.
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>>1374707 Ground news is Shem Seders choice. The G.O.A.T. political pundit. TMR left is best
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>>1374756 Anything right of Stalin is center left on that shill site. Learn how to use a toilet before you talk shit ranjeet
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>>1374741 When did I say I supported Obama retard
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>>1374755 I was about to post "good post" but I considered the statement a bit more and I disagree.
For very very long I would have agreed with you full heartedly. For several years before and after 2016 they were a joke and I don't know how anyone could have taken them seriously.
In the last year or so, they have improved quite a bit. Idk I think someone higher up realized they had a reputation problem and decided to start hiring more politically diverse writers.
That being said I'd probably place it at center left right now
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>watching Joe Biden’s farewell speech >first thing to come out of his mouth is him trying to take credit for this peace deal.
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>>1374768 >Why would the guy currently in power take credit for the deal made while he's still the one in power Fucking mystery lol.
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>>1374769 Biden is a frail old man who’s about to leave office—he has no negotiating power. It’s the incoming administration that got this through, and you’re a brainlet if you can’t figure that out.
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>>1374770 you're a paid shill and it'syour job to tell absurd lies
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>>1374771 Projecting much?
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>>1374772 you make it too obvious
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>>1374770 Yeah, the incoming administration with 0 confirmed cabinet members. I'm sure.
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>>1374770 Literally this. The officials who witnessed this thing pretty much summarized exactly what you said
Anonymous
>>1374771 He's right, and you are a salty liar.
Deal with it
Anonymous
>>1374776 and stop samefagging. you're really bad at this
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>>1374774 > didn’t read the article > thinks only a “confirmed cabinet member” are allowed to negotiate. I don’t know if Steve Witkoff was a confirmed cabinet member or not, but the president has the authority to send whoever he wants to negotiate on his behalf.
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>>1374777 Reply to every post you think is mine at all screenshot it and share it with you
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>>1374777 Reply to every post you think is mine an I will screenshot it and share it with you
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>>1374778 Why would anyone make deals with people who aren't even confirmed to be in their positions yet lmao.
Meanwhile, Times of Israel has every reason to lie that Trump was responsible in spite of having literally no cabinet yet because then they can appeal to his ego to get whatever they want.
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>>1374782 >Why would anyone make deals with people who aren't even confirmed to be in their positions yet Probably because trump is known to hate muzzies and said if there wasn't a peace deal by the time he got into office there "would he hell to pay"
Oh, right. Lol.
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>>1374736 >Biden did this Biden sent trumps golfing buddy over to the middle east to negotiate peace? Oh wait no, that was trump
He didn't even need to be in office yet, lmao, things are already improving just with the knowledge he will be taking over in...
How many days again?
https://days.to/until/20-january Oh that's right, less than 4 days now
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>>1374782 >Trump was responsible in spite of having literally no cabinet yet He originally promised to do it right after taking office. Guess he broke his promise because he didn't even need to do that, he got the job done all on his own lmao
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>>1374783 >>1374784 >>1374785 Yeah I'm sure he magically came in and got a deal in 24 hours for a conflict that's been going for a year straight.
What's more likely is he was collaborating with Netanyahu to delay any kind of deal until after the election so he could take credit, when in reality he extended the time before a hostage exchange. Just like Reagan with the Iran hostages. And in exchange, Israel gets even more kickbacks from us.
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>>1374786 trumpfags have become terminally delusional, it should be a pretty hilarious 4 years if you don't mind watching the world burn alongside the hijinks
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>>1374786 >What's more likely is he was collaborating with Netanyahu Ah sweet another democrat conspiracy theory.
Got any more hot takes?
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>>1374786 Wait why am I even saying "more likely". He literally fucking admitted to it.
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/25/trump-netanyahu-support-gaza-lebanon/ I'm sure nothing suspect or even vaguely similar to Reagan's iran shenanigans went on during their private meetings.
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>>1374788 He literally admitted to it lmao.
>>1374789 Trump has been in contact with Neyanyahu since before the election. Both Reagan and Nixon did similar shit to give themselves issues to run on. It's literally in the republican playbook.
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>>1374789 That article doesnt support your conspiracy theory that it was preplanned, but you already knew that.
Democrats supporters are continually proven to be the number one source of misinformation online recently
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>>1374791 >Yeah I'm sure the head of Israel having regular meetings and calls with Trump meant nothing. Anonymous
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>>1374791 >Democrats supporters are continually proven to be the number one source of misinformation Now Brad, I think it's obvious we won just based on rally size. Look, this is what I want to do. I just want to find, 11780, uh, votes. Which is only 1 more than we need.
I'm only asking for 11000 votes here guys, give me a break.
Anonymous
>>1374793 Nice baseless conspiracy.
It's cool tho. Trump just did in a day what Biden couldn't do in 15 months.
I'm sure when Trump gets a peace deal brokered in Ukraine you'll come up some other similar conspiracy theory rubbish lol
Keep on coping, anon
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>>1374793 >The soon to be leader of the free world in talks with another world leader over one of the biggest conflicts going on right now is heckin’ sus guys. Do you realize how retarded you sound?
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>>1374796 No, he doesn't. It's a hallmark of mental retardation
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>>1374796 Before he's fucking elected?
Again, Reagan and Nixon did the exact same thing. Go to current world conflict in middle of talks. Promise they'll get a better deal if they drag it out for a few more months. Get elected and praised despite the fact they extended the entire affair for their own benefit.
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>>1374798 >More baseless conspiracy theories Shut up already
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>>1374798 That’s speculation on your part. But like I give a shit. If it ends the war, then it ends the war and is good for everyone involved. Why are you so bent out of shape about this?
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>>1374801 people don't like liars. why are you so bent out of shape over being called out as one
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>>1374802 What did I lie about?
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>>1374801 Because 1. That's causing the hostages to spend a few more months in hamas custody for political points, and 2. if the only reason it went through was to get kickbacks from us, the ceasefire probably isn't going to last for very long.
Oh and 3. it gets Trump elected on false pretenses because the actual deal was made by Biden and Trump just delayed it for a few months. Again, the same thing Reagan and Nixon did.
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>>1374800 Yeah anon because it makes so much more sense that Trump heroically swooped in and solved an issue we've been actively negotiating for the last year and a half in 24 hours. Obviously Biden negotiating with them for, you know, a year and a half meant nothing.
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>>1374804 1. If Trump wanted more political points for rescuing the hostages, he would have held off until after he was sworn into office and Biden was out so that Biden couldn’t pretend like he deserved all the credit his farewell address.
2. Maybe I don’t know. But both sides of this conflict have to be offered something in order for them to agree to stop fighting. How else is a ceasefire supposed to be negotiated?
3. The top issue for voters of this election was the economy. I don’t even think Palestine was important enough to Americans to make it on the list, and you think it helped him get elected? And I’m not familiar with this Reagan and Nixon story you keep bringing up. Got any sources to back up your version of history?
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>>1374806 >3. The top issue for voters of this election was the economy. I don’t even think Palestine was important enough to Americans to make it on the list, and you think it helped him get elected? And I’m not familiar with this Reagan and Nixon story you keep bringing up. Got any sources to back up your version of history? True, but it was still a pretty close thing. While there weren't that many people who swung their votes over Gaza, it did drive down enthusiasm, especially in the activists (online and IRL) who'd typically be out spreading the message. Less energy = less turnout. The handling of Gaza was probably one of the most retarded things Biden did, only outdone by running when Trump was projected by internal polls to beat him by 538/138 electorally. Well, elections won't matter anymore. I think all the Dem politicians will be rotting in camps by the end of this year.
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>>1374805 It does actually. Biden is a demented old man who can’t think straight half the time. It’s an insult and outright disrespectful to the Palestinians and the Israelis that this was the man trying to broker peace between them. And it’s no wonder why his efforts produced nothing.
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>>1374807 >Well, elections won't matter anymore. I think all the Dem politicians will be rotting in camps by the end of this year. And thank god for that. The day that I can stop paying attention to politics can't come soon enough. Tucker was doing interviews of Russian people a while back about politics, and all of them were like IDGAF stop asking me. That the Russian people have that much trust in their government, where they have the privilege not to give a fuck is envious. That they can all come together as one behind one party and don't have to concern themselves with a wrong choice is phenomenal. I wish the US was the same way.
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>>1374737 What makes you think trump's golfing buddy talked to hamas?
Article specifically mentions jews. Which is infinitely more believable when you consdier execution/hostage risks.
It doesn't matter if one side is prepared to negociate with regards to swapping hostages. You need both sides to agree not to fight to actually stop the war. In this case you've both sides that wants to genocide the other. Both with a long history of scores to settle, and one with some recent ones... I know you likely don't consider either side human, but I assure you they are, and I encourage you to consider, should there be a country over that's just bombed your parents, children, or friends, how eager would you be to stop fighting?
>I'm definitely not going to sit around for another 4 years while he just continues shitting on my dick That's exaclty what you're going to do - in fact, you'll go one better and pay him for the privlidge by the way of taxes.
>Fuck you all I hope god sends in more hurricanes earthquake wildfire and floods. I wouldn't put much faith in your invisible skyperson to achieve anything. But you can take solice in the fact they'll do worse to themselves if left to their own devices.
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>>1374801 >Why are you so bent out of shape about this? It's not ending the war.
Israel wants greater Israel, which means taking Syria and Egypt. They've been trying to do this shit for sixty years. Which means they will probably try again in the coming decades. Trump is merely taking credit for Israel deciding to settle on turning Gaza into a rubble pit and bombing Damascus.
You need to start asking yourself why Israel, after the most pro-Israel president won the election, has decided to end the war prematurely. Both Republicans and Democrats support Israel 110%. The only major difference is that 50% of dems constituency believe Israel is committing genocide.
Israel has only managed to exist as a state, despite all its terrorist shenanigans, because it has the unwavering support of the US congress. Nothing has changed on that front. They will simply wait a few decades until people forget before waging more war.
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>>1374811 >It’s not ending the war. Who cares. Israel wants to genocide Palestinians for greater Israel, and Hamas wants to genocide the Jews because the hadith tells them to. So it’s never going to end. At least not the way you want it to. It’s stupid to think that possible. The best anyone can hope for is temporary reprieve and to avoid getting pissed on next time they get into another pissing contest.
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>>1374693 >Trump makes peace in the middle east >Hamas(s) makes a pig's ass of things That aged well, Trumptards. No Nobel Peace Prize for you, Don Old Fart. Jimmy Carter got one, though. You never will, Trumpy.
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>>1374795 >>1374796 Weird how these two shitposters keep trying to gaslight people and shape the narrative themselves.
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https://www.axios.com/2025/01/16/biden-trump-gaza-ceasefire-hostage-deal >Behind the scenes: The final sprint in the negotiations took place at a Qatari government official residence. Hamas representatives were on the first floor with the Israelis on the second and the Qatari and Egyptian mediators shuttling between them. > Negotiations dragged on until 3am each night and resumed in the morning after a few hours of sleep, a U.S. official said. > Issue after issue was closed: The redeployment of Israeli forces; what Hamas must do during the ceasefire; the delivery of humanitarian aid; the sequencing of hostage and prisoner releases. > On Wednesday morning, Hamas raised three new demands, according to a U.S. official. "We had to flex a muscle to get them to back off, and we did," the official said. >That afternoon local time, Hamas came back for a meeting with the Qatari and Egyptian mediators and gave its official positive response. "Only then we were sure we have a deal," the U.S. official said. > The Qatari prime minister made the announcement: "We saw two U.S. administrations working together... what the U.S. did led to this moment." > Next, Netanyahu called Trump and thanked him for his help in getting the deal. Only then did he call to thank Biden. Anonymous
>>1374812 >Who cares. Smart people do.
The reason why America became involved in Afghanistan after 9/11 was because Israel tricked us to purge the region of their adversaries.
They literally used the lives of our servicemen and our economy to fund their blood vendetta against sandpeople. That should piss you off.
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>>1374813 What type of cope is this lmao you people are weird
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>>1374817 Other people can't cope over your headcanon. Only you can.
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>According to the officials, Trump’s envoy achieved more in one discussion to influence the prime minister than outgoing President Joe Biden had managed throughout the year.
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>>1374819 Whatever you need to tell yourself to make you feel better is fine.
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>>1374820 >Whatever you need to tell yourself Nobody has to tell themselves anything they can just read the article
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>>1374819 and I'm sure this has nothing to do with Trump's rampaging ego that forces him to make a full caps truth social post every time Biden does anything.
Might as well appeal to the retard if you're gonna be dealing with him for 4 years.
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>>1374823 Sure, whatever helps you cope anon
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Lefties are absolutely fucking mindbroken over this one. Pedo Joe and his sleepy croonies couldn't do shit for 15 months and used 4 vetoes to keep the genocide going, and that shit got sorted out on Trump's first meeting.
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>>1374816 C'mon jack. Oil, and US hegemony have as much influence as the pretend semites. As to tRump or any US politician contributing to m. East peace, haha.
Anonymous
>>1374693 Trump already stopped a genocide and he isn't even president yet.
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Imagine it. You're working on your last big deal for your company before you retire. It's taken a whole year of negotiation, but you finally managed to make terms that all parties agree to. You bring a representative of your successor to the final meeting to make sure they're in the loop about everything when they take over and don't fuck it up. It finally goes through.
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>>1374828 >> The Qatari prime minister made the announcement: "We saw two U.S. administrations working together... what the U.S. did led to this moment." >>1374829 Trump is also taking credit for Red No. 5 being banned.
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>>1374829 Nice headcanon
"According to the officials, Trump’s envoy achieved more in one discussion to influence the prime minister than outgoing President Joe Biden had managed throughout the year."
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>>1374832 According to a single paragraph with no word from the actual people who signed the deal. Meanwhile the Qatari prime minster said it was both, so who do you believe?
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>>1374828 >Trump already stopped a genocide >US cruise missiles launched at Syria in 2017 That aged well
No Nobel Peace Prize for you, Don Old.
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>>1374816 Sure, ok. Now what do you propose we do about it? That we now side with the sandpeople to get back at them, and allow ourselves to get tricked into letting them use our servicemen and economy to fund their blood vendetta in return. You behave like there’s only two possible options here: either you support greater Israel, or you support the greater caliphate. How about neither? I think the real smart people will not get pissed off and keep a cool head about it, and realize that the best course of action is to not get involved.
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>>1374834 Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize for drone striking ragheads, why can’t Trump?
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>>1374837 That isn't why Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize
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>>1374838 Must have been for that time he had american citizens murdered without due process then.
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>>1374837 >>1374839 Unlike Jimmy Carter, that orange retard will never get the Nobel Peace Prize.
Good ...or that thing would have gotten one before now.
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>>1374843 Yeah this shit sucks but the kid's dad was a terrorist leader and he was actively with another one. Collateral more than anything.
Anonymous
>>1374845 That’s assuming if it was collateral and not deliberate to send a message to the terrorist world.
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>>1374846 Considering they were aiming for a different leader, probably just collateral.
Anonymous
>>1374845 Doesn't matter. The dude was an American citizen guaranteed the protections of the American government. That was an extrajudicial slaying of a US citizen by his own government.
Obama should have just sent in rangers or seals or whatever to arrest the dude and let them shoot him if he tries to resist or get violent rather than assassinating a US citizen
Anonymous
>>1374847 Considering that the government is capable of lying and routinely does so, you still might want to take what they say with a grain of salt.
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>>1374849 Ok then I guess the actual al-quaeda leader at the site of the strike was just collateral to sniping this one fuckass 16 year old.
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>>1374848 How was he supposed to know he was there?
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>>1374848 The dude wasn't an American citizen anymore the moment he joined Al Qaeda.
>>1374849 They weren't lying about the Al Qaeda leader and his son being terrorists.
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One way or the other, we all know the reason he got the prize was for doing thing while being black.
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Biden Ruins Middle East Peace Deal in last week in office
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>>1374850 The al-quaeda guy they claimed to be targeting wasn’t even there and he’s still wanted with a bounty on his head to this day. So either intelligence is retarded, or the kid was the target the whole time.
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>>1374856 >hm, yeah. Let's drone strike this one 16 year old. This is a completely valid use of resources. Just because the dude might've survived doesn't mean he wasn't there lol. We're still not sure if he's dead or not.
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>>1374835 >Now what do you propose we do about it? Remove politicians with duel-citizenship from congress.
Remove ourselves from the middle-east.
Let the jews and the arabs fight amongst themselves.
This gay false dichotomy of "you're either with us or against us" only exists in the minds of faggots who have a financial stake in the region. Sacrificing our kids to fight gay wars in the ME, which then comes back to bite us in the ass at home, is in none of our interest.
The entire reason why arabs are flooding the western world is because Israel can't stop fucking with regional politics with the help of the USA.
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>>1374854 Trump will will be the one to undo all of obongo’s legacy, and the only thing people will remember him for is being a gay nigga.
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>>1374857 US drones always kill their target. That’s why we’re the best!
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>>1374693 Do Republicans not know that if this was true, Trump would be in violation of the Logan Act?
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>>1374875 He's been violating that law like he's keeping it as a sex slave. He'll never face consequences.
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>>1374876 i love president biff tannen
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>>1374693 Everyone making this headline news and acting like it's a revolution when 1)i couldn't give a fuck about some shit thousands of miles away from me and doesn't affect me, and 2) these mlinferior people have been fighting for 60 years.
Celebrating this cease fire is like celebrating the 80th time your house has stopped burning while never realising there is a leaky gas valve in the basement causing this every time.
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>>1374878 it's just republicans getting ready to claim victory for isolationist and appeasement policies that will spur the next global war
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>>1374875 That’s retarded. How is this a violation of the Logan Act? Trump is the president elect and will be president in a few more days.
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>>1374880 The president-elect does not have the powers of the presidency until he is sworn in. It's also very likely that Trump was in communication with Netanyahu before he became president-elect.
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>>1374881 but when you control the majority of the media and have a team of billionaires feeding you carrots it doesn't really matter
Anonymous
>>1374881 >An incoming president can't talk to --ANYBODY-- about his planned policies until he's sworn in stfu retard
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>>1374885 He clearly did more than talk considering he apparently brokered an entire peace deal.
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>>1374881 Laws are interpreted by judges, and any judge would see your interpretation of the Logan Act as stupid. The purpose of the Logan Act is to bar some literally-who legislator from negotiating deals with foreign government without the executive branch’s approval. Trump is going to be the head of the executive branch, so he’s the one solely responsible for negotiating with foreign governments. Even if he’s president-elect that doesn’t matter. He has the presidency, it’s been certified by your cuck-queen kamala harris, everything else is just a formality.
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So many lefties having melties it's like grilled cheese in here
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>>1374888 at this rate you'll drown in your own lies before the year is up
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>>1374887 >any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States The president-elect does not have the authority of the United States until he becomes president. Otherwise, Trump could issue his tariffs or pardons as soon as he became president-elect back in November. Why wait until January?
Anonymous
>>1374889 Lmao what sort of weird cope is this? At least on this board you people have been nonstop sources of misinformation and lies.
Idk what the strawmen are like in your head tho, maybe it's a bit different up there
Anonymous
>>1374891 well enjoy being retarded i guess
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>>1374890 Anon, I don't think anyone interprets "without authority of the United States" to apply to the president elect except you and the other short term memory outrage peons.
US presidents regularly talk with world leaders before they are actually sworn in to communicate with them, and just like this you can argue that these communications influence foreign officials. That's the whole reason people have them is to communicate things like policy intentions so that the other governments can plan accordingly.
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>>1374892 I understand Trump's success angers you but you really should try to be more objective
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>>1374895 he's successful at getting rhetorical head from you, i admit that
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>>1374890 You’re autistic insistence that the letter of the law must be followed in this obvious grey area is stupid. You can try to prosecute Trump for it, but won’t get anywhere because any judge would just ignore your autistic-ass. Why do you want to punish Donald Trump over this anyway? He did a good thing, did he not? Shows what kind of person you are if you wanna punish a man for doing good. Evil I’d say.
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>>1374899 letting israel expand is good to pol now?
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>>1374896 >getting rhetorical head Lol. Whatever helps you get your rage boner, I guess.
You do you but leave me out of your weird fantasies
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>>1374901 you being a dumb faggot isn't a fantasy
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>>1374893 Telling foreign governments of your policy plans is not the same as trying to influence them or writing up entire peace deals.
>>1374899 >Why do you want to punish Donald Trump over this anyway? He did a good thing, did he not Because I don't think he did it. It was the Biden admin who got most of it done, seeing as how it's almost identical to the peace deal made earlier in the year.
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>>1374902 Oh man you're homoerotic and schizophrenic.
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>>1374900 This is /news/ sir not /pol/. And I would say negotiating a ceasefire and stoping the killing for a time being is good thing, and I don’t see how that has anything to do with isreal expanding.
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>>1374903 >Telling foreign governments of your policy plans is not the same as trying to influence them or writing up entire peace deals I'm fairly certain Trump has plainly stated that, "there will be hell to pay" if there is not peace by the time he is sworn in.
You don't actually know what went on here, you were just trying to find something to be angry about because apparently the prospect of having Trump in office is motivating peace a lot quicker than another term of Biden or Harris would have played out
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>>1374904 sure, i guess, whatever stops your insatiable obsequience for your orange god. you ever listen to yourself?
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>>1374905 It doesn't matter I'm extremely angry that Trump stole Biden's thunder and was able to make progress here when Biden couldn't, Trump had no legal authority to do this and it's extremely angering that he not only broke the law but worst of all he made Biden look bad
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>>1374908 that's all trump has done for the past 70 years desu
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>>1374905 you're right, /news/ is the smaller of the right wing schizo boards. and that last sentence of yours is laughable. were you all just bots the entire time then?
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>>1374906 I'm not really angry about it. I just find funny that Trump is bragging about something that would technically be illegal. I don't think he should be prosecuted for it either.
>motivating peace a lot quicker than another term of Biden or Harris would have played out We don't really know what would have happened for certain. But considering Trump is willing to use military force to achieve his objectives in other countries, we're just trading a far-away war for a closer one.
>>1374908 There's no need to falseflag here.
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>>1374910 Would a bot be able to say the word nigger-faggot? I don’t think so.
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>>1374890 >correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States >in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States Hey, faggot, he was negotiating peace between Israel and Hamas.
America isn't it war and this is not their conflict in case you are just completely mentally handicapped.
Any US citizen can go to any country they want in the world and talk to their leaders about conflicts that country is having with another country.
This is not America's conflict, this is between Israel and Hamas and you are now utterly ass-blasted with facts.
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>>1374913 >lots of mention of ass and faggots yep, we got a russian boys
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>>1374913 The US is an ally of Israel and is sending them weapons. Clearly they are involved in the conflict, hence why the Biden admin was managing the peace deal in the first place.
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>>1374914 Typical "I give up, you're right" post from the leftshits who frequent this board
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I'll state it as possible to every lefty having a melty in this thread.
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>>1374917 you can lie about whatever you like regarding your posts. please don't lie about the content of mine sir shill
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>>1374921 your post is another example of "you're right I give up" being said in leftspeak
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>>1374936 you shouldn't give up at learning english, then this wouldn't happen
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>>1374937 You can stop telling me how much you've given up and I'm right. I get it.
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>>1374953 you can't stop posting because you can't get a better job
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>>1374964 you'd think after all these months of constant spamming here you'd know what a text only board is. i'm not clicking that shit loser
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>>1374919 >>1374936 >>1374953 >thinks it's right >no body you yourself proved you're always wrong. Thus your opinions are eternally wrong. Are MAGAtards declaring their cult leader a traitor for Musk wanting millions of Indians with H1B visas, Trump agrees don't bother him about it, wrong? We'll see how correct their opinions are in the next midterms when they get their revenge by not voting Republican and Trump is a lame duck president. As he was previously or he would have won in 2020.
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>>1375236 >As he was previously or he would have won in 2020. This recent election proved the 2020 election was a sham and rigged for Biden, so jot that down
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>>1375236 I kind of feel like Republicans have a better chance of winning the midterms and keeping control of Congress than you think. Since there’s a lot of Californians right who are pissed off that their homes burned down because Democrats couldn’t be bothered to do basic shit to mitigate this disaster everyone saw coming. And if their anger over that exceeds their hatred of Trump, then they might just vote Republican, or not at all. Here’s hoping though.
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>>1375236 doesn't matter they'd rather vote for him then the party of regresives that try to murder them.
Trump will stay in power forever because you will be dead in 2 years.
>you yourself proved you're always wrong. why are leftists such narcassistic losers, reee you all lost you just don't know about it ignore that i'm threatening the world at gunpoint to vote for me or you're a nazi.
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>>1375319 >claiming someone else is a 'loser' >>1375319 You tell me:
>narcassistic losers >narcassistic When English becomes your first language.
>regresives Well, the likes of you are when you're too retarded to know how to spell properly. The retarded are educationally inferior.
>Trump thinks Kansas City is in Kansas QED.
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>>1375327 >grammar nazism >reee you lost you just don't know about it hardcore denial >EOP EOP I"M A PROUD EOP get real you subhuman retard. you lost and you're going to fucking die screeching like a batshit karen.
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>>1375329 >grammar >can't tell the difference between spelling and grammar Further proof that you are educationally inferior.
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>>1375332 you're an uneducated loser who can't argue for their life and thinks ESL ESL is an argument when your own english is fcking grade school shit. what a fucking gullible retard you are no wonder you bought into the far-left cult thoughts
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>>1375343 >you're an uneducated loser >narcassistic >regresives >thinks >>1375343 lacks the ability to think.
