Trump is try again working on fixing another one of America's problems.
8 cartels have been officially designated as terrorist organizations.
This will likely positively impact Mexico, where cartels are the fifth largest employer in their country, and negatively impact the Democrats, who not only rely on these cartels to smuggle illegals and fentanyl into the county, but are also absolutely furious that trump is taking steps towards fixing America's problems
https://www.newsweek.com/cartels-terrorist-organizations-designation-state-department-2033297 Here Are The Cartels the State Department Declared Terrorist Organizations
The United States Department of State branded eight cartels and criminal gangs as terrorist organizations on Wednesday, including Tren de Aragua and MS-13.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio wrote in a declaration entered into the Federal Register that there was enough evidence to change the definition of the groups, known for human smuggling, drug trafficking, and acts of violence against immigrants and American citizens.
Why It Matters
Designating cartels as terrorist groups will make it easier for the U.S. to use military force against them. It would put the groups in the same category as the Taliban and Hamas—extremist groups that the U.S. and its allies have gone to war with.
President Donald Trump ran for reelection on the promise of getting tough on border security, including tackling the criminal gangs known to have penetrated the U.S.-Mexico border, and said these groups were the main driver of illicit fentanyl into the country.
The move by the Department of State comes after an executive order signed by President Trump shortly after his inauguration, branding Mexican cartels as Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTO).
Tren de Aragua (TdA), Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), Cartel de Sinaloa, Cartel de Jalisco Nueva Generacion, Carteles Unidos, Cartel del Noreste, Cartel del Golfo, and La Nueva Familia Michoacana are all now deemed FTOs.
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Members of the Venezuelan group TdA have been linked to numerous serious and violent crimes within the U.S. over the past year, including the murders of Georgia nursing student Laken Riley and 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungaray. The group also hit the headlines in the summer for its presence in Aurora, Colorado, where members targeted other Venezuelan migrants at apartment buildings in the city. The story became one of Trump's key examples of transnational criminal gangs, and he branded his plan for mass deportations as Operation Aurora as a result. MS-13, meanwhile, has plagued U.S. law enforcement for many more years, with drug trafficking one of the major crimes linked to its members—some high-ranking—who have illegally entered and remained north of the border. The group was born out of Los Angeles, with a strong presence in El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala. Mexican groups Sinaloa and Jalisco are both known for their involvement in human and drug smuggling across the U.S.-Mexico border, including the exploitation of immigrants trying to make their way through the Central American country. They are also known for their brutal tactics against their own members and rivals The other four—Carteles Unidos, Cartel del Noreste (CDN), Cartel del Golfo, and La Nueva Familia Michoacana all originate in different parts of Mexico. All are known for their links to similar crimes of drug smuggling, extortion, and violent attacks against police and military personnel. Branding these groups as FTOs allows the U.S. government to maneuver military forces against them, but also means any migrant who pays a smuggling or ransom fee to one of the groups could be seen as supporting their efforts and be prosecuted by the U.S.
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>>1385550 >This will likely positively impact Mexico, where cartels are the fifth largest employer in their country, and negatively impact the Democrats, who not only rely on these cartels to smuggle illegals and fentanyl into the county, but are also absolutely furious that trump is taking steps towards fixing America's problems Source?
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Experts previously told Newsweek that Americans living in Mexico could also become targets as the groups retaliate against the new FTO designation. Other immigration efforts to stop the flow of people across the southwest border could also be negatively impacted, one expert said, as the U.S. could not realistically send immigrants back into the grip of terrorists. What People Are Saying Vanda Felbab-Brown, director of the Initiative on Nonstate Armed Actors at the Brookings Institute, told Newsweek: "The FTO designation does more than just allow military strikes—presidents have launched attacks without it, like against the Houthis in Yemen. Instead, it expands the U.S. military's intelligence-gathering abilities and helps prosecutors target a wider range of cartel associates, including logistics staff, money launderers, and hit men's supervisors. However, using FTO designations and tariff threats as leverage will only work if Trump demands the right actions from Mexico. "However, cartels will likely adapt. We may see them increasing their control over legal economies in Mexico, such as extractive industries and retail. Yet, this also raises issues—the Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) designations and material support clauses mean that any legal business paying extortion fees to cartels, even unknowingly or under duress, could face legal consequences. This could have a chilling effect on trade and investment between the U.S. and Mexico."
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Jason Blazakis, a former counterterrorism official, on X: "Very interesting on MS-13 given it was founded in the U.S. and State Dept hasn't designated a group with such a clear U.S. nexus before." Doug Livermore, an expert with the Atlantic Council, said in January: "It is unlikely that such groups would passively absorb U.S. attacks... Cartels are highly likely to retaliate both preemptively and reactively." What's Next The FTO order will go into effect fully on Thursday, February 20. It is not yet clear what action the U.S. will take as a result.
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>>1385550 ok so... what does this accomplish exactly?
>Oh but we can do military actions against them! They're in another country. We're not gonna be able to do shit without working with the mexican government anyways. And they likely would've approved the exact same thing maneuvers anyway since they want the cartels gone just as much as we do, if not more.
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>>1385555 >ok so... what does this accomplish exactly Try reading the article. If your eyeballs melt or explode and you don't catch the discussion on what this accomplishes, go ahead and ask again and I'll spoon feed it to you
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>>1385556 If you combine every single branch of every cartel active in mexico, yeah that would be a lot of people. This is like saying "oh if you combine every single criminal organization in the US, they're one of the largest employers!".
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>>1385558 I literally don't care what your latest cope is. I'm right, your wrong, cope, seethe, get buttmangled etc etc
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>>1385557 Yeah so... it says this can make military actions against them easier. Like for fucks sake, they were already seen as dangerous gangs in the eyes of law enforcement, so it wasn't like they weren't doing anything about people with connections to them before.
What's an actual concrete benefit to this? It just seems like a headline and showboating. Equivalent to a bunch of Trump's other migrant related shit where he makes it a crime for illegals to do things they already could not legally do.
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>>1385560 >Yeah so... it says this can make military actions against them easier Your eyeballs actually melted didn't they? Okay, I'll spoon feed it to you.
>"The FTO designation does more than just allow military strikes—presidents have launched attacks without it, like against the Houthis in Yemen. Instead, it expands the U.S. military's intelligence-gathering abilities and helps prosecutors target a wider range of cartel associates, including logistics staff, money launderers, and hit men's supervisors. Anonymous
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>>1385560 >>1385558 >>1385555 I got to say champ, I got exactly what I voted for and it feels pretty good right about now.
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>>1385561 Ok and they couldn't do this before... why? It's not like being part of a dangerous gang wasn't already a crime that would've gotten you charges.
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>>1385578 Oh damn your right! Being designated a foreign terrorist organization by the US government means nothing, let's just let Mexico continue handling the issue.
Lol yeah right
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>>1385555 >they want the cartels gone just as much as we do, if not more. source? Cartel corruption runs deep. Mexican cartels controlled their equivalent of the CIA and Colombian cartels once funded a presidential campaign. If Mexico truly wanted the cartels gone, they would have asked the US for military support long ago.
Even if Mexico really wants them gone, designating them as terrorists is a step toward allowing us to use military force against them.
nice quads though.
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>>1385585 Mexico has an issue with cartels paying off elected leaders. They've have instances of the cartel murdering elected officials who don't want to accept bribes.
I'm sure many officials in Mexico don't want the cartel there, but their only option is to shut up and collect a bribe, if any of them were to reach out or authorize US help, they would just get murdered .
This is actually pretty great because none of the elected officials in Mexico need to take a position and the full weight of the US intelligence apparatus can come down on every cartel member, drug trafficker, and murderer
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>>1385550 TDS contrarians will spin themselves into a noose trying to oppose this.
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>>1385585 >>1385586 >But the cartels bribe mexican leaders! Ok and what are we supposed to do in that case with this? Invade and occupy mexico like we did in the middle east the last few decades? Like let's say "we want to have an anti-terrorist raid against these cartels" and then mexican officials are bribed to say "no". What do you do then? Go in anyway and risk an international incident with one of our closest and main trade partners?
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>>1385597 >Ok and what are we supposed to do in that case with this? Invade and occupy mexico like we did in the middle east the last few decades? Nope.
Take out the cartel.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised that once the entire American IC is focusing on this we end up rounding up a few Democrat politicians from California and New Mexico as well
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>>1385597 >Like let's say "we want to have an anti-terrorist raid against these cartels" and then mexican officials are bribed to say "no". What do you do then? Bro, the Mexican politicians have zero say in what we do.
The sand people we were drone striking before barely had any sort of digital footprint and we were still sniffing them out.
These are organizations with digital infrastructure operating with at the very least, cell phones in the western hemisphere.
Cartel family leaders are going to be either raided with military or hit with drones, and honestly I think the Mexican president would support (at the minimum) military raids against their compounds.
I mean, holy shit. Trump is besties with Israel, which I don't like, but I would not be surprised if Israels IC supports trump in this effort and we start seeing reports of cell phones exploding in the pockets of drug dealers
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>>1385607 Mexico is a neighbor and a primary trade partner of the US. Countries don't tend to like military actions being taken within their borders by foreign militaries without their consent.
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>>1385609 >"honestly I think the Mexican president would support (at the minimum) military raids against their compounds." That was in my post. I know reading is hard for you but I thought I should point that out
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>>1385610 Literally both of the posts I originally replied too were talking about storming in and doing this regardless of mexico's own consent on the matter, under the logic of "oh they're corrupt and should've asked anyways". You can support hitting the cartels while also not wanting indiscriminate US drone strikes in your country. Because spoiler alert; those never just kill evil people.
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>>1385612 >Literally both of the posts I originally replied too were talking about storming in and doing this regardless of mexico's own consent on the matter Sounds to me like you just can't read. Pretty typical for you TDS folk
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>>1385612 Apparently Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum is already working with Trump on this whole terrorist thing..
She's been authorizing the CIA to fly drone flights throughout Mexico since last week to begin gathering surveillance on them.
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Did military intervention get rid of Hamas, the Taliban, ISIS, etc? No. This is not a military problem that requires a military solution, its a socio-economic problem. Its just going to make the cartels work together, get harder to track and modernize. If you take down one cartel, another one will take its place, because by the end of the day, the US drug demand is the largest in the world. Even if you completely block drugs supply from Mexico, the US will get it from somewhere else, because demand isn't decreasing. The US keeps arming the cartles with military grade weapons doesnt help either. It would't surprise me if the US gives up after some months. Also the chance of attacking an innocent settlement or killing innocent civilians is very possible and will damage relations. Also, if the US declares war on cartels and damage them, I would suspect the cartels would fire back inside the US, difficult to say in what way. They're not going to play fair and may even take american vips hostages in both countries. Im not defending cartels. I personally despise crime and narcoculture. But lets be realistic. This isnt the solution.
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>>1385596 It's already happening:
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>>1385658 >Noooo, don't point out a logical flaw with this idea! We cannot combat the cartel through force alone. It can help but we need to address the fact there is more demand here than there is where they are.
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>>1385671 >NOOOOOOOoooooOOOOO!!!! >I haven't been given all the classified details of the plan so I cannot support it!!! Whatever. You're probably a California Democrat worried about your cartel election funds.
Shut your whore lips, queer.
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>>1385671 >We cannot combat the cartel through force alone I agree, a large a large part of this battle is going to be gathering intelligence and rooting out everyone working with the cartel.
Good thing the entire American intelligence community can focus on it now.
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>>1385629 >to begin gathering surveillance on them. Remember when Trump thought the movie Sicario 2 was real?
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>>1385675 >Remember when Trump thought the movie Sicario 2 was real? No, and I googled it, and I literally don't give a single fuck about something vanity fare speculated about.
It's going to be a long 4 years for you champ as trump makes America great again. Better buckle up and put on your retard helmet.
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>>1385673 No jackass. You need to address why they're able to make so much money in the first place. But instead we'll just throw more drug dealers in prison and ignore how there'll always be two more willing to do the same because we do nothing about how many addicts there are. The demand will still be there even if the cartels are wiped out to the last man, which means someone else will come to fill the void.
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>>1385680 >You need to address why they're able to make so much money in the first place Because Democrat states like New Mexico and California let them smuggle in drugs
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>>1385680 >But instead we'll just throw more drug dealers in prison Why wouldn't we throw the leaders of global terrorist organizations into our prisons? Maybe gitmo.
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The American left is literally so mind broken at this point that they are sticking up for the cartel now. They are upset that a group of gangs which murders people, sex traffics, bribes politicians, and get Americans addicted to fentanyl are being targeted by trump It's sad, really. I wish these were the reasonable people of 20 years ago, but here we are with 40% of Americans aligning with the cartel because they simply want to disagree with trump
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>>1385688 I'm seeing less "sticking up for the cartel" and more "this literally does nothing". But hey Repubs applaud every time Trump declares it a crime for illegals to do something they already cannot legally do, so I'm not surprised by the republican reaction.
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>>1385692 >this literally does nothing Lol yeah I'm sure that sentiment is rooted in reality.
I hope your drug dealer doesn't work with the cartel
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>>1385692 >this literally does nothing Hey since where on the topic of "strategies that do nothing" what do you think about the San Francisco and Seattle strategies of "allow public drug use" and "order the DA to stop prosecuting drug crimes"?
Because those really did nothing. Or maybe they did the opposite of nothing, because both of those cities had their drug addicted homeless populations explode after that strategy was attempted
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>>1385694 >Cartels are... le bad! >We're going to crack down on them for... crimes! Anonymous
>>1385694 >Cartels are... le bad! >We're going to crack down on them for... crimes! Oh boy I sure do hope next Trump declares this whole murder thing to be illegal, then follows it up by saying people who steal will be considered thieves.
It's all performative to get retards like you celebrating the equivalent of saying "crime is now illegal!".
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>>1385698 Are you having a melty?
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>>1385698 >Guys, it's just being designated as a global terrorist organization by the United States, the country with the largest military and intelligence apparatus in the world, it's literally no big deal the technical term for this is "denial" and it is the first phase of grief. Democrats are legitimately sad and grief-striken that trump is doing so much to benefit America.
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Jesus Christ died for our sins and rose from the dead to give us the free gift of eternal life in heaven and promised to heal your body. Just Look up and ask Him.
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>>1385702 You're acting like we weren't already against the cartel. But keep clapping for the show, it helps you not notice the guy picking your pockets.
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>>1385635 It is indeed more of internal thing to mexico, cartels are basically mainstream culture there, killing a couple of them may not do much of anything
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>>1385604 Oh just take out the cartel huh? Like we did with the Taliban? God damn rightwingers are stupid.
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>>1385711 >>1385706 Cartel shills are pissed.
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>>1385711 >Like we did with the Taliban When you chaps fought the Taliban it was literal sand people half way across the world who didn't even have cell phones. You still succeeded in decimating their leadership and funding.
These people are in your neck of the woods and have digital footprints and online identities that can be tracked.
This is an interesting development that will likely result in top cartel leaders being taken out as well
As I examine this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups I see that most of the organizations the US has designated as terrorist organizations shown as being dissolved a few years after this designation.
Although I also noticed unexpectedly that it shows Japan had designed the Azov Battalion as a terrorist organization for 2 years and I wonder if that's real
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Why would Democrats have such a pissy fit over stopping cartels? Remember when the Obama administration was actively arming them?
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>>1385720 >Like we did with the Taliban >You still succeeded in decimating their leadership and funding. You seem to be an an English as a second language. The Anon was being sarcastic. Fred tRump posts from hell
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>>1385702 >Democrats are legitimately sad and grief-striken that trump is doing so much to benefit America. LOSER, LOOSER,LOOOOOOOSER
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>>1385746 How does making a list stop anything?
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>>1385751 You really have no idea what happens when the state department designates a terrorist organization, do you?
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>>1385711 Afghan vet here, we pretty much did take out the Taliban - or at least take them out of the country as they found refuge in Pakistan where we weren't allowed to engage them because the Pakis were/are our """allies""".
Then we got into this stupid business of "nation building" and pissed away trillions (literally) of dollars trying to modernize and democratize a nation full of people that could barely understand the concept of electricity, and ended up turning the rest of the population into future terrorists when we told them to grow food instead of opium.
In a straight-up fight the Taliban doesn't stand a chance, especially after Trump became the first president to use MOABs and let them know we weren't fucking around. Unfortunately, this war ended similar to Vietnam where we had no more motivation to keep feeding troops and money into a conflict with no end in sight, for a bunch of people who didn't want us there.
Trump recognized this and tried to get us out of there during his term. Unfortunately (again), he was backstabbed by that fucking traitor Milley who told him it couldn't be done and worked with the state department and SecDef to convince him to back down and abandon his attempts in 2018 and 2020. Ironically, this same fuck would backstab Biden in later testimonies when the evac became a fucking fiasco and 13 soldiers got blown up (not to absolve Biden, he was responsible for letting out the bomber that did it).
tl;dr the Taliban just exists for the same reason the Vietcong existed. Only limited, small-scale attacks could be done in countries we weren't at war with.
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>>1385751 Well, I'll just help you out anyways
It's a pretty nasty "list" to get your name on, it's a lot more than just an additional random id check at the airport.
Anyone who is a member of the organization has all their financial assets frozen, and transactions blocked.
The intelligence community is authorized to use digital surveillance techniques that are otherwise considered illegal.
Any American citizens who are found to be working with terrorist organizations lose their privacy rights and are subject to the same intelligence gathering techniques.
The CIA, NSA, and the US military get involved (in the case of cartels, the only orgs would have been FBI and possibly CBP or other law enforcement)
In the case of the US, FVEY gets involved as well. In the case of Donald Trump, Israel will probably pitch in.
There is quite often military operations against the terrorist organizations and their members to disrupt operations and hierarchy. Depending on the host country, sometimes this is without their nations consent (I suspect with Mexico we will continue to coordinate with their country as we have been)
This is the type of shit that will literally get one of those ginsu bombs dropped on your Cadillac Escalade
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As a Mexican this is a good thing. The CIA and the Democrats literally gave them weapons (Fast and Furious OP) - Criminal activity is reaching an all-time high, and that's the one thing Sheinbaum can't try to hide away, if she refuses help from the American government, even if it's Trump, she's going to get ostracized by the general population because the narrative is that every level of government is corrupt, including her. It just wouldn't fly with Mexicans. On that note, I fully expect Sheinbaum to comply, although I'm unsure how actual operations will be carried out. The cartels are honestly very well organized but their military prowess is greatly exaggerated. Their logistic networks are impressive, and they're definitely more 'high-tech' and 'internationally-connected' than one might initially guess - But ultimately they have never had to deal with a real military group. The Mexican military has always been corrupt enough to give them 'heads up' or obfuscate their ties from the public, so it's not realistic to suppose the Mexican military will be in any way similar to American troops. Honestly, they could drone bomb them like the Ukrainians do to the Russians and I don't think they'd have the slightest way of fighting back. I will say, cartels are a hydra. Cut head and it grows a body. AMLO and Morena have the 'right idea' colluding with one big cartel in order to consolidate the drug market and reduce violence, the problem is that past administrations have created a lot hydras, and they're ready to fight against the government's cartel for US distribution. To me, it seems more likely that the US, Mexico, and one lucky cartel will get to make a deal, and the rest will be disposed off in a heavily controversial, but flashy and heavily mediatic series of military operations.
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>>1385826 >I fully expect Sheinbaum to comply I expect this too. She's already stated publicly that she's been allowing the CIA to fly surveillance drones within the country for the last 1.5 weeks now. It really is in her best interest to allow the United states to claw back power from the cartel and place it back into Mexican hands
I don't think we will be seeing much, if any, traditional drone strikes or kamikaze drone attacks. I think a lot of this will resolve around military raids on cartel facilities, disrupting their distribution and manufacturing infrastructure and potentially the occasional ginsu bomb, but I kinda doubt the latter.
I also suspect there will be a lot of cartel people being incarcerated
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>>1385753 You're putting an awful lot of faith in Little Marco's depleted braindrained state department.
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>>1385868 It's so great how this makes you anti-american fags so angry. Now the demtards are cheering on the cartels. Can't say I didn't expect it.
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>>1385870 You're literally trying to claim that making a list is a win. Trump could mail you a fidget spinner and you people would think he invented free energy.
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>>1385871 >Only a Democrat would complain about going after cartels Stay salty and stay mad, faggot.
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>>1385872 Go watch Lone Wolf McQuade again for the 140th time, boomer.
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>>1385871 Any cartel members that making onto this "list" aren't going to be around for very long
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>>1385873 >Lone Wolf McQuade What the fuck is this, terrorist?
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>>1385874 Your fucking retarded if you think they haven't been flying drones over cartel locations until now.
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>>1385876 You're fucking retarded actually.
Enjoy the next 4 years of trump cleaning up the opioid epidemic. I hope your withdrawals aren't too bad.
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>>1385882 lmao I seriously think The Sound of Freedom melted your brain.
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>>1385883 I have no idea what "Lone Wolf McQuade" or "The Sound of Freedom" are but you're welcome to imagine whatever sort of strawman helps you cope, I don't really care.
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>>1385702 >Guys, it's just being designated as a global terrorist organization by the United States, the country with the largest military and intelligence apparatus in the world, it's literally no big deal this but kind of unironically lol. us doesnt seem to be able to do shit nowadays. just look at the houthis. US cant do shit about them and shipping companies have just conceded to paying the protection money now lel.
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>>1385889 Damn you really aren't an American. The turboautist was right.
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>>1385915 >>1385914 You and your cartel friends and going to prison.
I'm sorry, but it's happening.
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new shill talking points just dropped
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>>1385922 Yeah, claiming "being designated a global terrorist organization means absolutely nothing" is a pretty lame af cope and I have no idea who's supposed to believe it
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>>1385927 Would've meant a lot more if this changed literally anything about the cartel was handled by the US. We're still doing the same operations we were/could do before this. This is just another Trump fanfare for nothing so the emperor can be congratulated about his new clothes.
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>>1385876 You realize that for the past four years, cartel drones have been flying on our side of the border, and border patrol could not shoot them down unless they got specific, individualized, written permission from Mayorkas?
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>>1385928 Can't wait for the news articles next week about why Trump seizing assets from the cartel members is bad
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>>1385928 It's more leverage with other countries than anything else. You might think that, say, declaring war and fighting vs just fighting makes no difference, but the officialization not only allows them to exercise more emergency powers, but gives them leverage when mentioning their official position to other world leaders. In this case, Mexico.
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>>1385932 I can't believe Trump was in office four years prior to this and never seized any assets...
Oh wait. he did. And so did Biden. And Obama. Fuck man they suggested this in the first Trump admin and rejected it precisely because it does fuck all other then imply we're going to fuck up Mexico like we did the Middle East.
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>>1385933 If anything this makes Mexico less willing to cooperate with us. The US doesn't exactly have a good history with going into countries to fight terrorists. Look what happened with the last few.
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>>1385929 You realize the US has been flying drones over mexico since Papa Bush was president in the 90s, right?
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>>1385938 Never said they weren't you retard. But authorization always expands against terrorists.
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>>1385934 Trump is serious this time. He let Democrats tell him what he could and couldn't do last time. He doesn't give a fuck now that they've tried to kill him twice.
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>>1385937 Right, so given that bad history, Mexico might wanna clean it up themselves to prevent American presence on their soil given the designation. Ever thought of that, my dear dem friend?
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>>1385940 >Well now we can have... more drones! >...in another country where we have to ask their government for permission anyways So again, nothing.
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>>1385940 Glad you agree that the only thing changed is public knowledge of a decades old surveillance campaign.
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>>1385942 In your head do you honestly think you're talking to democrat operatives?
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>>1385943 >we have to ask for permission! Source?
And even if we did, this still opens up the use of MORE
Do you not understand the difference between an amount of drones x and an amount of drones greater than x ?
>>1385944 >glad we agree [thing I didn't say or remotely imply] Anonymous
>>1385942 >Man, this'll really make Mexico want to clean up those cartels their latest president literally got elected to go against I'm pretty sure almost everyone not on their payroll doesn't like the cartels anon.
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>>1385945 No, but a normie democrat, probably.
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>>1385947 This is a ceremonial performative act designed to be one of hundreds of other distraction executive actions which are flooding the zone with shit while Trump expands his executive power.
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>>1385949 The president isn't the only person in charge of the country. More pressure is always good when you're trying to coerce enter coalitions worth of people in another country to pass international agreements favorable to you
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>>1385950 Based on what? Your feelings?
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>>1385947 >Source? You can't exactly do military operations or surveillance in another country without their government's permission. You know, unless you want an international incident that threatens relations with one of our main neighbors and trade partners.
Also like, you know there isn't a second pile of drones with a little sticker on them saying "only for terrorists :)". If we wanted more drone surveillance before, we would've sent it in. You're acting like the cartel wasn't already a massive threat level in national security's eyes before this.
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>>1385951 >it's ceremonial if I ignore all the tangible differences it makes anyone can say this about anything
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>>1385955 Would Mexico realistically stop the US from doing this?
And yes, there are resources designated for terrorists only. You denying this is laughable.
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>>1385952 Yeah because what they really needed was "hey guys, the US might come in". That's more convincing then "They're literally killing people and threatening you directly for standing up to them".
Fucks sake, Mexico has more reason to be against the cartels than we do. They're the ones getting threatened by them most directly. We're just where they offload all their drugs.
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>>1385957 >there are resources designated for terrorists only you're absolutely retarded if you think the individual crimes the cartel has committed before this didn't warrant those same resources already. Again, we didn't need terrorist designations for anti-mafia operations. This isn't different.
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>>1385958 >Mexico has more reason to be against the cartels than we do. They're the ones getting threatened by them most directly. We're just where they offload all their drugs. Mexico is going to benefit from us designating the cartels terrorists even more than we will.
Their president is already authorizing CIA operations.
It's about to get fun. Enjoy having trump fix America
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>>1385964 What did she do besides make a promise? This is a public statement it's not action. Bidens admin said a lot of bullshit and didn't do anything.
What action did she take besides making a statement?
A CNN article published just Tuesday describes trump's authorization of CIA drones into Mexico as a "dramatic reorientation of intelligence assets" suggesting that no, the CIA was not doing anything about this
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This seems racist against Latinx*. The real terrorists are white people wondering why politicians seem to be replacing them (they’re not btw, immigration is just because white people are lazy colonialist FUCKS who won’t work for lgbt pride parade sponsors).
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>>1385945 >>1385954 Paid shills are Democrats. Discord troons are Democrats. Jews are Democrats
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>>1385956 >(flooding the zone with shit intensifies) Anonymous
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>>1385607 >and honestly I think the Mexican president would support (at the minimum) military raids against their compounds. Ah kinda but not really
Looks like she wants change the Mexican constitution to force the Mexican government to tip off the cartels about all of the United States actions before they can be approved by Mexico
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>>1385702 Lefties are currently publicly pretending they want to stop illegal immigration and downsize the federal government, and their only objection is the way Trump is going about it. Last year they would have laughed at you if you raised either of those issues. Trumps shifted the Overton window so far right in such a short period it's actually wild. It turns out all you have to do to stop your country from going down the shitter is not be a useless spineless loser.
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>>1385975 You're retarded. They are currently calling for his death and having protests all across the United States.
Some weirdo shot up a Tesla dealership in seattle a day ago. Don't delude yourself.
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>>1385976 Talking about the media coverage. Of course there's unhinged lefties going terrorist mode. They did all the same shit during his first term.
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>>1385977 seems it's always a republican though
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>>1385977 >some All across the United States.
>terrorist mode Avoid big cities, don't be retarded and carry a firearm.
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>>1385975 This is pretty damn accurate actually.
Good post.
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>>1385978 >Proud Democrat voter, Ryan Routh. Anonymous
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>Killing brown people just because they have different preferences than you is... LE GOOD What the fuck is wrong with Trumptards?
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>>1385597 >>1385597 >Ok and what are we supposed to do in that case with this? Nuke them into molten glass.
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>>1385550 I gotta say. I voted for this, and I'm happy
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>>1386129 You voted for the government to make useless lists?
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>>1386135 I didn't vote for you people to act any stupider than you were already acting but I can't really help that
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>>1385711 We have nukes for the cartels and anyone else who wants to talk shit about it.
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>>1386136 When you've been indoctrinated to think making a list is winning something, it's no surprise you think everyone else laughing at you is stupid.
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>>1386135 You'll be screeching if he actually takes military action too. Let's be honest.
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>>1386205 I would do nothing of the sort. That might be enough for the 4 or 5 of the republicans in the house who still have a spine to join the democrats in forming a majority to impeach him over such a crazy move.
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>>1386205 they'll be screeching then but they still don't why yet - their media has to tell them how to receive and interpret reality first.
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>>1386205 Actual military action would amount to a military trespass on foreign soil.
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>>1386275 >Actual military action would amount to military trespass on the soil of a nation that willingly harbors violent terrorists Yes. And? Why do you support terrorists like the Mexican government does?
>>1386207 >If Trump actually tried to fight against terrorism we must impeach him! why do you support terrorists?
>>1385711 The US took down the Mafia (thanks to Rudy Giuliani) and was part of bringing down Pablo Escobar. We also broke up the Guadalajara Cartel in the 80s. Learn your history
>God damn rightwingers are stupid lmao pure projection from a 19-year-old leftist who doesn't have any clue what he's talking about. Grow up and actually read instead of just repeating your NPC talking points.
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How much koolaid does one have to drink before they start believing Trump's lies like
>>1386382 ?
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>>1386210 cool headcanon gramps
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Looks like the bot is back.
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>>1385960 >they warranted it already! You're right, but no one treated them like they should have been treated until now
Glad we agree it's correct to label them as terrorist organizations and start treating them as such
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>>1386387 where's the lie?