https://apnews.com/article/veterans-affairs-cuts-doge-musk-trump-f587a6bc3db6a460e9c357592e165712 The Department of Veterans Affairs is planning a reorganization that includes cutting over 80,000 jobs from the sprawling agency that provides health care for retired military members, according to an internal memo obtained by The Associated Press.
The VA’s chief of staff, Christopher Syrek, told top-level officials at the agency that it had an objective to cut enough employees to return to 2019 staffing levels of just under 400,000. That would require terminating tens of thousands of employees after the VA expanded during the Biden administration, as well as to cover veterans impacted by burn pits under the 2022 PACT Act.
The memo instructs top-level staff to prepare for an agency-wide reorganization in August to “resize and tailor the workforce to the mission and revised structure.” It also calls for agency officials to work with the White House’s Department of Government Efficiency to “move out aggressively, while taking a pragmatic and disciplined approach” to the Trump administration’s goals. Government Executive first reported on the internal memo.
Veterans have already been speaking out against the cuts at the VA that so far had included a few thousand employees and hundreds of contracts. More than 25% of the VA’s workforce is comprised of veterans.
The plans underway at the VA showed how the Trump administration’s DOGE initiative, led by billionaire Elon Musk, is not holding back on an all-out effort to slash federal agencies, even for those that have traditionally enjoyed bipartisan support.
Michael Missal, who was the VA’s inspector general for nine years until he was fired last month as part of Trump’s sweeping dismissal of independent oversight officials at government agencies, told the AP that the VA is already suffering from a lack of “expertise” as top-level officials either leave or are shuffled around under the president’s plans.
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“What’s going to happen is VA’s not going to perform as well for veterans, and veterans are going to get harmed,” said Missal, who was a guest of Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn. at Trump’s Tuesday address to Congress. Rather than leaning on the missions of inspectors general, whose job is to search out waste and fraud at government agencies, Trump has moved forcefully against them, flouting statutes that require a 30-day notice and specific reasons for their dismissals. Missal is challenging his dismissal in court alongside seven other fired inspectors general. Missal described the VA as “a really complicated, hard to manage organization” that is similar in size to the largest corporations in America. He defended his work at the agency as committed to make it more efficient and responsive to veterans. By Missal’s count, the VA inspector general’s oversight resulted in $45 billion being saved at the agency during his tenure. But he added that Trump’s actions against the inspectors general is making it more difficult for the officials still in those offices to do their jobs. In Congress, Democrats have decried the cuts at the VA and other agencies, while Republicans have so far watched with caution the Trump administration’s changes. Blumenthal, the top Democrat on the Senate committee that oversees veteran’s affairs, said in a statement that the Trump administration “has launched an all-out assault” against progress the VA has made in expanding its services as the number of covered veterans grows and includes those impacted by toxic burn pits. “Their plan prioritizes private sector profits over veterans’ care, balancing the budget on the backs of those who served. It’s a shameful betrayal, and veterans will pay the price for their unforgivable corruption, incompetence, and immorality,” Blumenthal said in a statement.
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Democratic leaders in the House also spotlighted the impact of Trump’s cuts on veterans Wednesday.
“Democrats are here to say in unison we will not allow our veterans to be defined as government waste,” said Rep. Katherine Clark, the No. 2 ranked in House Democratic leadership, at a news conference.
The news also appeared on Fox News' TV segments.
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>>1389402 I will. Americans need to get what they voted for.
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>>1389398 The VA is so corrupt and inefficient that it should just be dissolved at this point. It costs billions of dollars to give the worst amount of care and the fraud is almost as bad as medicare
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>>1389466 >no healthcare is better than slowly delivered healthcare Wut?
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>>1389487 Nice false dichotomy. The VA barely qualifies as healthcare to begin with. Luckily, no one gives a shit what you retards think. Musk agrees with me
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>>1389488 NTA but you're still saying no healthcare is somehow better than shit healthcare.
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>>1389466 >The VA is so corrupt and inefficient that it should just be dissolved at this point. I bet the only military service this loser saw was while playing Call of Duty. loser...looser...loooser.Just like my loser son, general BONEspursAfart
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>>1389488 >Musk agrees with me dont you mean that you agree with Mr. Musk, Mr Nobody? You're getting to big for your Call Of Duty britches, aint you, boy?
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>>1389402 >Democratic leaders there are none. Maybe Al Green, but that's it. The rest do not care.
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>>1389487 They love getting cucked by insurance, state provided healthcare is for commies
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>>1389398 Good. I'm a vet who still can't get treatment for shit that happened while I was in. I had to pay out of pocket for doctors, chiropractors, dental, etc. just so I could stop feeling pain. So cheers to Trump, I sincerely hope he fires the whole fucking thing.
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>>1389498 I voted for Musk. He's my elected leader
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>>1389466 And this guy gets it.
>>1389493 NTA, yeah actually because at least then they can't hide behind "oh we're giving you healthcare" when they're not. Giving out a handful of Motrin and a printout on some stretching exercises you can do to try to lessen your pain is not fucking healthcare. It's some shit you could do on your own by going on youtube and buying pills at Walgreens. No healthcare would actually be better because then you could point to the lack of health and push for compensation to these poor sons of bitches. Or at least demonstrate how the military doesn't give a fuck about you instead of this pretend to care bullshit.
>>1389495 ngl I did play a bit of CoD in Afghanistan.
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>pissing off a punch of people with combat training Hopefully this will get him killed.
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>>1389495 Completely irrelevant. Take your meds
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>>1389487 Used to know a guy who was a scout sniper in vietnam. He destroyed his body doing retarded shit e.g jumping out of helicopters from 75 ft in the air.
VA took a look at his shattered spine and knees, told him it wasn't service related.
So yeah. It's basically no healthcare.
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>>1389487 the VA has more than healthcare, it also has loans, job rehab, disabilities, and more shit whether it's internal or for veterans. I've seen a lot of genuinely useless jobs in the military, and I wouldn't be surprised if the civilian side had 80,000 of their own useless jobs. There are over 19,500 cities in the US, and if 80,000 people lost a job, that's less than 5 people per city. That's not a lot, the bureaucracy is already slow, might as well cut some dead weight.
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>>1389487 Even if it wasn't the worst run health insurance in the nation, government shouldn't be giving any handouts out, period. Soldiers and veterans should be getting their health through the private marketplace, like everyone else. They need to take responsiblity for themselves.
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>>1389466 It also administers housing and education benefits.
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>>1389493 >VA does the bare minimum at massive markups. That's what I am saying. The cost is too high, and what it provides is too low. The whole department must be eliminated. Vets can get their own healthcare through the private market. I'm certain they'll be able to get a job with a competitive health plan if they try.
>>1389547 Shouldn't exist. First, college is a massive meme. It takes men and transforms them into wokelers. We should be trying to limit the amount of people going to college, not encouraging more. The US would be greatly improved if only a few thousand elite graduated every year. Second, the reason why housing is so high is because there aren't that many houses. Vets don't deserve to jump the line and not compete for homes just because of their service. Lastly, these entitlements are a massive waste on government. Vets can and should take care of themselves. I have faith that they'll land on their feet.
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>>1389548 Really shit larp
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>>1389511 They weren't getting much help in the first place so keep your revenge fantasies to yourself
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>>1389398 Hey remember how three weeks ago the Secretary of Veteran Affairs assured vets their benefits wouldn't be targeted for cuts?
Yeah, bout that...
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>>1389565 What benefits have been cut?
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Clearly, if something isn't working well, the best solution is to just throw it in the trash. Reminds me how my truck's fuel injector was misbehaving, so I ripped it out. Sure, my truck won't start now, but it took care of my injector problem. How can you have a problem with something if it doesn't even exist?
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>>1389572 What a fucking retard (like all libcucks). To use your analogy, if VA was a truck, it would be flawed from the tires up. No amount of maintenance would fix it. You know why? Because your truck is a fucking Flintstones car because the government is retarded. The only thing government should be doing is policing, enforcing morality and social hygiene, and military work. Those are literally the only things it does well. Anything else should be handled by the private sector. That benefits everyone. The brilliant entrepreneurs get their payouts, employees are paid to service the veterans, the invisible hand polishes out all inefficiencies, and the veterans are happier. What providing a government service does is mislead them away from the private markets to a much more shitty one. That is why VA has to go. And then you figure in the massive waste of being publicly run. A CEO like Musk could maybe shave off 80% of the costs because he understands that the more efficient a company is, the more money he makes.
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>>1389549 Everything he said was 100% true.
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>>1389573 Veterans need to stop sucking on the teet of government. We have the best private healthcare industry on the planet, but these idiots would rather go to the government instead. Just go and get a job already. Signa, Blueshield, and UHC are far better than VA Health.
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>>1389546 Just stop, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Military benefits is one of the reasons for joining. You’re just saying right now that soldiers who get paid fking nothing as it is to lose their benefits while working for this country. If this is not a bait than the Republican Party is an enemy to our national defense.
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Vet here. Was in Grenada and the First Gulf War. It's basically a big meme in the military that the VA is a massive joke that actively hurts the health care of our veterans. I've had multiple personal experiences with the VAs failures. I'm happy President Trump is getting this organization. It's lack of value it provides to veterans can only be the result of incompetence or corruption. It needs to be fixed or removed entirely!
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>>1389670 I don't think there's any fixing it. It's a massive drain that just needs to be gotten rid of. Vets can partake in the same market as everyone else does. The US healthcare industry is the envy of the world. They'll be able to get 5 star medical service there.
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>>1389674 They're pushing to get rid of the VA and preexisting clause. It's not going to be fun for wounded veterans when they're denied care since it's a "preexisting condition."
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>>1389676 So? That would still be better than what we have today. I don't want any of my tax dollars going to failed government run organizations like the VA or the post office. Get that shit out of here.
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>>1389674 >The US healthcare industry is the envy of the world. lmao, its routinely criticized for being one of the worst
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>>1389678 By leftists. The only reason it's been getting fucked is because of government interference. Your health should only be between you, your doctor, and your insurer, no one else.
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>>1389679 Tell that to all the bankruptcies, or people dying because they couldn't afford basic medicine because some CEO jumped the price from $17.50 to $750.
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>>1389680 The market charges what the market can bear. Those deserving of wealth will reap the wealth. That some will fail or even die is a feature. One, it eliminates surplus labor and useless eaters. Two, it puts the lash to the work force. Fear and anxiety are two of the best methods of assuring efficiency and compliance. A good worker should always be thinking in the back of their mind about how they and their kids will be out on the streets starving and freezing (or baking) to death if they don't meet performance standards.
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>>1389679 >your insurer why does this asshole need to be a part of the process?
Sounds like he collects a paycheck to make sure that investors in the insurance companies get paid more
Why are you defending leeches?
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>>1389682 Insurers minimize risks and moderate the excesses of over medication. They are a necessary part of the healthcare industry.
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>>1389683 Luigi's are a necessary part of the healthcare industry.
We need more regulators like him trimming the fat.
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>>1389684 > Brian Thompson, Not Luigi Mangione, Is the Real Working-Class Hero >Thompson “grew up in a working-class family in Jewell, Iowa,” a tiny farming community north of Des Moines, Amy Julia Harris and Ernesto Londoño reported. “His mother was a beautician, according to family friends, and his father worked at a facility to store grain.” Thompson’s childhood was spent “going row by row through the fields to kill weeds with a knife, or working manual labor at turkey and hog farms.” >Those details are worth bearing in mind as some people seek to cast his killing as a tale of justified, or at least understandable, fury against faceless corporate greed. One ex-reporter, Taylor Lorenz, said she felt “joy” at the killing. Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., offered that “violence is never the answer” but “people can only be pushed so far.” Pictures of Luigi Mangione, the 26-year-old charged with the murder of Thompson, have also elicited a fair amount of oohing and ahhing on social media over his toned physique and bright smile. >But if Mangione’s personal story (at least what we know of it so far) is supposed to serve as some sort of parable, it isn’t one that leftists should take comfort in. He is the scion of a wealthy and prominent Maryland family, was educated at an elite private school and the University of Pennsylvania and worked remotely from a nice apartment in Hawaii. And while Mangione, like millions of people, apparently suffered from debilitating back pain, excellent health care is not generally an issue for Americans of great wealth. Anonymous
>>1389685 >All this suggests that Mangione may prove to be a figure out of a Dostoyevsky novel — Raskolnikov with a silver spoon. It’s a familiar type. Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, better known as Carlos the Jackal, was a lawyer’s son whose mother moved him to London before he went on to become an international terrorist. Osama bin Laden came from immense wealth. Angry rich kids jacked up on radical, nihilistic philosophies can cause a lot of harm, not least to the working-class folks whose interests they pretend to champion. >As for the suggestion that Thompson’s murder should be an occasion to discuss Americans’ supposed rage at private health insurers, it’s worth pointing out that a 2023 survey from the nonpartisan health policy research institute KFF found that 81% of insured adults gave their health insurance plans a rating of “excellent” or “good.” Even a majority of those who say their health is “fair” or “poor” still broadly like their health insurance. No industry is perfect — nor is any health care model — and insurance companies make terrible calls all the time in the interest of cost savings. But the idea that those companies represent a unique evil in American life is divorced from the experience of most of their customers. >Thompson’s life may have been cut brutally short, but it will remain a model for how a talented and determined man from humble roots can still rise to the top of corporate life without the benefit of rich parents and an Ivy League degree. As for the killer, Sen. John Fetterman had the choicest words: He’s “going to die,” the peerless Pennsylvania Democrat told HuffPost. “Congratulations if you want to celebrate that.” Anonymous
>>1389685 >>1389686 Thompson killed hundreds if not thousands for pure profit. Fuck off.
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>>1389688 Maybe those treatments were too expensive. Everyone has a dollar value on their lives. Some people, especially the old, shouldn't get treatments that cost millions and just prolongs their lives by a year. A lot of denials too are people who bought the cheap plan and didn't read the fine print. That's their fault, not the insurance company.
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>>1389685 Leftists fucking hate it when people succeed in life, especially rural people from small towns, it literally makes them so mad that it drives them to murder.
No joke.
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>>1389690 There were a lot of people on the right who disliked Thompson as well.
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>>1389692 lol, leftist propaganda. Everyone on the right saw Thompson's murder as the tragedy it was. America lost one of its best that day and Luigi can't get the chair soon enough.
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>>1389690 There are forms of success that make life worse for most other people. Even right-wingers understand that usually.
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>>1389681 My dad always said that if a worker enjoyed going to work, then he's being mismanaged. Efficient work is miserable work, much like school.
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>>1389695 Your dad was deluding himself into thinking how he was treated was ok.
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>>1389689 The man made a fucking AI deny claims for him so they can do it as efficiently as possible. United Healthcare had one of the lowest payout rates in the world.
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>>1389689 >Hurr, the CEO was akshulaly a good person and a success story- >Everyone has a dollar value on their lives. pick a lane, faggot
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>>1389699 Americans have deluded themselves into believing that what is efficient (profitable) for the business is always good for the consumer.
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>>1389699 Insurance isn't a charity anon. You're not entitled to unlimited, free healthcare.
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>>1389699 >optimizing claims process with AI >somehow, this is a bad thing Anonymous
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>>1389712 >somehow Are you human?
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DISABLED VETERAN HERE Politics aside, the VA is overstaffed. We don't need a guy to sit there playing his Switch for 6 hours a day on the taxpayers' dime. We don't need a guy in the pharmacy whose sole job is to press "print" on the label printer. A guy who offers water bottles. Etc. These are just what I see as a dude in the waiting rooms. Imagine what goes on at higher levels. Hospital admins are probably shitposting on /v/ at work. Hell, if we cut out the dead weight it might actually improve efficiency.
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>>1389991 Why not just get rid of the VA? The government shouldn't be in the business of paying for health or libtard colleges.
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Will the Trump/Musk administration lay off of the Veterans already?! Sheesh!