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Trump bid to expand power comes before Supreme Court

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 18:14:33 No.1463024 View View Reply Original Report

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/12/06/trump-supreme-court-independent-agencies-ftc/87620043007/

WASHINGTON − President Donald Trump’s attempt to increase his power by taking control of independent agencies comes before the Supreme Court on Dec. 8 in the second of at least four major cases on Trump’s expansive view of presidential authority the justices are considering this term.

Trump wants the court to overturn a 1935 decision limiting presidents’ ability to remove leaders of multi-member administrative agencies that could include the Federal Reserve and the Federal Trade Commission.

He may get his wish because the court has been chipping away at the decision since 2010.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 18:16:12 No.1463025 Report

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And even if the court’s conservative supermajority doesn’t completely repeal the ruling, they’re expected to further curtail its reach, reshaping the balance of power between the president, independent federal agencies and Congress.

The justices could at least allow Trump to control the Federal Trade Commission, which enforces a variety of antitrust and consumer protection laws affecting virtually every area of commerce.

Many other agencies could be affected, including the Federal Reserve and agencies that enforce campaign finance laws, protect workers, stop fraudulent business practices, regulate broadcasting and broadband services, investigate air and road accidents and more.

“This case marks a pivotal moment for the separation of powers, with the potential to redefine how dozens of government agencies operate,” said Varu Chilakamarri, a former Justice Department attorney now with the law firm K&L Gates.
Conservatives push 'unitary executive theory'

The agencies were set up by Congress to be led by politically balanced boards of experts serving fixed terms.

But under the “unitary executive theory” that conservatives have advanced for years, the Constitution gives presidents complete control over executive functions, which must include the power to remove commission members. Otherwise, conservatives contend, agencies aren’t sufficiently accountable to the public, a defect that has led to what critics refer to as the “administrative state.”

“Congress has the power to create a vast and varied executive bureaucracy, but it cannot place that bureaucracy outside of the president's responsibility,” said Oliver Dunford, an attorney with the libertarian Pacific Legal Foundation.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 18:17:52 No.1463026 Report

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Trump has tried to remove multiple agency leaders

After taking office, Trump declared that all federal agencies are under his control.

In March, Trump fired the two Democratic members of the five-member Federal Trade Commission board, Rebecca Kelly Slaughter and Alvaro Bedoya.

Relying on the Supreme Court’s 1935 decision in Humphrey’s Executor v. United States, lower courts said Trump can only remove FTC members for wrongdoing – which Trump hasn’t alleged.

Courts made similar rulings about the president’s firing of Democratic members from the Consumer Product Safety Commission and from two federal labor boards.

But the Supreme Court intervened, allowing those firings to proceed as they’re being challenged. The court also agreed to decide on an expedited basis whether the removal protections Congress created for FTC commissioners are consistent with the Constitution’s division of authority among the three branches of government.

The court separately agreed to hear arguments in January about Trump’s ability to fire a member of the Federal Reserve if he thinks she’s done something wrong.

In still another case about presidential power, the court is deciding whether Trump can impose sweeping tariffs on imports even though the Constitution gives Congress the power to raise revenue.

And on Friday, Dec. 5, the court agreed to decide if Trump's interpretation of the Constitution means he can deny citizenship to some babies born in the United States.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 18:19:02 No.1463027 Report

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Trump argues the ability to fire is 'indispensable'

In the case the high court will hear Dec. 8, Trump v. Slaughter, the administration will argue that the president’s ability to remove a leader of an agency is “indispensable” to his responsibility under the Constitution to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.”

In 1935, however, the Supreme Court said the Federal Trade Commission’s duties were “neither political nor executive, but predominantly quasi-judicial and quasi-legislative.”

“Like the Interstate Commerce Commission, its members are called upon to exercise the trained judgment of a body of experts 'appointed by law and informed by experience,’” Justice George Sutherland wrote for the court. “Such a body cannot in any proper sense be characterized as an arm or an eye of the executive."

The Justice Department argues that even if that was a correct interpretation of the FTC in 1935 − which it disputes − it’s not now.

“The modern-day FTC, like its many independent-agency counterparts and its 1935 predecessor, exercises executive power – indeed, quite a bit of it,” Solicitor General John Sauer said in a written filing.

The FTC can seek court orders and civil penalties against businesses, write rules businesses must follow and investigate potential violations of the law, he said.

“This Court should overrule anything that remains of Humphrey’s Executor,” he wrote.
Can the president treat the FTC 'like his little lapdog'?

Alvaro Bedoya, one of the two FTC commissioners fired by Trump, said if the Supreme Court agrees with the president, he wil be able to treat FTC and other agencies “like his little lapdog.”

In September, the FTC settled with Amazon over the agency’s allegations that the online retail giant tricked customers into signing up for its Prime memberships and made it difficult to unsubscribe.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 18:20:16 No.1463028 Report

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The FTC called that $2.5 billion settlement historic. But Bedoya doesn’t think it was tough enough on the Amazon executives involved. And he said the FTC won’t be taken seriously if the public sees such deals months after Amazon contributed $1 million to Trump’s inauguration.

“It calls into question the ability to police all sorts of industries that are really basic to our lives,” he said of the president’s desire to fire agency leaders at will.

But the justices may not be receptive to that argument.

When the court, in July, allowed Trump to fire three Democratic members of the Consumer Product Safety Commission, Justice Elena Kagan – one of the court’s three liberals – said her conservative colleagues had “all but overturned Humphey’s Executor.”

Justice Brett Kavanaugh, one of the six conservative justices, said there’s “at least a fair prospect” that the court will overrule it.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 19:44:12 No.1463041 Report

Quoted By: >>1463048 >>1463072

>>1463025
>Conservatives push 'unitary executive theory'
Not this shit again.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 20:36:37 No.1463048 Report

Quoted By: >>1463060 >>1463072

>>1463041
They've been doing this shit for like 50 years.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 21:33:27 No.1463060 Report

Quoted By: >>1463063 >>1463067 >>1463174

>>1463048
Looks like they're finally going to get it with this SCOTUS, only for it to backfire on them when a democrat takes office and uses the enhanced powers to cleanse the government of MAGAts.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 21:38:28 No.1463063 Report

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>>1463060
I fucking hope the next Dem in office uses every bit of executive power and leeway given to Trump to their full advantage.
I need them to go so hard not a single person utters the phrases lawfare or unitary executive ever again

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 22:00:06 No.1463067 Report

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>>1463060
It's funny you think SCOTUS wouldn't about face and immediately stall out Dem actions for years if not reverse themselves.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 22:08:54 No.1463072 Report

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>>1463041
>>1463048
Conservatives have always been authoritarians, the republican supreme court declared trump is a king who is above the law. And about to throw out over a century of settled law to enact a racist policy against immigrants.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 23:05:56 No.1463094 Report

Quoted By: >>1463127 >>1463141 >>1463147 >>1463149

>>1463067
Honestly I think they want a democrat to act unitarily because it delegitimizes the system of governance every time they do. The neocons hate the government and want it to shrink to nothing, and the neoreactionary crowd such as Yarvin have openly stated they want to install a king and have the populace become techno-serfs. Every time a president uses unitary executive power it makes Congress and the scotus a little more useless.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 00:48:42 No.1463127 Report

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>>1463094
Trump is already acting unitarily and nobody in congress or the scrotus seems to want to stop him. I'm pretty sure it's one of the Project2025 goals, too.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 01:57:47 No.1463141 Report

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>>1463094
>The neocons hate the government and want it to shrink to nothing
Like all conservatives, they want the government to be a dictatorship, far rightoids like Norquist just want the parts of the government that help the masses gone.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 02:35:07 No.1463147 Report

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>>1463094
I am so sick of this logic.
>noooo the dems can’t do that, it’d set a bad precedent and then the repubs do it too!
Meanwhile the repubs are just doing it themselves anyway without a care in the world.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 02:47:57 No.1463149 Report

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>>1463094
>Honestly I think they want a democrat to act unitarily because it delegitimizes the system of governance
Every time one of you does something stupid it shakes conservatives closer and closer to fully waking up.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 03:14:36 No.1463152 Report

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>>1463147
At some point dems can't continue sink to the same level as republicans. The GOP keeps lowering the bar and aiming for the lowest common denominator as they get more and more desperate to fight the inevitability of the boomer base dying off. The real problem is the leadership vacuum in the dem party which doesn't have any alternate solutions beyond "they did it so we also have to do it". That's how dems ended up with things like Kamala spending more dark money than Trump in the last election and Pelosi's donor class running the superdelegate campaign money machine.
>>1463149
The neocons have been planning this Project2025 shit since Nixon was president. One of their strengths is knowing how to play the long game. Dems have nothing like that, there is no liberal/leftist equivalent of a Lee Atwater or Karl Rove or Tom Delay planning the chess moves.

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socialist Phoenix rises from the ashes Sun 07 Dec 2025 03:39:16 No.1463161 Report

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>>1463127
Project 2025 is all smoke and mirrors like antifa. Republicans just want to extract as much wealth as possible for their billionaire and millionaire masters, and then burn the place down and get the insurance money. They don't care about being reelected in 2028. They're going to let the smoke settle and then try again in the 2030s to get some more wealth

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 04:17:06 No.1463168 Report

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>>1463152
>The neocons have been planning this Project2025 shit since Nixon was president.
Google Agenda 47.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 04:20:46 No.1463169 Report

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>>1463152
>here is no liberal equivalent
Because we're under a right wing uniparty, the moment the left gets any sort of momentum they get attacked from all sides. Look at Bernie Sanders and Mamdami as proof.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 05:17:14 No.1463172 Report

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>>1463169
Mamdani still won though. By a pretty decent margin too; enough that even the Republican candidate dropping out and giving all his votes to Cuomo wouldn't have won.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 06:05:45 No.1463174 Report

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>>1463060
>only for it to backfire on them when a democrat takes office and uses the enhanced powers to cleanse the government of MAGAts
...and why stop with just the government? Why not beyond? Why let perfectly good legislation go to waste?
You voted for this, post-Trump cultists. You don't have the right to complain when the same tyrannical powers used against your leftist 'enemy' are directed towards you. You only have the right to take it, and like it.
You ultimately got owned, rightards: and you voted for it.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 11:59:18 No.1463187 Report

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>>1463168
Same shit different name. Most of the immigration stuff was caught on Steve Bannon's white board in 2017.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 16:43:07 No.1463226 Report

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>>1463174
>...and why stop with just the government?
Why, are you suggesting the government interfere with the free market? Blasphemy! White Jesus wants us all to be rich.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 16:55:32 No.1463229 Report

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>>1463024
We knew this was coming. If you didn’t you’re a moron. If you did you’re still a moron because YOU’RE not the one with any power. Sad.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 17:17:23 No.1463231 Report

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>>1463172
New York is one of the few places a liberal could successfully tank the insane amount of smear campaigns the conservative biased media would throw at them.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 17:43:45 No.1463233 Report

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>>1463231
What conservative smears? The NYC mayoral election didn't have a single conservative running. sliwa is a Democrat today just pretends to be a Republican

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 17:45:15 No.1463234 Report

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>>1463233
maybe if you lie 100 more times it will become the truth

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