https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/south-bay/city-of-san-jose-approves-gun-control-plan-imposing-gun-owner-fee-liability-insurance/2582624/ Weeks after a gunman shot and killed nine people at a VTA rail yard, the San Jose City Council is taking steps it hopes will help reduce gun violence and the costs to taxpayers.
It voted Tuesday to establish a yet-to-be-determined gun owner fee to help cover the cost of gunshot-related police and ambulance response and medical treatment.
The Pacific Institute on Research and Evaluation says the cost of gun violence in San Jose is $442 million annually.
The council also approved requiring gun owners to purchase liability insurance.
Mayor Sam Liccardo says he knows the new rules won't stop mass shootings but he believes safety rules will save lives.
“We live in a country with 4.6 million children who live in a home where guns aren’t locked. There's a lot we can do to be safer,” he said.
Violators of the new laws could have their guns taken away. The police chief says enforcement would be limited.
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“During our normal course of duty, if we come across a firearm we will ask the owner if they have insurance,” said San Jose Police Chief Anthony Mata. “We are not going to go door to door inspecting guns to see if they have insurance.”
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>>879937 /news/ leftists will bitch about a one-time $15 ID card fee to vote but are oddly quiet for requiring insurance to own a gun.
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>>879937 > the cost of gun violence in San Jose is $442 million annually it must be because of white American-born conservative gun-owners
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>>879949 Voting and gun ownership are guaranteed by the constitution, but they seem to only raise hell when one is infringed on, but not the other. Very strange indeed.
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>>879938 >“I want to thank Mayor Liccardo and members of the board for being proactive to help create a safer San Jose,” said someone at the meeting. I hope someone challenges this bitch to explain what makes it safer. CA already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
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>>879964 They're going to blame surrounding states. Just watch. They'll say every criminal is getting their firearms from Arizona or Nevada, we'll have to patiently explain to them how it's illegal to sell firearms to people out of state, they'll say muh gun show loophole, we'll have to show again that less than .1% of criminals purchase at gun shows, etc. etc. et fucking cetera. It hasn't even started yet and it's already so tiresome.
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>>879949 Leftists don't whine about gun taxes
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>>879968 >it hasn't even started yet >but this fantasy story I just wrote is already upsetting me >REEEEEEEEE THOSE COMMIEFORNIANS REEEEEEEE Anonymous
>The police chief says enforcement would be limited
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>>879974 The absolute state of cuckservatives and cultists.
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>>879974 >NOOOOO you can't just predict our future behavior based on our past behavior Anonymous
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>>879975 He even says it'll only come up while they are on duty. And since police interact with more black people while on duty, this law is sure to disproportionately infringe on black people's rights.
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>>879982 >NOOOOOO ORANGE GOD BRAINWASHED ME >JUST LET ME SCREECH ABOUT OUR DOOOOOOOOM >ITS ALL THE LEFTISTS' FAULT REEEEEEEE You fucking cultists will never stop writing your ridiculous fantasy stories about the impending doom of America as it's the only way you can justify your dipshitted doomer behavior
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>>879985 That's a lot of cope at having your tactics recognized, gun grabber.
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>>879985 Shall not be infringed.
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>>879959 Which "militia" do you belong to? Oath Keepers? 3%ers? Proud Bois? Groypers? Or are you a lone wolf like Timothy McVeigh? Are you keeping your firearms in the armory like the city dwelling colonialist militia members did? Are you going to wear a buttplug at your next Crap-in-Cap event when sensible gun control laws which the majority of Americans support are passed and upheld by the Courts?
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/10/759193047/poll-most-americans-want-to-see-congress-pass-gun-restrictions >inb4 b-but only east coast city dwellers were polled Nope. Try harder, you're just on the wrong side of history
Notice, the lowest support for banning the sale of assault rifles out of 6 polls in 2019 is 48%, 49% and 52%. The rest are well above 50%. Wrong side of history, you are - deal with it kid.
https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/268340/analyzing-surveys-banning-assault-weapons.aspx Red state VA, former headquarters of the NRA, owned by the International Gun Manufacturers cartel, overwhelmingly elected gun control candidates in 2018. Cry moar, hug snd pet your black fleshlight, etc.
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Schizo thread?
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>>880007 You are trying way too hard, have a pity (You) and take a break.
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>>880014 Nice no argument! Glad you have acknowledged I won. Here have my pic you can blow up into a silhouette and spray rounds at.
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>>880033 Fun fact: The second amendment was originally created so states would have defense forces during times of peace, because the Founding Fathers hated the idea of the US having a standing army.
Considering we DO have an army (And a fucking massive one at that) it is kinda redundant as far as the original intention went.
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>>880033 Doesn't mean what you claim it means.
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>>880034 Fun fact: that's retarded and made up. A government doesn't need an amendment that restricts their power to establish a militia.
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>>880041 It's true and you can look it up. The Founding Fathers didn't want an active army. That's why the second amendment was made.
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>>880043 *Standing army
They didn't want there to be an army sitting around in times of peace is what I'm saying.
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>>880007 >npr in the trash it goes
> Red state VA, former headquarters of the NRA, owned by the International Gun Manufacturers cartel, overwhelmingly elected gun control candidates in 2018. Cry moar, hug snd pet your black fleshlight, etc.
calling VA a red state is stupid the lasted voted red in '04
and VA's demographics have been ruined by DC residents moving to VA of course trash like that will vote blue regardless of where they are
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>>880110 Seethe harder, the vast majority of Americans are against you. Don't like Democracy? African, South American and Middle Eastern countries are in the market for mercenaries to support totalitarian regimes according to SoF. Why not take your arsenal there to test your metal under real fire where you are wanted and welcomed instead of polluting our Democracy? In short, fuck out of our country based on the rule of law established by the Constitution. Founding Fathers don't give af about your hurt feefees.
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>>880133 >Don't like Democracy? Good thing we live in country with a constitution that limits democracy's power and protects individual rights from tyranny. The Founding Fathers did in fact, make sure we had our rights protected by law. I'm sure there's an unchecked democracy that can ruthlessly abuse minority interest citizens out there for you, try Canada, they hate guns so you'll fit right in.
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>>880139 The Constitution is a living document.
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>>880141 That isn't a blank check to define however you want. If it were then it'd be pointless as a limitation on government power.
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>>879974 >but this fantasy story I just wrote is already upsetting me OH! You have a different argument this time? Oh my apologies. Please do go on! I would fucking LOOOOVE to hear something new from the left. What do you got for me?
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>>880033 >the property of something being in proper working order Anonymous
>>880145 >Congress makes amendment to ban alcohol >States ratify it >Congress makes another amendment to repeal the amendment that banned alcohol >States ratify it This sounds like a blank check to define however you want to me.
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Completely unconstitutional. They also just pulled the 442 million number out of their ass
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>>879937 >safety rules will save lives The kind of people who are causing the problems with guns are not going to be impressed by more "safety rules" that are impossible to enforce. I do not live in San Jose, but in general-- go after the people who are committing the crimes and leave me alone.
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>>880176 >Congress makes another amendment to repeal the amendment that banned alcohol ...Which is totally irrelevant to the second amendment. Repeal the second and all you will have accomplished is removing a restraint on our government from infringing the right to arms. The right itself was not granted to us by the government and so cannot be taken back. It will still exist.
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>>879937 Why can there be a war crimes if there is no war? :^)
Pay the fee gun fascist.
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>>880198 Wait 30 years for the migrating Californians to turn several red states blue and then the repeals will begin.
>The right itself was not granted to us by the government God is dead. Governments are all we have left besides multinational corporations. Welcome to the 21st century.
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>>880139 >Founding Fathers said whenever Democracy and the Constitutional processes they established hurt the feefees of a group of retards they should attempt to overthrow the Constitution. So, my original post about you being more comfortable in a South American right wing banana republics, an African mercenary armies establishing a dictatorship or Middle Eastern religious fanatic tyrrany was correct. Our thoughts and prayers are with you! We'll even pay your transportation costs travelling in the comfortable below deck quarters of an African slaver, lol!
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>>880192 >go after the people who are committing the crimes and leave me alone. >implying gun control is about reducing crime. Out of the five most populated cities, those with strict gun laws have higher violent crime than cities allowing concealed carry. Counties that pass concealed carry laws saw a reduction in violent crime after passing.
This has nothing to do with lowering crime and making San Jose safer. IMO it's about encouraging people to move away if they don't agree with you politically. These laws have no effect on criminals.
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>>880218 >God is dead I did not say that our rights "come from God" because I am not religious person. Natural/human rights are ours as human beings. But yes, I agree the the only rights we really have are those we are willing to fight for.
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>>880223 >these laws have no effect on criminals Agreement.
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>>880219 >>880133 you understand how rights work. IDGAF if you want me in the gulags. IDGAF if you vote to put me in the gulags. I'm not going. I know that nothing makes you authoritarians seethe harder than the fact that your power is limited by the 400,000,000 firearms in this country.
>b-b-but the majority of us voted and said you need to go to the gulags! We're the majority so you have to listen! that's where you're wrong, kiddo
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>>880238 based and civil war pilled
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>>880218 >Wait 30 years for the migrating Californians to turn several red states blue and then the repeals will begin. this has been going on for decades now, yet there hasn't been an increase in gun control in recent years, instead nearly half the states now have constitutional carry.
>>880223 >IMO it's about encouraging people to move away if they don't agree with you politically. These laws have no effect on criminals. This. A nearby town recently had a vote to re-zone the 99% of available space in order to prevent a gun store from opening. In a state where you need a loicense to own anything, even long guns. The town meetings and comments sections devolved (very rapidly) into "you don't share our values, get out." These people thought the store owner would be handing out free samples to kids or something. They have no idea how firearms work, or even how many laws already cover them.
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>>879949 Sorry but we're not gonna pay your gay ass poll tax because you boy didn't get two terms.
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>>879949 >/news/ leftists will bitch about a one-time $15 ID card fee >>879973 >Leftists don't whine about gun taxes Imagine being this clueless
That black man gonna take his vote and shoot 30 kids, OH NO!
This is the brane of an American gun nut, international audience.
>>879987 >gun grabber. Thanks for the compliment
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>Violators of the new laws could have their guns taken away. The police chief says enforcement would be limited.
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>>879937 >The council also approved requiring gun owners to purchase liability insurance. You mean this isn't mandatory already? You mean any landless psycho can buy a few assault guns and destroy whatever property he likes and the victims will never get a compensation for the damage? You're lucky nobody has exploited that weakness on a large scale yet. You people are begging for a civil war.
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>>879949 i'm against voter ID AND liability insurance for gun owners.
>anarcho syndicalist unionist supporter. Anonymous
>>880223 >Counties that pass concealed carry laws saw a reduction in violent crime after passing. Oh yeah, that must be why every law enforcement organisation opposes permitless concealed carry on the basis that it in fact increases crime and accidental firearm injuries and deaths.
>states pass caveman permitless carry laws >crime immediately skyrockets across the country >S-see, permitless carry l-lowers crime *derp* *derp* Anonymous
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>>880422 >implying pigs don't want what's coming to them when they are corrupt and abuse the citizenry. that's why the pigs are for gun control. go lick boots you fucking jannie.
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>>879959 Voting isn’t guaranteed at all. The only thing the Constitution can do is define ways that you can’t deny someone the vote. Nothing stops states from denying felons for example.
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>>880176 Democrats aren't passing an amendment, they're creating laws that go against the amendment.
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>>880219 Gun grabbers are not following constitutional processes, they're ignoring them and passing laws that go against them.
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>>880422 >why every law enforcement organisation opposes permitless concealed carry According to who? Moms demand action? A couple of police chiefs in Wisconsin?
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>>879949 First post, best post
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>>879937 >yet-to-be-determined gun owner fee Unconstitutional
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>>880435 Challenge it in court like the Foundjng Fathers intended. If you lose, engage in legal Constitutional processes to attempt to elect Neanderthal cave men who will allow themselves to be bought and paid for by the International Gun Manufacturers Limited Liability Cartel then. Don't commit suicide by going full Crap-in-Cap on steroids. Your cold dead hands won't feel very comfy in your lust and luxury:
Daffodil bulbs instead of balls
Stared from the sockets of the eyes!
He knew that thought clings round dead limbs
Tightening its lusts and luxuries.
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>>880502 Ok, Daffodil bulbs.
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>>880415 What shithole country are you from?
>>880422 I didn't realize crime was rising in constitutional carry states (it isn't), especially considering this thread is about a city in CA. Weird how CA keeps having all this gun crime and responds by making it harder for regular people to own guns.
>>880499 I think we broke the bot, anons.
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>>880529 >bot appropriately quotes T. S. Eliot in response to an obscure retarded non-literary post Anon I...
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Is it just me or is there a Moms Demand Action member here that’s constantly posting drivel?
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>>880547 It's just you, Wayne LaPierre. How is that 15th yacht you bought when you emptied the NRA treasury of all the money gullible gimps gave you holding up? Ashstrays full yet so you need a new one?
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>>880547 It's the same faggot who has no argument but insults everyone usually with the typical references to rednecks, fast food, rambo, feefees or bibles. It's either a shitty bot that needs an update or a retarded shill that isn't worth the 10 cents he gets per post. I wouldn't bother with him.
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>>880547 >>880637 >the vast majority of Americans support stricter gun control >there's only 1 guy who is a bot/paid shill by moms advocating gun control How'd 'dat 'ere 'lection in 'ol Dominion (VA) whar 'dem dagnabbed gun grabbers BTFO every pro death cult candidate? 'Da sweet, sweet smell 'o 'dat 'ere successy thingamajig!
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>>880801 Yet the US can't have nice things like stricter gun control because 8 knuckledragging cave man red states with a combined population that doesn't even equal 1 major US metropolitan area have 16 US Senators who are bought and paid for by the International Gun Manufacturers, No Liability Cartel.
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>>880808 lol seethe more trannie
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>>880832 It seems like the OP is seething over the gun laws in San Jose, Caifornia which is why this thread is here in the first place.
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>>880833 OP is right to be upset because those laws are unconstitutional and will only affect the working class. Adding a financial barrier to a constitutional right is unacceptable. But you’re too high and mighty to see that, DNC shill. It’s fine though. It’ll be challenged in the courts and be overturned easily.
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>>880843 lol seethe more cultist
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>>880845 Go back to r*ddit and spend more DNC funds on giving awards to r/politics posts.
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>>880801 >the vast majority of Americans support stricter gun control [citation needed]
>at least 20 states are constitutional carry now because Americans hate guns, right? Anonymous
>>880808 >Yet the US can't have nice things like stricter gun control You can in blue states. I don't know why you don't stay there.
>because 8 knuckledragging cave man red states with a combined population that doesn't even equal 1 major US metropolitan area How does their loose gun laws affect whatever draconian utopia you live in?
>have 16 US Senators who are bought and paid for by the International Gun Manufacturers, No Liability Cartel. Yeah lets compare the money NRA throws around to the money Bloomberg throws around, since you want to talk about congressmen being bought.
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>>880853 What he means is that we are all slaves to New York and California and don't get to self-govern.
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>the gun statistics can be trusted, despite the fact the people doing the number crunching at the atf have been shown to be completely incompetent >its not like every other time the atf checks up on military depots or the guy with over 50 guns a shit ton come up "unaccounted for"
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>>880863 >You should have to bring your guns in to an office to be physically registered at least once every year or two So the feds can make a list and confiscate them, like what happened in Canada? No thanks, the government should spend a few decades being trustworthy before anything like what you propose is worth considering.
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>>880866 >he thinks you can own a gun legally without being on a government registry Dude, you are already on a list Anonymous
>>880871 >You're already on a list, but also we need to make a list Anonymous
>>880856 >Lets compare International Gun Manufacturer Cartel death cult organisations spending vs gun control organisations The only time the pro-death Cartel was outspent was in 2018 VA when the grifter NRA executive con men had depleted the treasury for their personal use and only had $400,000 left to spend. Other than that, the pro-death organisations outspend gun control advocates. Although gun control advocate revenue is growing at a faster rate (which reflects the fact the vast majority of Americans want stricter gun control) than the pro death cult revenue, pro death still raises more money.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/02/15/gun-rights-lobby-outspends-gun-control-advocates-by-a-wide-margin.html https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/11/26/bloomberg-vs-nra-huge-donation-lifts-gun-safety-groups-revenue.html Anonymous
>>880853 Already posted 2 sources, fagfuck. Lurk moar until you learn to follow threads.
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>>880876 >I don't fucking comprehend because I am a retarded gun nut The list already exists. You are on it if you own a gun, if you are not registered, you will be arrested and your gun grabbed if you claim ownership of a gun. Every state is subject to this, period.
What I am saying is that you should be forced to be able to prove that you can actually be able to hold on to the guns you own. So these incidents of "half my guns where stolen but I didn't notice until they where traced back to my collection of the past 10 years of gun crime" or the guy who "always is getting his guns stolen yet always seems to have to money to buy another 1-2k firearm" will stop being able to lose objects that are designed to kill shit, specifically people most of the time.
If you can't keep track of your murder device, you don't fucking need one.
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>>880895 The truth is that's there is no list and your excuse to make one is just an excuse to make one.
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>>880884 NPR doesn't count fuckface. Don't make me post breitbart articles just to come down to your level.
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>>880895 >The list already exists. You are on it if you own a gun, if you are not registered, you will be arrested and your gun grabbed if you claim ownership of a gun. Shhh. Nobody tell him about private sales. Thank God I don't live in the same state as you.
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>>880907 There is literally nothing wrong with NPR and post Breitbart links all you want if you want to derail the thread with >Into the trash it goes!
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>>880904 >I am fucking retarded What do you think registering a gun fucking is? It is literally a list for the government to see who owns guns. Every legal gun must be registered.
Now please explain to me how there is no list.
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>>880910 You still need to register to gun in your name after the sale otherwise when you get caught with it, you will be arrested and gun grabbed.
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>>880912 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_registry >In the United States, there is currently no national gun registry Anonymous
>>880915 Every single state has a gun registry that the feds can access at any time they please.
This is different from a national registry how exactly?
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>>880916 https://faq.sll.texas.gov/questions/42855 >In Texas, there is not a state firearm registry. The federal government also does not maintain a general registry of handgun or rifle ownership. Therefore, when a sale is made between two Texas residents for a firearm not covered by the National Firearms Act (such as such as short-barreled shotguns, machine guns, silencers, etc.), there is no registration to transfer. Anonymous
>>880916 >What's the difference between state and federal government? Please tell me you aren't over the age of 18 so there will be some kind of excuse for your naivety.
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>>880911 >There is literally nothing wrong with NPR Wrong.
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>>880919 The federal government can access any state records it wants to. The states have no autonomy of classified documents from the federal government. If your state has access to the information, the federal government has access.
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>>880913 >You still need to register to gun in your name after the sale AHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAH HAHAHAHAHA HA
No. Unlike you I live in a non-cucked state.
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>>880916 >Every single state has a gun registry Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
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>>880924 >>880926 Judging by the amount of guns that get stolen in these states that then go on to be used in crime, ya it should be a thing probably.
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>>880916 >This is different from a national registry how exactly? I'm just spitballing here but I'm assuming that one of the argument for a national registry is efficiency. 50 different registries with 50 different bureaucracies, regulations, protocols and individual ways of doing things is not a very efficient system. If every state already has a registry that the feds can access then many would argue that there's no significant legal difference in a streamlined federal registry that reduces the time, money and effort spent navigating state bureaucracy.
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>>880916 https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/owner-responsibilities/registration/#state >States that Prohibit Registries of Firearms >Delaware >Florida >Georgia >Idaho >Pennsylvania (long guns only) >Rhode Island >South Dakota >Vermont Anonymous
>>880928 >Judging by the amount of guns that get stolen in these states Got a citation for that?
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>>880863 >This would eliminate 99% of illegal firearms in the US. Prove me wrong. There is no baseline. There is no way of knowing who has what firearms since a majority of the states do not have registries. When states try to implement them, they fail miserably. See the compliance rate for the NY SAFE Act. Also, the people shooting up the ghettoes and the ones who would be mass shooters won't comply.
>>880928 so we've gone from "every single state has one" to "it should be a thing probably"? Is it too much to ask that you actually learn about something you want to ban?
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>Mayor Sam Liccardo says he knows the new rules won't stop mass shootings but he believes safety rules will save lives.
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>>880937 >Is it too much to ask that you actually learn about something you want to ban? Bro they're leftists. It will be a major accomplishment if they can stop calling magazines "clips". I haven't been able to get them to use google in 20 years of arguing.
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>>880863 >Prove me wrong. Okay. I won't comply with this law. How are you going to find out if I have a gun or not without search warrants for no reason across the country?
Checkmate atheists.
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>>880918 >200k guns stolen in a decade Maybe they should have a register, it might solve this issue
>>880930 That sounds about right. But honestly I couldn't care less about a federal registry, I just want people to be able to hold onto there guns. The guns used in gun violence here are not being shipped in from anywhere, they have to be coming from somewhere in the nation. Most of the time they are stolen. I'd like to see an end to that.
>>880934 https://www.txgunsense.org/articles/texas-gun-violence-facts >200k in ten years in Texas alone And this is without a majority of guns being registered. These are just the reported cases.
>>880937 >majority of states Try 8
And yes, it should be a thing.
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>>880948 >www.txgunsense.org First NPR, now this. Are you just doubling down on stupid biased links? Fuck off.
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>>880948 >>200 k guns stolen in a decade>Maybe they should have a register, it might solve this issue Care to show us what 10 year theft rates look like from states with registries?
I'm sure Illinois, New York, and California, for example have almost no firearms thefts over those same ten years. LOL.
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>>880948 >200k I think people would notice if 1/4 of all guns in Texas had been stolen.
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>8 Eight prohibit registries from being made. Other states, like Texas, just don't have one.
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>>880952 What exactly is wrong with NPR?
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>>880961 Over ten years, yes they have. Sorry it is a shit state bro.
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>>880963 Also, why are posting data who's sources are all behind paywalls? As in, will not even tell you the name of the source without making you pay first? Sounds like a great way to hide bogus data.
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>>880963 >1158 in 2020 >200k in 10 years Doesn't really add up. I would also like to see it broken down by things like population, amount of guns, and other crime rates, especially theft. Its also strange that despite having fewer people and having more lost/stolen guns (thus a higher stolen gun per capita), Texas' gun homicide rate (3.2 per 100K) is similar to California's (3.4 per 100k).
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>>880981 >I would also like to see it broken down by things like population, amount of guns, and other crime rates, especially theft. You're not going to, they're posting bogus data. The sources and methodology are hidden behind a paywall.
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>>880981 Those are from gun dealers, your reading comprehension is fantastic.
If America only had 10k guns go missing for the whole nation for a year there would not be a gun violence issue.
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>>880948 List all the states that have a registration, even just for handguns. It's not a majority. A registry has no benefit aside from being a first step towards confiscation. I live in a shit state with a registry. The state has no idea where my firearms are or if I'm still in possession of them. There's no way to enforce it. Random inspections would be unconstitutional.
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>>881016 Nothing on the chart mentions dealers
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>>881267 >muh slippery slope Heeelllloooo, Gun Manufacturer Cartel mouthpiece!
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>>881312 We've already seen it happen in other countries. It's not a fallacy to put two and two together.
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>>879949 Yeah because neolibs think that adding a fee/license to every problem will solve it while they chill in their safe suburbs.
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>>881315 It worked for cigarettes and gambling.
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>>881316 No it didn't. That was solved by a culture shift and shaming people.
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>>881318 >culture shift and shaming people That totally isn't happening right now.
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>>880937 >w-we can't do nuthin' - it's too late! Ahhhh yes, the eternal GOP mantra!
>we pretended global warming was fake - and now it's too late! >we pretended covid was fake - and now it's too late, let them die! > we pretended the inner city crime issues were genetics w/o evidence - and now it's too late! >we pretended trickle down works - but now it's too late! >we pretended Horatio Algier bootstraps were real - but now it's too late! >we pretended firearm violence wasn't an issue and allowed everyone from a day old fertilised embryo to serial killers to own arsenals - too late we can't do anything! Anonymous
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>>881312 >Heeelllloooo, Gun Manufacturer Cartel mouthpiece! Why did Canada get rid of their registry is registries supposedly work so well
>>881319 >That totally isn't happening right now. More gun owners than ever, more gun sales and background checks than ever, more states allow constitutional carry than ever, etc. You're right that it is, but it's the anti-gunners that already lost and don't know it.
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>>881320 >we pretended firearm violence wasn't an issue and allowed everyone from a day old fertilised embryo to serial killers to own arsenals - too late we can't do anything! Canadians should be range banned.
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>>881324 >Canadians should be range banned. Their government will take care of the issue when they start arresting people for browsing extremist websites. They'll think it's a good idea, even as they're being dragged away in cuffs, like an indigenous child.
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>>881327 They're the worst posters on any online forum with their superiority complex, snide comments, and low quality trolling.
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>>881312 California requires a registry and now they're confiscating guns from people for being racist on facebook, and everytime I bring this subject up you leftist faggots get oddly quiet hoping the thread dies because you have no argument to defend that.
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>>880903 That's literally what I said, lol! How does it feel to self own yourself so badly? The Gun Cartel and gullible gimp simps who donated to their oh so pure advocacy lobbyists had emptied the treasury for their personal use so only had $400,000 left of the sucker's fund to use in VA!
Let me guess: You donated to Bannon's "Fund the Wall Campaign" where he stole $25 million and was pardoned by Dear Leader! Let me guess: You made a 1 time donation to Trumpty Dumpty's Pac that turned into a monthly deduction! Ffs, I wish I lacked the ethics and morals to grift their braindead Neanderthal base like everyone else seems to.
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>>881350 >schizo posting this poorly How's that new constitutional carry law working out for your state anon, are the niggers scared shitless yet? Lmao
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>>881350 >Only time NRA was outspent was 2018 >Provides source that shows Bloomberg outspending NRA in 2019 >Source literally says mike-bloombergs-gun-control-outspends-nra-helps-democrats-win-virginia >That's literally what I said, lol! What?
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>>881364 He's too retarded to understand his own argument, let alone yours.
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>>881350 Same script, Nigel. When has anyone here ever said they've donated to the NRA? They're still rent free in your head while other organizations actually get policy changed.
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>>881364 He continues to bring up the same point that during one election, the NRA was outspent in Virginia. He thinks it's relevant for some reason so he posts it in every gun thread. I'm surprised we haven't seen the USA Today gun violence per Capita link at this point.
