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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2024 19:16:27 No.2790836 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2795707 >>2799070 >>2799234

Finally, a non cucked map for 2025 that takes into account:
-natural beauty
-weather
-ease of access
-activities other than mountaineering (fishing, hunting, birdwatching, canoeing, relaxing, hiking)
-cost of going /out/
-peace and quiet factor
-safety from crime and wildlife
-flora and fauna biodiversity

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Dec 2024 22:06:49 No.2795206 Report

Quoted By:

>>2794731
Peninsula fag or south central?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2024 13:58:55 No.2795704 Report

Quoted By:

>>2790888
It's almost as if you scored it backwards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2024 14:03:47 No.2795707 Report

Quoted By:

>>2790836
More like a map for people that hate mountains and nice views

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2024 14:10:02 No.2795709 Report

Quoted By: >>2795710

How is Jersey a 1??? Genuine question. Did any person that scored this map ever even visit or live there? I live here and no lie it's a bit of a shit hole at times but that doesn't mean there aren't cool, beautiful, or fun spots. A 1 is a slap in the face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2024 14:14:09 No.2795710 Report

Quoted By: >>2797413 >>2799073

>>2795709
A 1 is a bit extreme, New Jersey has pine barrens and coastline surely that counts for something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2024 19:59:38 No.2797413 Report

Quoted By: >>2799073

>>2795710
Generous 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2024 20:04:30 No.2797417 Report

Quoted By:

>>2794754
It was bait, yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 12:07:48 No.2799070 Report

Quoted By:

>>2790836
This is so, so retarded and made by someone who has never been outside

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 12:16:49 No.2799071 Report

Quoted By: >>2799115

>>2794807
for me, it is 60,61,62,66,67,68,69,70,71,36,37,38,39, the best eco regions

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 12:19:48 No.2799072 Report

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>>2794807
84 severely underrated

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 12:20:48 No.2799073 Report

Quoted By: >>2799106 >>2799116

>>2795710
>>2797413
and vast mount ranges in the northwest and central part of the state. youre never more than 5 minutes from wilderness or mountains even in the "city"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 16:19:42 No.2799106 Report

Quoted By: >>2799132 >>2799136

>>2799073
The only two wilderness areas in NJ are in the great swamp and the Forsythe wildlife refuges, the latter being a coastal marsh and not walkable. Not exactly 5 minutes from anywhere in the statem 1000ft hills are also hardly mountains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 16:44:40 No.2799115 Report

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>>2799071
lol. of course it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 16:45:41 No.2799116 Report

Quoted By: >>2799134

>>2799073
>vast mount ranges
lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 18:37:27 No.2799132 Report

Quoted By: >>2799152

>>2799106
this is blatantly untrue and something only an idiot would say

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 18:38:29 No.2799134 Report

Quoted By: >>2799135

>>2799116
compared to other similar landmasses/peninsulas on this continent(long island,flordia, and the delmarva)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 18:40:09 No.2799135 Report

Quoted By: >>2799137

>>2799134
>copes with backpedaling
I dont think you know what the word "vast" means

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 18:42:07 No.2799136 Report

Quoted By: >>2799152

>>2799106
wharton state forest, bass river, watchung mountains, alpine, the entirety of land bordering pa from blairstown up into high point state park,the mountain ranges and lakes north of hopatcong and rockaway, etc etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 18:43:17 No.2799137 Report

Quoted By: >>2799144

>>2799135
i dont think you're a student of geography or history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 19:27:08 No.2799144 Report

Quoted By: >>2799146

>>2799137
>more falsehoods
I dont think you are very smart

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 19:28:17 No.2799146 Report

Quoted By: >>2799157

>>2799144
keep coping, you're clearly lying . this isnt a dick measuring contest

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:27:18 No.2799152 Report

Quoted By: >>2799154

>>2799132
>>2799136
Those two spots i mentioned are the only federally (or state) designated wilderness. Just because it's a park or forest doesn't make it wilderness. None of those other places mentioned are wilderness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:29:36 No.2799154 Report

Quoted By: >>2799160

>>2799152
meaningless statment from an autistic. make sure to focus on artificial definitions made by bureaucrats instead of what is actually real.all of those places mentioned are wilderness, this line of argument shows how unserIous and petty you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:31:36 No.2799157 Report

Quoted By: >>2799158

>>2799146
You would have to have a dick for it to be a contest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:32:05 No.2799158 Report

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>>2799157
childish statement

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:39:18 No.2799160 Report

Quoted By: >>2799161

>>2799154
The wilderness act of 1964 was written by Howard zahniser, an environmental activist, not a politician or bureaucrat. Only those two places i mentioned are designated wilderness under the act becausee only those two places are free from human development. Those other state forests and parks all have roads and inholdings and development. Not wilderness

If you don't like that definition, how about the one by Aldo Leopold, a true outdorsman and father of wilderness preservation
>By “wilderness” I mean a continuous stretch of country preserved in its natural state, open to lawful hunting and fishing, big enough to absorb a two weeks' pack trip, and kept devoid of roads, artificial trails, cottages, or other works of man.
No area in new jersey can absorb a 2 week trip. I bet you can't even go 2 days n NJ without having to cross a road.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:41:59 No.2799161 Report

Quoted By: >>2799163 >>2799181

>>2799160
you can look at a map and see that isnt the case for those places you mentioned and that the places i mentioned far better fit the actual criteria
>No area in new jersey can absorb a 2 week trip
thats due to the size of nj itself not the Size of the wilderness. your desire to win an argument has made you lose your bearing on reality and logic. there is no ego here and no consequences for learning/changing your mind.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:49:43 No.2799163 Report

Quoted By: >>2799165 >>2799166

>>2799161
Ok let's look at those places on a map.

Oh no! Look at all those roads!
Even on the AT you can't go more than 2 or 3 miles before you hit another road

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:50:10 No.2799164 Report

Quoted By:

>>2790915
WV rated low for “coal mining scars”

I refuse to believe this isn’t bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:51:05 No.2799165 Report

Quoted By: >>2799169 >>2799171

>>2799163
look at the places you mentioned first which is the point of contention for you entIre line of thinking.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:53:50 No.2799166 Report

Quoted By: >>2799167 >>2799169 >>2799170

>>2799163
How about in Wharton state forest?

Ah! Nothing but roads! Ever half mile even. How can it be wilderness if you can hear engines and smell oil?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:54:08 No.2799167 Report

Quoted By: >>2799172

>>2799166
those are trails

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:55:09 No.2799169 Report

Quoted By:

>>2799166
answer the challenge>>2799165
king of being disengenious.

also use a satelite map you caveman

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:56:41 No.2799170 Report

Quoted By:

>>2799166
if you had ever been there you would know those are a mix of access trials for the fighting wildfires and old indian trials from when the pinelands was once populated

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:56:47 No.2799171 Report

Quoted By: >>2799173

>>2799165
Ok we'll have a look at forsyth

By golly! No roads! Just a lot of preserved salt marsh and islands

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:57:53 No.2799172 Report

Quoted By: >>2799174

>>2799167
Trails only open to non motorized traffic on this map app are in orange, those double white dashes represent dirt or 4x4 roads

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:03:00 No.2799173 Report

Quoted By: >>2799176

>>2799171
there are no roads ,because that land is unsuitable for road construction. also incredibly small . there are larger sectIon of land in wharton and bass river that include "no roads" it just matters where you draw the line.
thank you for giving me insight into the mind of someone who has already made up their mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:04:11 No.2799174 Report

Quoted By: >>2799177

>>2799172
if you lived here you would know that the only difference is the width and that they are of the same material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:07:33 No.2799176 Report

Quoted By: >>2799179

>>2799173
That's the point. That area is wilderness because there were never human developments there. It retains the original primitive character. All those other places with criss crossing roads and long effects of human development have lost their wilderness character. That doesn't mean they aren't fun places to be in, or cant regain some character through proper management. But they aren't wilderness.

And the wilderness parts of the bass river are part of the forsythe refuge

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:09:30 No.2799177 Report

Quoted By: >>2799180

>>2799174
They are permanent installations that denigrate wilderness character. Wilderness has no trails or just enough to minimize impact of use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:11:08 No.2799179 Report

Quoted By: >>2799186

>>2799176
there was never human development there because its useless land. the "roads" in wharton which are compleltey the same as the trails were made to keep the damn thing from burning down. if you werent autistic you would how histrionic and arbitrary this distinctIon is. please tell me how this effects the /out/ abiliTy of nj in any way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:12:30 No.2799180 Report

Quoted By: >>2799186

>>2799177
wIthout those trails the forest would cease to exist and yes they are extremely minimal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:13:13 No.2799181 Report

Quoted By: >>2799184 >>2799185

>>2799161
New Hampshire is only a little bigger than NJ and the white mountains could absorb 2 weeks easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:15:54 No.2799184 Report

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>>2799181
why would anyone go to new hampshire? the beauty of nj is you have access to almost every biome whilst also being in arms reach of the only place in the country that matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:17:22 No.2799185 Report

Quoted By: >>2799188

>>2799181
I think you should reread the criteria for the scoring on the map. accessibility is a plus not a negative

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:18:46 No.2799186 Report

Quoted By: >>2799187

>>2799179
>>2799180
>we have to have roads because the forest wouldn't exist without them
So it's not even a natural forest? Basically a garden? How is that wilderness?

I never said anything about the /out/ ability in NJ. I love coastal pine forests and swamps. I think it's important to use the word wilderness sparingly and only for things that qualify because it is such a precious and limited commodity. By the definition you seem to find acceptable, half the country is wilderness, and there is no way to separate places with unspoiled and intact ecosystems from fallow exploited land.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:20:05 No.2799187 Report

Quoted By: >>2799191

>>2799186
>So it's not even a natural forest? Basically a garden? How is that wilderness?
its about conservation which nj has preserved despite beIng the densest state which is its beauty

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:20:18 No.2799188 Report

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>>2799185
Idc about the map, that was only to reply to the point about NJ limited by it's size, it's not, it's limited by it's development

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:22:43 No.2799191 Report

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>>2799187
I appreciate conservation and managed forests. They just aren't wilderness is all. A manicured garden is not wilderness. An area left to its own devices is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2025 04:27:58 No.2799234 Report

Quoted By:

>>2790836
>missouri 10
>tn 4

kek whoever made this blatantly has never been to East TN with one of the most beautiful mountain ranges in the entire world.

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