>>228591off road vehicles are just as much /out/ as any of the other gear whore threads on here.
btw, polite shitposting is still shitposting. keep on topic or hide the tread and move on.
pic related. when it's 115f, I'll take a truck over the 15 mile hike with virtually no shaded rests spots until you reach the river. inb4 take a canoe. you have top pay to park and it's about the same amount of driving to get to the launch. driving up a dry wash isn't hurting anything.